The Radeon 7850 is an overclocking beast

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3DVagabond

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Elfear: Hm. Perhaps, but I wasn't under the impression that modern CPUs were all that much faster than somewhat older ones in games. Take, for example, this comparison between a Phenom II X4 955 and an i5 2500, which skipsneeky2 here says gives him 60+ FPS. Not a huge difference, is there? Of course, I don't know exactly how my particular CPU performs, as it's in a bit of a weird spot, but I can't imagine it's far below the 955.

skipsneeky2: That's more like the performance I was expecting. And yeah, Gulf of Oman is the most demanding.

2 cores to 4cores. Many games run better with more than 2 cores.
 

therealtoe

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And that definitely includes Battlefield 3, as I get a much lower framerate without the two extra cores unlocked.
 

skipsneeky2

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Heck,i screwed with my cpu affinity during a round of BF3,i made the game run on two cores,making my chip technically a g860,the game dropped nearly 30 fps in average fps,and it felt very chuggy despite many times i was over 60fps still,keep in mind this was indoors on a round of Metro,other maps it would have been much worst.
 

KingFatty

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When you overclock that unlocked AMD Ph II 550, are you also overclocking the CPU-NB? It's a separate thing to overclock it, but I know it really improves performance in games like SC2 (e.g., 20% change, on top of what you get when overclocking the CPU), so maybe it will also help Battlefield 3?
 

therealtoe

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No, just using an increased multiplier. I've tried adjusting the Northbridge, but that seems to cause my PC to crash no matter what.
 

kalrith

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Well, it seems I got a "dud" of a 7870. The ASIC score is 71%, and the best quick OC was 1150/1390 at stock voltage . It seems to only like stock voltage (1.218v). At 1.25v, it's still not stable at 1200. At 1.168v it's not stable at 1100. These are the best overclocks, but I'm certainly not complaining.

I haven't actually played games with it yet, because I've been testing the stability during the RMA period. My Heaven score increased from 888 with my 4870 512MB to about 2300 at 1150/1390. That seems to track pretty well with AT Bench. The 7870 stock is supposed to be 2.3 times faster than the 4870, and my OC increases that to 2.6 times faster. Also, having 4 times as much memory is a nice feeling.

I am having one problem with it. I tested my overclocks through Afterburner, but I went ahead and put them in CCC once I realized I'd be using stock voltage. The problem is that my voltage stays at 1.219v even in 2d mode. The speed drops to 400 MHz, but there's no decrease in voltage.

Any thoughts on this?
 

Olikan

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I am having one problem with it. I tested my overclocks through Afterburner, but I went ahead and put them in CCC once I realized I'd be using stock voltage. The problem is that my voltage stays at 1.219v even in 2d mode. The speed drops to 400 MHz, but there's no decrease in voltage.

Any thoughts on this?

update your bios...
 

skipsneeky2

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Well, it seems I got a "dud" of a 7870. The ASIC score is 71%, and the best quick OC was 1150/1390 at stock voltage . It seems to only like stock voltage (1.218v). At 1.25v, it's still not stable at 1200. At 1.168v it's not stable at 1100. These are the best overclocks, but I'm certainly not complaining.

I haven't actually played games with it yet, because I've been testing the stability during the RMA period. My Heaven score increased from 888 with my 4870 512MB to about 2300 at 1150/1390. That seems to track pretty well with AT Bench. The 7870 stock is supposed to be 2.3 times faster than the 4870, and my OC increases that to 2.6 times faster. Also, having 4 times as much memory is a nice feeling.

I am having one problem with it. I tested my overclocks through Afterburner, but I went ahead and put them in CCC once I realized I'd be using stock voltage. The problem is that my voltage stays at 1.219v even in 2d mode. The speed drops to 400 MHz, but there's no decrease in voltage.

Any thoughts on this?

I ran into issues at one point being stable at even 1100/1450 using msi afterburner @ 1.21v,my stock voltage.I replaced that program with asus tweak,enabled 1.225v and my highest overclock currently is 1150/1450 and its perfectly stable using 12.9 beta.

I doubt theres not a single card that can't do at least 1150/1450 at 1.225v,most people are running 1200 core at this voltage,seems 1150/1450 is the norm for 1.225v from my readings.
 

kalrith

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update your bios...

Thanks. For some reason I didn't even think of that.

skipsneeky2, I'll try ASUS tweak and see if that helps at all.

Also, my voltage drops when I hit load. It drops from 1.219v to about 1.180v and stays there while at 100% load. Is that a problem?
 

An00bis

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I ran into issues at one point being stable at even 1100/1450 using msi afterburner @ 1.21v,my stock voltage.I replaced that program with asus tweak,enabled 1.225v and my highest overclock currently is 1150/1450 and its perfectly stable using 12.9 beta.

I doubt theres not a single card that can't do at least 1150/1450 at 1.225v,most people are running 1200 core at this voltage,seems 1150/1450 is the norm for 1.225v from my readings.

why use 1450mhz for the memory? not even in synthetic benchmarks does it make a difference from 1375 to 1450 or higher, I tested 1500mhz and my score didn't increase in luxmark or 3dmark11.

Mine is MSI twin frozr III R7850 OC
I managed to do 1050/1375 at 1.038v (stock voltage OC) 1150/1375 at 1.110v, 1200/1375 at 1.150v and 1250/1375 at 1.2, I didn't attempt more since i have no idea what a healthy voltage is for my 7850.

My 7850 has 1.038v stock voltage, I see that most of you here have voltages of like 1.225v and 1.25v but you also have quite high stock voltages, like 1.1v+ and I only have 1.038 stock. Any experts on electronics here? here's a pic of my card's PCB, do you think it can take higher voltages easily?
http://i.imgur.com/mLCrd.jpg
I see that it has 2 slots for the power connector thingy, only 1 contains a power connector and since 7870 has 2 that must mean they used the same PCB, does that mean my gpu can take 7870 voltages? I've seen 7870s with volts of 1.3v+ so I guess that would be good to know if its true. But then again, I see that it has some missing parts, capacitors, resistors and whatever, only "drawings" where they should be, most likely some missing parts in the power phase area since I know that those little parallel chips are responsible for power phases.
 

skipsneeky2

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why use 1450mhz for the memory? not even in synthetic benchmarks does it make a difference from 1375 to 1450 or higher, I tested 1500mhz and my score didn't increase in luxmark or 3dmark11.

Mine is MSI twin frozr III R7850 OC
I managed to do 1050/1375 at 1.038v (stock voltage OC) 1150/1375 at 1.110v, 1200/1375 at 1.150v and 1250/1375 at 1.2, I didn't attempt more since i have no idea what a healthy voltage is for my 7850.

My 7850 has 1.038v stock voltage, I see that most of you here have voltages of like 1.225v and 1.25v but you also have quite high stock voltages, like 1.1v+ and I only have 1.038 stock. Any experts on electronics here? here's a pic of my card's PCB, do you think it can take higher voltages easily?
http://i.imgur.com/mLCrd.jpg
I see that it has 2 slots for the power connector thingy, only 1 contains a power connector and since 7870 has 2 that must mean they used the same PCB, does that mean my gpu can take 7870 voltages? I've seen 7870s with volts of 1.3v+ so I guess that would be good to know if its true. But then again, I see that it has some missing parts, capacitors, resistors and whatever, only "drawings" where they should be, most likely some missing parts in the power phase area since I know that those little parallel chips are responsible for power phases.

My card has been the odd duck model,my card refuses to be stable at even 1180 core with even stock memory clockspeeds,keep in mind we got the same exact card.

1150/1450 offers perfect stability in my case,but the remedy for a crappy overclocker is gonna be the purchase of a gtx670 in a few weeks time,most likely the zotac amp edition.

Been gaming at 1280x1024 but moving on back over to 1080p hence the upgrade.
 

An00bis

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My card has been the odd duck model,my card refuses to be stable at even 1180 core with even stock memory clockspeeds,keep in mind we got the same exact card.

1150/1450 offers perfect stability in my case,but the remedy for a crappy overclocker is gonna be the purchase of a gtx670 in a few weeks time,most likely the zotac amp edition.

Been gaming at 1280x1024 but moving on back over to 1080p hence the upgrade.
Well this card is actually pretty good at 1080p, the only game that runs at "low" fps is bf3, sometimes fps drops to 40 in big maps when everything is maxed out including AA but most of the time it sits at 60+, In low player maps it's obviously more stable. I would get a card like your new 670 as well if I could figure out what foreign seller could ship to my country without added VAT or outrageous transport costs I'd sell my gpu and get that since that gpu most likely costs less than my gpu did.
 
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I've tried iTurbo, Trixx, and whatever Asus names theirs. The Asus came closest, it said it would only unlock voltage on Asus cards.

MSI Afterburner isn't picking up mine either. This is disappointing but I'm not sure if it bothers me enough ATM to pursue it further. Maybe changing something in the Bios, or flashing another one, or just waiting until possibly the voltage regulators or whatever is going on get added to one of the OC programs will open it up. What are your voltages at default? I'm seeing 0.825V at idle and 1.138V on load with GPU-Z. Right now it's holding steady at 1050/1350.

Edit: Isn't there a program that let's you spoof your video card hardware ID? Maybe that can get you around the lock on the Asus program.
 
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