AMD has been moving production of Kabini and the console APUs to GlobalFoundries- that should free up more TSMC 28nm wafers from their allocation, giving them more to use on GPUs.
No way 999. Amd is and will until 20nm be 28nm capacity constrained. Prices of 290/280 supports that.
AMD has been moving production of Kabini and the console APUs to GlobalFoundries- that should free up more TSMC 28nm wafers from their allocation, giving them more to use on GPUs.
Okey. Good point that will change it all. I forgot that. Do we know when that will have effect?
It might already have had an effect, seeing as they have finally built up enough stock of binned chips to rerelease the 7950 as the r9 280. Unless there was a reason other than lack of binned chips, for the big time gap between 280x and 280 launches
Naa. The 280 series is actually a new chip from a production point of view, made to have far higher fully working gpu per wafer. Its meant to be cheap to produce, meaning there is probably far less binned 280 than 2 years ago with 7950.
Well, here you go:That doesn't matter. What does matter is that 500W needs to be dissipated regardless of what heat goes where, it has to make its way off the board and out of the case. Doing so is going to be noisy with only one 120mm fan and one GPU fan.
So the 295X2 not only runs quietly, it also runs pretty cool. There should even be room to OC the 295x2 with the stock fan. Looks like AMD nailed it. Should be a monster of a card for only 1/2 the price of a Titan Z.AMD delivered a constant 1018MHz GPU clock with no dips in performance. Whether it’s a few minutes or a few hours, you’re getting 1018MHz. I tested this using a 2 hour Furmark stress test as well as an overnight session of Unigine’s Heaven. That clock speed was unwavering. Not only is this extremely reassuring, but in real-world scenarios this dual-card is clocked even higher than a reference 290x. That should give you an idea where our benchmarks are headed.
1: A Radeon 295X2 is slightly quieter under load than two GTX 780 Tis. It is dramatically quieter than a single reference 290x.
2: A Radeon 295X2 is significantly cooler under load than even a single GTX 780 Ti. Nvidia has very efficient air cooling, but the cards still operate at a max temperature of about 84 degrees Celsius. Meanwhile, the 295X2 doesn’t crest above 60 degrees Celsius while under heavy load. And gone are the days of your 7990 blowing hot exhaust back into your chassis — with an assist from Asetek, AMD got the thermals right.
(The 295X2 launches on April 21st, and we don’t yet know how Radeon Rewards — AMD’s tiered free game program — will factor in.
yup its even better than expected, i was thinking it will be in the 80c range.
http://hardocp.com/article/2014/04/08/amd_radeon_r9_295x2_video_card_review
mother of god...
windows 8.1 too.
check out that DX11 optimization :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:With the GeForce GTX 780 Ti we found the peak consistent clock speed on both GPUs went up to 1019MHz while gaming. This is higher than the boost clock on a GTX 780 Ti which is 928MHz. As we posted on the previous page, this seems slightly higher than we've tested in the past. Normally we've seen the GPU hit 1006MHz while gaming, but now it is at 1019MHz with this newest driver. We also noticed the temperature of the GPU was higher, at 87c, versus 84c on previous drivers. This higher temperature threshold has allowed the frequency to go higher, hence the 1019MHz. In any case, this means the GTX 780 Ti SLI configuration was providing us higher performance for this round of testing, so it definitely got to give us its best shot at stock performance without overclocking.
Well, that's two sites saying the 295x2 runs cool and runs quiet. I sense a pattern developing here.We do not yet have a working GPUz for the video card, so we cannot show you all the temperatures of components. We utilized Overdrive to watch the temperature and load while gaming for these results. At idle, both GPUs were at 34c on the R9 295X2, this was by far the coolest GPU temps at idle. This was a big improvement over the reference cooler.
At full-load it gets even better. The highest GPU temperatures we detected were 69c on the R9 295X2. This is a massively better temperature than what we get out of the reference AMD R9 290X and the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 Ti.
The fan on the video card itself remains silent. At full-load it cannot be heard. The fan on the radiator also remains silent at full-load. The RPMs are low enough that the fans don't create an annoying noise while gaming. Those who disliked the sound profile of the reference cards fans will like the sound profile here. AMD has fixed the sound issue by using water cooling. Fan noise is not an issue with this card. This is pretty much a silent dual-290X gaming experience
lmao best part:
check out that DX11 optimization :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
Seems a bit pricey still considering it would be cheaper to water cool 2 290X's, even given inflated prices. And if one can get a good deal on 290(x) crossfire, plus WC equipment, the price seems even higher.
I guess we are simply paying more of a premium for dual GPU cards these days. IIRC, the previous generations were usually cheaper when it came to purchasing 2 top end GPUs versus 1 dual GPU card. This made the dual GPU cards make more sense, like an economical bundle deal. This is not the case anymore.
Seems a bit pricey still considering it would be cheaper to water cool 2 290X's, even given inflated prices. And if one can get a good deal on 290(x) crossfire, plus WC equipment, the price seems even higher.
I guess we are simply paying more of a premium for dual GPU cards these days. IIRC, the previous generations were usually cheaper when it came to purchasing 2 top end GPUs versus 1 dual GPU card. This made the dual GPU cards make more sense, like an economical bundle deal. This is not the case anymore.
Funny how some people in the other thread were so sure the radiator wouldn't be up to task. Full boost clocks in every game, quieter than single high end cards. Too much money for my tastes, but they did a nice job on this card.
These are pretty much my thoughts. I wonder how it OCs xD
2x $599 for R290X = ~$1200.
+$110 x2 for 2 water blocks = ~$1420
Add in pumps, reservoir, loops, fittings. All that space premium.
I would prefer R295 X2 at around $1200 myself, but really, its a beast card and for a single card, allowing for QUADFIRE easily. Definitely worth the premium.
http://hardocp.com/article/2014/04/08/amd_radeon_r9_295x2_video_card_review/11#These are pretty much my thoughts. I wonder how it OCs xD
A pair of high CFM fans in push/pull, voltage tweaking and a mod to allow temps above 75c should allow this card to fly.As you can see we managed to achieve 1100MHz stable. In fact, our overclock took us all the way to 1140MHz, but games would lock up instantly when started. It wasn't until we got down to 1100MHz that games would run just fine. Since the default frequency is 1018MHz that is an 82MHz overclock. 1100MHz is the best overclock we've ever achieved on a 290X GPU without voltage tweaking. It seems the water cooling definitely helps. There is headroom to overclock higher thanks to the cooling. We experience a maximum temperature of 71c at 1100MHz. With some more voltage we could see these GPUs being stable at higher frequencies and maintain temperatures in the 70's. However, we did notice one thing, in Overdrive there was a maximum temperature cap of 75c. Therefore, without special supported software we may see the temperature max out at 75c and keep us from overclocking beyond that.
Time will tell how that works out, and once we can overclock with voltage overclocking that is when we think overclocks on the R9 295X2 may be impressive. By adding another fan on the radiator we may even be able to keep the GPU cooler, and thus achieve an even better overclock with voltage overclocking. In the end, we think the R9 295X2 has potential for being an enthusiast friendly overclocking video card with some extra potential thanks to the water cooling setup.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/R9_295_X2/27.html
Very well without vcore mods. [H] got 1.1ghz, TPU now got abit higher.
Scales excellently since its not throttling like the dodgy R290X.