The pussification of America has reached the Express Checkout Lane

[Safeway]

Express Lane thread turned into grammar thread.

One thing I don't understand is how grammar can be hard for some people. My guess is that it is hard because either 1) they were raised in a household that used poor grammar frequently and did not value proper grammar, or 2) they did not pay attention in class and fell behind. I'd reckon the main reason for low grammatical aptitude is environmental for most people.

 

[Brainonska511]

Originally posted by: Sea Moose

Originally posted by: Stumps
yeah it's happening here in Australia too.

Nothin like standing in line at an Express checkout while some retard unloads 2 trolleys worth of groceries.

they also have the automatic lanes where your supposed to scan your items and pay your money by card. <--- i refuse to use these cause people loose their jobs for this crap.


Qld pwed Nsw stumps

I refuse to use those automatic machines because they suck. Even a mediocre cashier can check you out faster than one of those.

 

[lxskllr]

Originally posted by: Brainonska511


I refuse to use those automatic machines because they suck. Even a mediocre cashier can check you out faster than one of those.

I like them when they work properly, but it seems like I always get a UPC that wasn't scanned into the system.

 

[Arcadio]

This is the stupidest idea I've seen in a long time. I'm sure it's been said, but "About 15" could be 16. If 16 is ok, 17 is ok too. If 17 is ok, then surely 18 is ok too.... etc.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: lizardboy
Was in Kroger tonight (grocery store), they're remodeling and were in the middle of putting up the new signs. Couldn't believe it when I saw that they had changed "15 items or less" to "about 15 items"...what a joke.

http://imgur.com/O5aOc.jpg

which kroger is that?

 

[Gibson486]

Originally posted by: lxskllr

Originally posted by: Brainonska511


I refuse to use those automatic machines because they suck. Even a mediocre cashier can check you out faster than one of those.

I like them when they work properly, but it seems like I always get a UPC that wasn't scanned into the system.

thing i hate is when it disputes you bought an item because a small weight issue.

 

[CZroe]

Originally posted by: Aikouka
I won't go to a "X items or less" lane if I am over said amount (even by one item), but I also have no qualms if I go into the lane with X items as I am in the bounds of the lane's restrictions. I do typically allow people with an extremely small amount of items to get ahead of me. X can vary greatly depending on the store... Wal-Mart is 20 items and another local grocer (Price Chopper) is 8 items.

Now, some may not prefer going into said lines with more than 5 items, but frankly if I'm at Wal-Mart with 15 items in my car, I am not going to sit behind someone with an entire cart full in a regular line just because you think it's too much . Although I do try to expedite my check out with entering my debit information before everything is done so it's a simple button press for the cashier at the end and only a quick authorization until I get my receipt and I am out of there.

I'm the one that pointed out the "who and how much it's really intended for" thing and yet even I wouldn't avoid it if I were at the limit even if the primary target is the 1-to-5 item customer. Why? Because it was set to 15 for additional reasons... to balance keeping the lane filled AND to keep it moving steadily. I'd be helping with the other goal, even if it isn't the primary one.

 

[CZroe]

Originally posted by: Brainonska511

Originally posted by: Sea Moose

Originally posted by: Stumps
yeah it's happening here in Australia too.

Nothin like standing in line at an Express checkout while some retard unloads 2 trolleys worth of groceries.

they also have the automatic lanes where your supposed to scan your items and pay your money by card. <--- i refuse to use these cause people loose their jobs for this crap.


Qld pwed Nsw stumps

I refuse to use those automatic machines because they suck. Even a mediocre cashier can check you out faster than one of those.

Once again... there's hardly anything "automatic" about them. They are obviously MORE tedious than a normal register (with training), which they'd never let you near.

 

[lxskllr]

Originally posted by: Gibson486


thing i hate is when it disputes you bought an item because a small weight issue.

I avoid that altogether. If I have items that need to be weighed, I go to a manned register. The technology's cool, but I think it's too immature for use by "normal" people. If I have anything that looks like it strays from dead easy, I take it to a real person.

 

[CZroe]

Originally posted by: Gibson486

Originally posted by: lxskllr

Originally posted by: Brainonska511


I refuse to use those automatic machines because they suck. Even a mediocre cashier can check you out faster than one of those.

I like them when they work properly, but it seems like I always get a UPC that wasn't scanned into the system.

thing i hate is when it disputes you bought an item because a small weight issue.

I hate when you try to cancel something and they expect you to wait for an attendant, especially when you were just checking the price (there should be an option for that). When possible, I usually just take my items to another and leave it like that.

Originally posted by: lxskllr

Originally posted by: Gibson486


thing i hate is when it disputes you bought an item because a small weight issue.

I avoid that altogether. If I have items that need to be weighed, I go to a manned register. The technology's cool, but I think it's too immature for use by "normal" people. If I have anything that looks like it strays from dead easy, I take it to a real person.

It isn't that they need to be weighed like produce sold by the pound, it's that it is trying to make sure that your bags weigh the proper amount for what you paid to prevent fraud (UPC fraud) or theft (bagging additional items). They keep a database of the size and weight of each item. "Look up" items are the ones that are likely too heavy or large to hoist on to the machine (55lb dog food, dog houses, bicycle, etc). For those, it will allow you to leave them in the cart. It's all a database thing.

 

[lxskllr]

Originally posted by: CZroe

It isn't that they need to be weighed like produce sold by the pound, it's that it is trying to make sure that your bags weigh the proper amount for what you paid to prevent fraud (UPC fraud) or theft (bagging additional items). They keep a database of the size and weight of each item. "Look up" items are the ones that are likely too heavy or large to hoist on to the machine (55lb dog food, dog houses, bicycle, etc). For those, it will allow you to leave them in the cart. It's all a database thing.

If I understand what you're saying, I don't think the store I typically go to works like that. Once you scan an item, and put it somewhere near the bags, it's finished with you. I typically scan all of my items, and put them to the side for future bagging. If I have a bunch of stuff, I even use the floor. I don't think it weighs the bags when I'm finished.

 

[NissanGurl]

Originally posted by: Sea Moose

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Sea Moose
they set the line at 15 items

now people will try on 20 items.... eventually they will do away with the speed lane althogether


and then the four horse men of the apocalypse will around and dixycrat will ascend to heaven and the rest of us will burn.

The Flying Spaghetti Monster will come down and save those of us who have touched by his noodly appendage. The rest of you are fucked.

fuck

hehe...noodly

 

[mchammer]

Originally posted by: loki8481
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[hanoverphist]

Originally posted by: Stumps
yeah it's happening here in Australia too.

Nothin like standing in line at an Express checkout while some retard unloads 2 trolleys worth of groceries.

one time i had about a half basket of groceries and i was in line from hell. the 15 items line was empty and the cashier said "come on over, no big deal". right as i put the first couple items on the belt some lady with a bottle of cheap booze and a couple other items walks up and says "oh, great. cant count huh?" i looked at the cashier, who told the lady that she said it was ok since there was no one in line. she still bitched about it until i finally told her if she was in that big of a hurry she could go ahead of me. she did. cashier was apologizing the whole time.

 

[OCGuy]

What if I have 15.999..... items?

 

[hanoverphist]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
The pussification is allowing checks which take an hour for the person to write. Screw that, cash or credit or gtho!

i think im gonna dust off my check book and go shopping, hoping youre behind me in line.

 

[lizardboy]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
How is this pussification?

I'll use small words...

"15 items or less" is a declaritive statement. It is very specific. It is meant for those who only need to scan a few items and go. This is the reason for an express lane. Grab and go. If you see someone who is in the line just because it's moving faster and they have way too many items to be there you can badger them back to the regular grocery line so they don't hold everyone up.

The word 'about' is wishy-washy. It takes all the power away from the people who are following the rules. It invites cheaters. It says 'yeah, we would appreciate it if you kept your items to a minimum but if you insist on cashing out here because this line is moving faster than the others then I guess we'll let you do it even though you're technically violating the spirit of the express lane... and we're too pussified to say anything.'

this

 

[hanoverphist]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Sea Moose
they set the line at 15 items

now people will try on 20 items.... eventually they will do away with the speed lane althogether


and then the four horse men of the apocalypse will around and dixycrat will ascend to heaven and the rest of us will burn.

The Flying Spaghetti Monster will come down and save those of us who have touched his noodly appendage. The rest of you are fucked.

ill not go there

 

[hanoverphist]

Originally posted by: CZroe

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: dougp
I use self-checkout lanes whether I have 50 items or 10. Why, you might ask?

Because I'm faster at that checkout lane than most people - I can plow through the 50 items and pay before others do their 10. I hate using any lane that has someone doing the checkouts - cashiers are no longer courteous, and baggers can't efficiently bag. I mean seriously, do I need 5 bags for 5 items that would all fit into 1 or 2 bags?

I generally do unless I have over 1/2 cart full. Also, just so people don't get riled up about this post, many self checkout lanes at Kroger stores have "Any size order" for the limit.

Yeah, self checkout != express lane... it's just that it allows them to keep more lanes open so it has displaced a lot of express lanes, especially in converted supermarkets. If it isn't Wal-Mart, there should be enough for everyone.

Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
What pisses me off is people who go to [express] lanes with a cart full, or when someone goes in there with a status card (lot of paper work and crap to do which delays). ARG. I just want to pay for me 2 items and get out. i've always thought they should make it so you can't bring a cart in those lanes. Now there are times where you have 3 big items so it would be kind of inconvinient for that, I guess. (walmart and stuff, not so much grocery stores)

Most grocery stores still sell 50lb bags of dog food (55lb "bonus bags") and 24-48 multi-packs of bottled water, but I still like the "no cart" idea.

lol i waited in a regular line behind 8 people in a frys one time with a 44lb dog food bag on my shoulder and a case of water under my other arm. they had the express and all the self check lanes closed and still didnt open a second register to help out. only time i get a basket is when i do the weekly shop for groceries. if i can carry it all ill do that. sometimes i do that on purpose to keep myself from snack shopping.

 

[Chiropteran]

A no-cart line would make so much more sense. I usuaully just assume I'm under the 15 item limit because I never get more than what will fit in a basket, but it's kind of silly how arbitrary the limit is when you can't get 16 identical single-serving containers of yogurt (which takes the cashier 2 seconds to price and bag) but you can get 15 different boxes of cereal or cases of water or wine or whatever else that will fill up 7 or more bags and take a relatively long time for the cashier to handle.

So, I propose the sign be changed to NO CARTS, SINGLE BASKET ONLY. It would solve almost all the problems. Also, no checks, but that should be a given.

The reason for the change is probably because of snooty customers getting pissed off that the cashier let someone through with 16 items. Give it a rest. Once the cashier has already started ringing up items it's not going to save any time at all to have them stop and send the person to a new lane because they were over the limit.

 

[lxskllr]

Originally posted by: Chiropteran
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So, I propose the sign be changed to NO CARTS, SINGLE BASKET ONLY. It would solve almost all the problems. Also, no checks, but that should be a given.

That's a reasonable solution, and works best for the intended purpose.

 

[TallBill]

I still like using the justification that multiples of one item only count as a single item. So if I have 2 gallons of milk, 18 cans of tuna, and 3 jars of peanut butter, that only counts as three items

 

[HendrixFan]

Originally posted by: Scouzer

Originally posted by: Sea Moose

Originally posted by: Stumps
yeah it's happening here in Australia too.

Nothin like standing in line at an Express checkout while some retard unloads 2 trolleys worth of groceries.

they also have the automatic lanes where your supposed to scan your items and pay your money by card. <--- i refuse to use these cause people loose their jobs for this crap.


Qld pwed Nsw stumps

I LOVE Self Checkout lanes! Best invention in retail EVER! I am infinitely more likely to shop at a store with self checkout lanes over one without. So much faster!

You may be much faster at the self checkout, but that is a rarity. At the grocery store I work at, we have 4 self checkout lanes with one person assigned to monitor it. The number of items per minute and customers per hour for all four lanes (with one employee) is considerably lower than what one employee could do at an express checkout lane. Then when you consider the higher initial cost, the fact that they need more maintenance since it uses more machinery, and require more expensive labor from the cash controllers to refill and verify the money; it is a losing proposition. Maybe at home depot or the like it is more cost effective, but at a grocery store its a drain.

 

[hanoverphist]

Originally posted by: TallBill
I still like using the justification that multiples of one item only count as a single item. So if I have 2 gallons of milk, 18 cans of tuna, and 3 jars of peanut butter, that only counts as three items

thats only if they are connected together. like a 6 pack of soda or a twin pack of ketchup. still takes time to bag the shit, and bagging 23 items takes much longer than 3 items.

 

[beat mania]

Originally posted by: mar23
One thing I hate about self check out is I just finish paying and while im bagging my stuff some fool starts sending their stuff down. Can you not wait 1 min so I can bag my stuff and leave?

No.