Originally posted by: AdamK47 3DS
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Platypus
Is it really as bad as everyone is making it out to be?
Yes, hasn't been the same since 02 and most of the good, older members are long gone.
Remember AT was born when PC's were still up and coming in power and experimentation to get them stable.
Now PC's have more power than the Apps can possibly use and stable to the point of Government/Microsoft Intel/AMD looking to take them over.
In other words they control every aspect of YOUR machine. It no longer would belong to you. The PC actually belongs to the Government/Microsoft Intel/AMD platform called "Trusted Computing Alliance".
Between that and the Government/Corporations (see Internet Nuetrality) looking to completely take over the Internet to control the flow of the Internet and Information, the Internet is on the edge of becoming extinct in the U.S. as we once knew it.
Yes, that means AT also on the edge of becoming extinct as well.
Enjoy
The government should use all of that unused power for running distributed clients. If only there was a person that could help out with all the installations.
Originally posted by: athithi
Originally posted by: BD2003
Originally posted by: athithi
It happens with virtually every discussion forum. The forums simply reflect the changes happening around the world. Social interaction in general has become more insecure, mean-spirited, distrustful, petty and risque because of the major events that took place in the last 6-7 years. Of course, it will come around a full circle as it always has and things will get better in the future. But older forums generally don't reverse the trend, so I would really look to newer forums where the cycle can begin all over again.
Eh, thats BS. Its just because of all the new people that came here.
Not really, some of the old timers are just as guilty of dragging down the level of interaction - if anything, they often lead the way. Not only the old timers, but even the Moderators have become more acerbic in their comments - I am sure they feel justified and they probably are, but it definitely does not contribute toward a more friendly forum. They may carry a big stick, but they sure as heck don't speak softly. Anyway, I gave my opinion and now I'll just sit back and listen until the discussion starts going downhill
Originally posted by: BD2003
Originally posted by: athithi
Originally posted by: BD2003
Originally posted by: athithi
It happens with virtually every discussion forum. The forums simply reflect the changes happening around the world. Social interaction in general has become more insecure, mean-spirited, distrustful, petty and risque because of the major events that took place in the last 6-7 years. Of course, it will come around a full circle as it always has and things will get better in the future. But older forums generally don't reverse the trend, so I would really look to newer forums where the cycle can begin all over again.
Eh, thats BS. Its just because of all the new people that came here.
Not really, some of the old timers are just as guilty of dragging down the level of interaction - if anything, they often lead the way. Not only the old timers, but even the Moderators have become more acerbic in their comments - I am sure they feel justified and they probably are, but it definitely does not contribute toward a more friendly forum. They may carry a big stick, but they sure as heck don't speak softly. Anyway, I gave my opinion and now I'll just sit back and listen until the discussion starts going downhill
All I'm saying is that it has nothing to do with world events of the past 6-7 years, leading to a change in tone of people. I don't know the numbers, but the AT population has probably increased tenfold since then - just more pricks to go around nowadays, plain and simple. Its got nothing to do with the average person's attitude, theres just more pollutants in the air, and like CFCs, once the douches get let loose, they never go away. Since theres so many more people now, a certain amount of douching is tolerated becuase otherwise the mods would be busy banning people all day long.
Originally posted by: BD2003
Originally posted by: athithi
Originally posted by: BD2003
Originally posted by: athithi
It happens with virtually every discussion forum. The forums simply reflect the changes happening around the world. Social interaction in general has become more insecure, mean-spirited, distrustful, petty and risque because of the major events that took place in the last 6-7 years. Of course, it will come around a full circle as it always has and things will get better in the future. But older forums generally don't reverse the trend, so I would really look to newer forums where the cycle can begin all over again.
Eh, thats BS. Its just because of all the new people that came here.
Not really, some of the old timers are just as guilty of dragging down the level of interaction - if anything, they often lead the way. Not only the old timers, but even the Moderators have become more acerbic in their comments - I am sure they feel justified and they probably are, but it definitely does not contribute toward a more friendly forum. They may carry a big stick, but they sure as heck don't speak softly. Anyway, I gave my opinion and now I'll just sit back and listen until the discussion starts going downhill
All I'm saying is that it has nothing to do with world events of the past 6-7 years, leading to a change in tone of people. I don't know the numbers, but the AT population has probably increased tenfold since then - just more pricks to go around nowadays, plain and simple. Its got nothing to do with the average person's attitude, theres just more pollutants in the air, and like CFCs, once the douches get let loose, they never go away. Since theres so many more people now, a certain amount of douching is tolerated becuase otherwise the mods would be busy banning people all day long.
Originally posted by: fisher
Originally posted by: BD2003
Originally posted by: athithi
Originally posted by: BD2003
Originally posted by: athithi
It happens with virtually every discussion forum. The forums simply reflect the changes happening around the world. Social interaction in general has become more insecure, mean-spirited, distrustful, petty and risque because of the major events that took place in the last 6-7 years. Of course, it will come around a full circle as it always has and things will get better in the future. But older forums generally don't reverse the trend, so I would really look to newer forums where the cycle can begin all over again.
Eh, thats BS. Its just because of all the new people that came here.
Not really, some of the old timers are just as guilty of dragging down the level of interaction - if anything, they often lead the way. Not only the old timers, but even the Moderators have become more acerbic in their comments - I am sure they feel justified and they probably are, but it definitely does not contribute toward a more friendly forum. They may carry a big stick, but they sure as heck don't speak softly. Anyway, I gave my opinion and now I'll just sit back and listen until the discussion starts going downhill
All I'm saying is that it has nothing to do with world events of the past 6-7 years, leading to a change in tone of people. I don't know the numbers, but the AT population has probably increased tenfold since then - just more pricks to go around nowadays, plain and simple. Its got nothing to do with the average person's attitude, theres just more pollutants in the air, and like CFCs, once the douches get let loose, they never go away. Since theres so many more people now, a certain amount of douching is tolerated becuase otherwise the mods would be busy banning people all day long.
you have less people here for the main topic of discussing computers (the original intention of the site) and more here to ask why sally sue thompson doesn't like guys who wear makeup and listen to emo. that would be a good place to start looking for reasons for the decline in convo here.
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: BD2003
Originally posted by: athithi
Originally posted by: BD2003
Originally posted by: athithi
It happens with virtually every discussion forum. The forums simply reflect the changes happening around the world. Social interaction in general has become more insecure, mean-spirited, distrustful, petty and risque because of the major events that took place in the last 6-7 years. Of course, it will come around a full circle as it always has and things will get better in the future. But older forums generally don't reverse the trend, so I would really look to newer forums where the cycle can begin all over again.
Eh, thats BS. Its just because of all the new people that came here.
Not really, some of the old timers are just as guilty of dragging down the level of interaction - if anything, they often lead the way. Not only the old timers, but even the Moderators have become more acerbic in their comments - I am sure they feel justified and they probably are, but it definitely does not contribute toward a more friendly forum. They may carry a big stick, but they sure as heck don't speak softly. Anyway, I gave my opinion and now I'll just sit back and listen until the discussion starts going downhill
All I'm saying is that it has nothing to do with world events of the past 6-7 years, leading to a change in tone of people. I don't know the numbers, but the AT population has probably increased tenfold since then - just more pricks to go around nowadays, plain and simple. Its got nothing to do with the average person's attitude, theres just more pollutants in the air, and like CFCs, once the douches get let loose, they never go away. Since theres so many more people now, a certain amount of douching is tolerated becuase otherwise the mods would be busy banning people all day long.
i don't think thats it because its always the same people who are being the pricks and assholes.
Originally posted by: BD2003
Originally posted by: fisher
Originally posted by: BD2003
Originally posted by: athithi
Originally posted by: BD2003
Originally posted by: athithi
It happens with virtually every discussion forum. The forums simply reflect the changes happening around the world. Social interaction in general has become more insecure, mean-spirited, distrustful, petty and risque because of the major events that took place in the last 6-7 years. Of course, it will come around a full circle as it always has and things will get better in the future. But older forums generally don't reverse the trend, so I would really look to newer forums where the cycle can begin all over again.
Eh, thats BS. Its just because of all the new people that came here.
Not really, some of the old timers are just as guilty of dragging down the level of interaction - if anything, they often lead the way. Not only the old timers, but even the Moderators have become more acerbic in their comments - I am sure they feel justified and they probably are, but it definitely does not contribute toward a more friendly forum. They may carry a big stick, but they sure as heck don't speak softly. Anyway, I gave my opinion and now I'll just sit back and listen until the discussion starts going downhill
All I'm saying is that it has nothing to do with world events of the past 6-7 years, leading to a change in tone of people. I don't know the numbers, but the AT population has probably increased tenfold since then - just more pricks to go around nowadays, plain and simple. Its got nothing to do with the average person's attitude, theres just more pollutants in the air, and like CFCs, once the douches get let loose, they never go away. Since theres so many more people now, a certain amount of douching is tolerated becuase otherwise the mods would be busy banning people all day long.
you have less people here for the main topic of discussing computers (the original intention of the site) and more here to ask why sally sue thompson doesn't like guys who wear makeup and listen to emo. that would be a good place to start looking for reasons for the decline in convo here.
This is off-topic...what do you expect?
Originally posted by: fisher
Originally posted by: BD2003
Originally posted by: fisher
Originally posted by: BD2003
Originally posted by: athithi
Originally posted by: BD2003
Originally posted by: athithi
It happens with virtually every discussion forum. The forums simply reflect the changes happening around the world. Social interaction in general has become more insecure, mean-spirited, distrustful, petty and risque because of the major events that took place in the last 6-7 years. Of course, it will come around a full circle as it always has and things will get better in the future. But older forums generally don't reverse the trend, so I would really look to newer forums where the cycle can begin all over again.
Eh, thats BS. Its just because of all the new people that came here.
Not really, some of the old timers are just as guilty of dragging down the level of interaction - if anything, they often lead the way. Not only the old timers, but even the Moderators have become more acerbic in their comments - I am sure they feel justified and they probably are, but it definitely does not contribute toward a more friendly forum. They may carry a big stick, but they sure as heck don't speak softly. Anyway, I gave my opinion and now I'll just sit back and listen until the discussion starts going downhill
All I'm saying is that it has nothing to do with world events of the past 6-7 years, leading to a change in tone of people. I don't know the numbers, but the AT population has probably increased tenfold since then - just more pricks to go around nowadays, plain and simple. Its got nothing to do with the average person's attitude, theres just more pollutants in the air, and like CFCs, once the douches get let loose, they never go away. Since theres so many more people now, a certain amount of douching is tolerated becuase otherwise the mods would be busy banning people all day long.
you have less people here for the main topic of discussing computers (the original intention of the site) and more here to ask why sally sue thompson doesn't like guys who wear makeup and listen to emo. that would be a good place to start looking for reasons for the decline in convo here.
This is off-topic...what do you expect?
i expect what we've got now, mostly because the forums cater to it now.
BBSes were founded when PCs were "up and coming", AT's creation represents the early stages of mainstream acceptance of computers, no where close to "old school".Remember AT was born when PC's were still up and coming in power and experimentation to get them stable.
Now PC's have more power than the Apps can possibly use and stable to the point of Government/Microsoft Intel/AMD looking to take them over.
In other words they control every aspect of YOUR machine. It no longer would belong to you. The PC actually belongs to the Government/Microsoft Intel/AMD platform called "Trusted Computing Alliance".
Between that and the Government/Corporations (see Internet Nuetrality) looking to completely take over the Internet to control the flow of the Internet and Information, the Internet is on the edge of becoming extinct in the U.S. as we once knew it.
Yes, that means AT also on the edge of becoming extinct as well.
Enjoy
Originally posted by: SampSon
Threads like this pop up a couple times a year, nothing to see here, move along.
BBSes were founded when PCs were "up and coming", AT's creation represents the early stages of mainstream acceptance of computers, no where close to "old school".Remember AT was born when PC's were still up and coming in power and experimentation to get them stable.
Now PC's have more power than the Apps can possibly use and stable to the point of Government/Microsoft Intel/AMD looking to take them over.
In other words they control every aspect of YOUR machine. It no longer would belong to you. The PC actually belongs to the Government/Microsoft Intel/AMD platform called "Trusted Computing Alliance".
Between that and the Government/Corporations (see Internet Nuetrality) looking to completely take over the Internet to control the flow of the Internet and Information, the Internet is on the edge of becoming extinct in the U.S. as we once knew it.
Yes, that means AT also on the edge of becoming extinct as well.
Enjoy
Do you take off your tinfoil hat when you get a hair cut, or do they just keep it on and give you the classic "bowl" cut?
Originally posted by: fisher
Originally posted by: SampSon
Threads like this pop up a couple times a year, nothing to see here, move along.
BBSes were founded when PCs were "up and coming", AT's creation represents the early stages of mainstream acceptance of computers, no where close to "old school".Remember AT was born when PC's were still up and coming in power and experimentation to get them stable.
Now PC's have more power than the Apps can possibly use and stable to the point of Government/Microsoft Intel/AMD looking to take them over.
In other words they control every aspect of YOUR machine. It no longer would belong to you. The PC actually belongs to the Government/Microsoft Intel/AMD platform called "Trusted Computing Alliance".
Between that and the Government/Corporations (see Internet Nuetrality) looking to completely take over the Internet to control the flow of the Internet and Information, the Internet is on the edge of becoming extinct in the U.S. as we once knew it.
Yes, that means AT also on the edge of becoming extinct as well.
Enjoy
Do you take off your tinfoil hat when you get a hair cut, or do they just keep it on and give you the classic "bowl" cut?
i had to breath deeply twice and tell myself "remember he's just a raving lunatic with no sense left whatsoever" to avoid replying to dave's bait. the idea that AT was born when PCs weren't yet stable is so laughable it sorta hurts to think about.
Originally posted by: fisher
Originally posted by: AdamK47 3DS
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Platypus
Is it really as bad as everyone is making it out to be?
Yes, hasn't been the same since 02 and most of the good, older members are long gone.
Remember AT was born when PC's were still up and coming in power and experimentation to get them stable.
Now PC's have more power than the Apps can possibly use and stable to the point of Government/Microsoft Intel/AMD looking to take them over.
In other words they control every aspect of YOUR machine. It no longer would belong to you. The PC actually belongs to the Government/Microsoft Intel/AMD platform called "Trusted Computing Alliance".
Between that and the Government/Corporations (see Internet Nuetrality) looking to completely take over the Internet to control the flow of the Internet and Information, the Internet is on the edge of becoming extinct in the U.S. as we once knew it.
Yes, that means AT also on the edge of becoming extinct as well.
Enjoy
The government should use all of that unused power for running distributed clients. If only there was a person that could help out with all the installations.
can laughing lead to a heart attack? because if it can i'm suing you dude. hilarious.
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: fisher
Originally posted by: AdamK47 3DS
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Platypus
Is it really as bad as everyone is making it out to be?
Yes, hasn't been the same since 02 and most of the good, older members are long gone.
Remember AT was born when PC's were still up and coming in power and experimentation to get them stable.
Now PC's have more power than the Apps can possibly use and stable to the point of Government/Microsoft Intel/AMD looking to take them over.
In other words they control every aspect of YOUR machine. It no longer would belong to you. The PC actually belongs to the Government/Microsoft Intel/AMD platform called "Trusted Computing Alliance".
Between that and the Government/Corporations (see Internet Nuetrality) looking to completely take over the Internet to control the flow of the Internet and Information, the Internet is on the edge of becoming extinct in the U.S. as we once knew it.
Yes, that means AT also on the edge of becoming extinct as well.
Enjoy
The government should use all of that unused power for running distributed clients. If only there was a person that could help out with all the installations.
can laughing lead to a heart attack? because if it can i'm suing you dude. hilarious.
You think all the PC's the Government is running E-mail, Word, Excel and sit idle for most of the time instead of working on a cure for cancer is funny???
Originally posted by: jagec
ATOT is random and stupid?
HELLO MCFLY!!! THINK!! THINK MCFLY!!!
Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3
Is it really as bad as everyone is making it out to be? I agree that there are plenty of useless posts (not going to single out anyone in the first post but they know who they are). My question is what brought this whole change on? I've been here 3 years (which isn't a long time compared to others), and I don't want to stop posting because I do enjoy it here, but I have also noticed the quality of threads aren't what they used to be.
Thats not to say that there weren't really stupid threads back in 2003. Just not as many. I'm also not saying there aren't any good/entertaining/informative threads anymore either, because there still are.
Mods, though I have a feeling this will get locked, it would be really great if we all could have a discussion about this. I think back to that whole "Change of Culture" thread the mods created, and the backlash of some members resulting in their bans. I guess this is more Forum Issues than OT, but maybe we can figure out why things have been the way they've been lately.
Maybe im in the minority, but I feel that it's not good to lose members who have been here for 5 years (such as Goosemaster). Granted, it's their choice and everything, but something must be amiss.
Alright im probably rambling and not making any sense so I will leave it at that. Hopefully some kind of discussion can be generated in this thread.
Cliffs:
ATOT has changed throughout the years.
Not necessarily for the better.
Discuss.
Originally posted by: jadinolf
Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3
Is it really as bad as everyone is making it out to be? I agree that there are plenty of useless posts (not going to single out anyone in the first post but they know who they are). My question is what brought this whole change on? I've been here 3 years (which isn't a long time compared to others), and I don't want to stop posting because I do enjoy it here, but I have also noticed the quality of threads aren't what they used to be.
Thats not to say that there weren't really stupid threads back in 2003. Just not as many. I'm also not saying there aren't any good/entertaining/informative threads anymore either, because there still are.
Mods, though I have a feeling this will get locked, it would be really great if we all could have a discussion about this. I think back to that whole "Change of Culture" thread the mods created, and the backlash of some members resulting in their bans. I guess this is more Forum Issues than OT, but maybe we can figure out why things have been the way they've been lately.
Maybe im in the minority, but I feel that it's not good to lose members who have been here for 5 years (such as Goosemaster). Granted, it's their choice and everything, but something must be amiss.
Alright im probably rambling and not making any sense so I will leave it at that. Hopefully some kind of discussion can be generated in this thread.
Cliffs:
ATOT has changed throughout the years.
Not necessarily for the better.
Discuss.
You should have been here before the kids came. It was really different.
Originally posted by: meltdown75
Other forums here maintain a lot of good qualities and always will due to their nature.