The real Hilary Clinton according to Secret Service

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Indus

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Within six months of being impeached, Bill Clinton's wife was elected by New Yorkers.

The world stood aghast.

-John

We didn't have much of a choice.. Rudy had prostate cancer and couldn't campaign.. so it was pretty much a win by default.

And this was back in the day when I was a Republican. I didn't switch till our beloved leader was too busy bbq'ing in Texas rather than reading a report by Condi titled Bin Laden determined to attack United States.
 

shira

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Within three years of being elected, Hitler turned Germany's economy around and wiped out unemployment while the rest of the world suffered under the Great Depression. Would you vote for him too?
Let's analyze this incredibly interesting question of yours.

Presumably you're telling us people with genocidal tendencies are geniuses at economics. But are you also telling us that bad tempers are highly correlated with genocidal tendencies? And are you further telling us that someone without genocidal tendencies cannot be a great leader?

Because without establishing both the second and third correlations, I'm afraid I can't conclude that voting for a candidate with a bad temper is like voting for Hitler, or doomed to produce an ineffective leader.

But perhaps you have some other interesting argument you'd like to make.
 

trenchfoot

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The guy is profiting from his writings. That alone is enough for me to cast suspicion on his.......musings and anecdotes about the folks he profiled in his publications. One man's profit driven agenda does not a factual representation make.

We need to have the names of those secret service agents known and have interviews of them conducted by a trustworthy unbiased interviewer so that we may judge for ourselves whether what they say about anything that happens in the White House is mere money making gossip or the factual truth.

And for the mere fact that what the author says he got off of those "secret" service agents is practically impossible to corroborate and determine the veracity thereof, it gives the author free rein to say anything he likes and get away with it.

I'd read that book in the same manner I'd read a beetle bailey comic strip.
 
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1sikbITCH

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Interesting idea. So when "the help" at the SS violates confidentiality about Hilary, that's "about time." But when "the help" at the same agency violates confidentiality about a Republican Committee Chairmen, that's an outrageous breech of trust.



Double-standards are kind of interesting, don't you think?

Ever since I saw Hilary Clinton smiling next to her own cheating husband I realized she will never have the backbone to stand up for what is right. She is not worthy.
 

waggy

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I am no fan of Hilary. I will not vote for her, unless it's her vs jeb and even then i will need plenty to drink.

But i don't give a flying fuck if she is nice or rude. it has NOTHING to do with how well of a president she will be.
 

michal1980

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Maybe what we need in this country is an "Arctic monster" who can kick some butt, and actually get something done.

But I must be wrong. Because - clearly - having a genuinely pleasant personality in private is a prerequisite for being an effective President. Just ask LBJ.

Like she got something done with Russia?
 

Newell Steamer

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Trump behaves in an abrupt and rude manner; wha, wha he do? He is just telling it like it is.

Hillabeast behaves in an abrupt and rude manner; SHE IS A MONSTER!

Jeez guys, can't you wait until she gets onto the throne into the White House to show your mouth frothing hate for someone with lady parts? I mean relax! She is technically a man.
 

unokitty

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Seems that the people that always defend Hillary have much more in common with the people that always attack Hillary than they do with other people ...

True Believers all...
Uno
 
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sandorski

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Seems that the people that always defend Hillary have much more in common with the people that always attack Hillary than they do with other people ...

True Believers all...
Uno

If there were better reasons to criticize her, people would be more willing to agree with those criticisms. Many of her supporters(many that will eventually be anyway) have been willing to criticize her on some points. The OP though is a big yawn.
 

justoh

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Predictable. Vile woman. Just look into her eyes. She has no soul.
 

werepossum

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Maybe what we need in this country is an "Arctic monster" who can kick some butt, and actually get something done.

But I must be wrong. Because - clearly - having a genuinely pleasant personality in private is a prerequisite for being an effective President. Just ask LBJ.
If you are holding up LBJ as being either a genuinely pleasant personality or an effective President, I can understand why you are a Hildabeast supporter.

For fucks sake. Anyone remember when the Secret Service could keep secrets, and Navy SEALS didn't get book deals about secret operations?
Yup. I'm torn in these situations. On the one hand, such revelations are an inherent violation of the spirit of service; they lessen the honor of those who make them. On the other, does it make sense to allow America to be sold a false image, or to limit those benefitting from a military operation to politicians whose lives and limbs were never at risk?
 

werepossum

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I always thought nasty and arrogant were valuable qualities conservatives have sought in would-be leaders. Or is that only when they are Republican candidates? Better question would be: Who in the fuck would be crazy enough to vote for any loonie that the Republicans put forward for President? Based on what conservatives are offering so far, barring being caught in bed with either a live girl or a dead boy (possibly even both), if Hillary is the Dem nominee then she has my vote. I'm not registered with any party in my state, I'm a small "i" independent. No party affiliation, I don't even get to vote in the primaries. When it comes to voting, I've always voted for the pile that smells the least.

Republicans stink like fuck. It will probably be a cold day in Hell before I ever vote for another one.
Thank you for that excellent representation of the batshit crazy extreme leftist pretending he's independent.
 

werepossum

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Ever since I saw Hilary Clinton smiling next to her own cheating husband I realized she will never have the backbone to stand up for what is right. She is not worthy.
You mistake her. Had she dumped and/or derided him, she would have had sympathy but no political future, just a sad footnote. Hillary had the backbone to stand up and smile through any adversity in service of what she truly values - her own power.
 

bozack

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I am no fan of Hilary. I will not vote for her, unless it's her vs jeb and even then i will need plenty to drink.

But i don't give a flying fuck if she is nice or rude. it has NOTHING to do with how well of a president she will be.

this to me seems like one of the dumbest things I have read all day, congrats for winning that award.

So you're telling us/me that a persons character will have no impact on the type and or quality of a president/world leader they will be?

Must be nice to live on your planet, sure you see plenty of rainbow vomiting unicorns regularly I presume.
 

ivwshane

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What's funny is that we hear so much talk from the right about how tuff Putin is and weak Obama is and we have a republican front runner, who for all intents and purposes, is a dick, and yet when we have an apparently strong woman who takes no prisoners we have people hating on her and discrediting her.

Quite the contradiction in my eyes but then again I think anyone will justify tier hate for Hillary no matter what.
 

trenchfoot

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What's funny is that we hear so much talk from the right about how tuff Putin is and weak Obama is and we have a republican front runner, who for all intents and purposes, is a dick, and yet when we have an apparently strong woman who takes no prisoners we have people hating on her and discrediting her.

Quite the contradiction in my eyes but then again I think anyone will justify tier hate for Hillary no matter what.

She's definitely got a lot to hate about, but on the side of the aisle that Hillary is jousting with, that slick propaganda machine of theirs has apparently broke down and they've now reverted to deploying *virtual flash cards, quickly flipping between pictures of a piece of shit on a stick and Hillary Clinton.

Yep, it's gotten down to that level of desperation and it ain't even 2016 yet.

Bless you Donald Trump, ye know not what gifts you trail behind you much like the proverbial toilet paper stuck to the bottom of a shoe.
 

MongGrel

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She's definitely got a lot to hate about, but on the side of the aisle that Hillary is jousting with, that slick propaganda machine of theirs has apparently broke down and they've now reverted to deploying *virtual flash cards, quickly flipping between pictures of a piece of shit on a stick and Hillary Clinton.

Yep, it's gotten down to that level of desperation and it ain't even 2016 yet.

Bless you Donald Trump, ye know not what gifts you trail behind you much like the proverbial toilet paper stuck to the bottom of a shoe.

Oh, that is great.

+1
 

Darwin333

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It's easy to hate someone that you don't actually know.

It's easy to read stuff in the media written by people you don't actually know who have known and unknown agendas and think that what they write tells you all that you need to know about someone that you don't actually know.

It's easy to hate someone that you don't actually know.

So you've had enough face time with Hillary to get to know her?
 

Indus

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In all fairness, I'd personally be really nice to the people who have sworn to jump in front of bullets meant for me.

I think you'd have to recruit some lesbians to do that, but from a man's point of view, she's not worth pouncing on even with a bag on her head! :whiste:
 
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