The real Hilary Clinton according to Secret Service

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werepossum

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Trump behaves in an abrupt and rude manner; wha, wha he do? He is just telling it like it is.

Hillabeast behaves in an abrupt and rude manner; SHE IS A MONSTER!

Jeez guys, can't you wait until she gets onto the throne into the White House to show your mouth frothing hate for someone with lady parts? I mean relax! She is technically a man.
Gotta love your flexibility in sliding between "everything is racism" and "everything is sexism".

I think you'd have to recruit some lesbians to do that, but from a man's point of view, she's not worth pouncing on even with a bag on her head! :whiste:
Congrats on setting the low bar in a thread about the Hildabeast. That cannot have been easy.

For the record, I consider her to be a horrendous person but were I Secret Service I would take a bullet for her. For that matter, were she President and I somehow in the same room, and some nut pulled a gun, I would move between them. There are principles more important than the person.
 

Jhhnn

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Thank you for that excellent representation of the batshit crazy extreme leftist pretending he's independent.

But, but... I mean, haven't righties been trying to convince Dems that Hillary isn't enough of a Liberal to warrant our consideration? Why would batshit crazy extreme leftists, leftists, leftists! support her if that were true?

The truth is that she'll look great to voters up against the opposition, once we get past the character assassination, consider the issues & the record.

And, uhh, no, Ben-fucking-ghazi isn't an issue, nor is her email server or her being rude or Bill fooling around.

In case you haven't noticed, Repubs tout the same ideology & policy that crashed the economy, destabilized the Mideast, offshored millions of jobs, sustains the WoD & fosters explosive inequality. None of that will be a big seller.
 
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fuzzybabybunny

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If these reports are true, I wouldn't want this character of person to be in charge of anything, much less be the president. This type of behavior would run the great risk of sowing resentment, spite, and would close off avenues to compromise in the people she interacts with. That's not something we want in a leader.

I'd rather have an opponent of her's say, "I disgreed with her a lot, but let's still continue to hear what she has to say," versus "I disagree with her, fuck her, and whatever she wants I'm just automatically going to do the opposite, because fuck her."
 

DrDoug

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If these reports are true, I wouldn't want this character of person to be in charge of anything, much less be the president. This type of behavior would run the great risk of sowing resentment, spite, and would close off avenues to compromise in the people she interacts with. That's not something we want in a leader.

I'd rather have an opponent of her's say, "I disgreed with her a lot, but let's still continue to hear what she has to say," versus "I disagree with her, fuck her, and whatever she wants I'm just automatically going to do the opposite, because fuck her."

Thanks for the laugh! You're worried that she won't compromise with her opposition? Are Republicans going to compromise?! Fuck no. As far as your all-too-real imaginary opponent goes, the second sentence is already the operative one for the Republican party and their politicians.

Get real.
 

Jhhnn

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If these reports are true, I wouldn't want this character of person to be in charge of anything, much less be the president. This type of behavior would run the great risk of sowing resentment, spite, and would close off avenues to compromise in the people she interacts with. That's not something we want in a leader.

I'd rather have an opponent of her's say, "I disgreed with her a lot, but let's still continue to hear what she has to say," versus "I disagree with her, fuck her, and whatever she wants I'm just automatically going to do the opposite, because fuck her."

I'd rather have a unicorn, too, but Repubs are not interested in working out anything. Witness their obstructionism & extortion since 2008.
 

fuzzybabybunny

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Thanks for the laugh! You're worried that she won't compromise with her opposition? Are Republicans going to compromise?! Fuck no. As far as your all-too-real imaginary opponent goes, the second sentence is already the operative one for the Republican party and their politicians.

Get real.
Right. Because more gridlock is what we need.

Get real.
 

werepossum

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But, but... I mean, haven't righties been trying to convince Dems that Hillary isn't enough of a Liberal to warrant our consideration? Why would batshit crazy extreme leftists, leftists, leftists! support her if that were true?

The truth is that she'll look great to voters up against the opposition, once we get past the character assassination, consider the issues & the record.

And, uhh, no, Ben-fucking-ghazi isn't an issue, nor is her email server or her being rude or Bill fooling around.

In case you haven't noticed, Repubs tout the same ideology & policy that crashed the economy, destabilized the Mideast, offshored millions of jobs, sustains the WoD & fostered explosive inequality. None of that will be a big seller.
No, no one on the right is saying she isn't far enough left. Why on Earth would anyone on the right ever think that? We've pointed out that she is a horrible person. I realize you cannot understand the difference between a bad person and someone who disagrees politically, but actual, functional, flesh and blood people can and do make that differentiation.
 

ivwshane

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Right. Because more gridlock is what we need.

Get real.

No but it's what we are going to get unless it's a republican president. The party of no ideas and obstruction doesn't deserve the presidency on so many levels alone.

If they weren't willing to work with or compromise with Barack Obama, mr always a measures response, then you'd have to be an idiot if you think another "nice guy" will do the trick this time.

You can only attempt to kick the football so many times before you say fuck it and bring someone on the field to kick Lucy in her fucking face
 

fuzzybabybunny

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I'm sure we could get past gridlock & move forward to corporate fascism if Repubs could arrange it.

Get out of your we vs them mentality for just a moment and consider the qualities of a leader.

A leader is nothing without a cohesive team.

From the looks of it, based on her behavior she would push away people who are against her as well as those who are *on her side* and those who are duty-bound to be on her side. Sounds to me like whatever team she has would be pretty dysfunctional.
 

fuzzybabybunny

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No but it's what we are going to get unless it's a republican president. The party of no ideas and obstruction doesn't deserve the presidency on so many levels alone.

If they weren't willing to work with or compromise with Barack Obama, mr always a measures response, then you'd have to be an idiot if you think another "nice guy" will do the trick this time.

You can only attempt to kick the football so many times before you say fuck it and bring someone on the field to kick Lucy in her fucking face

I think at this point the Republicans are well on their way to kicking themselves in the face and making themselves less and less relevant just by doing what they do.

Sometimes you want leaders who are hardlined against their opponents. But do you really ever want a leader that breeds resentment from within her own support team? I'm not going to support a "leader" who can't seem to elevate those members who are on the same team. Talk about fail. Presidential bubbles are well-documented and only serve to signify how absolutely essential support staff are to the effectiveness of a president. You can't have someone in the hot seat who fails to cultivate support staff.
 

Jhhnn

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No, no one on the right is saying she isn't far enough left. Why on Earth would anyone on the right ever think that? We've pointed out that she is a horrible person. I realize you cannot understand the difference between a bad person and someone who disagrees politically, but actual, functional, flesh and blood people can and do make that differentiation.

Please. The concern trolling has been epic.

A horrible person as compared to an Admin that led us to war on false pretenses? A political party who held extended UI hostage to continued fat cat tax cuts in the face of a great economic catastrophe & rampant unemployment brought on by their own policy? Who threatened to deny the full faith & credit of our govt if they couldn't cut aid to needy families? Who propagate the lies of voter fraud to disenfranchise Americans?

Next to that, Hillary is a sweet old lady.
 

Jhhnn

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Get out of your we vs them mentality for just a moment and consider the qualities of a leader.

A leader is nothing without a cohesive team.

From the looks of it, based on her behavior she would push away people who are against her as well as those who are *on her side* and those who are duty-bound to be on her side. Sounds to me like whatever team she has would be pretty dysfunctional.

So, uhh, she didn't have a cohesive team as SoS? As a Senator from New York?

What planet are you from, anyway?
 

trenchfoot

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I personally think Hillary is a grouchy 'ol babushka who kick starts her day by gazing at herself buck nekkid in front of a full length mirror, getting really pissed off with those impressively plump cankles of hers and then concentrates on keeping that mood all day to strike fear and respect of her, her demeanor and her bountiful girly girth.
 

fuzzybabybunny

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She built cohesive teams to fulfill the duties of leadership in both cases. That's obvious.
Please state why it is obvious.

She inherited a wide array of problems from the previous administration, yes.

She managed to build a team cohesive enough to not make any of the problems worse.

I don't see any real standouts in her tenure, unless you count "not making things worse" a standout (which in all honesty could be argued depending on the extent of the problems she inherited and how other parts of the system worked for or against her).

What did she accomplish that could be considered a great example of leadership and teamwork? Stuff that could only realistically be accomplished with a good team behind it? Visiting more countries than any other past SoS would not qualify, for example.
 
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ivwshane

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Please state why it is obvious.

She inherited a wide array of problems from the previous administration, yes.

She managed to build a team cohesive enough to not make any of the problems worse.

I don't see any real standouts in her tenure, unless you count "not making things worse" a standout (which in all honesty could be argued depending on the extent of the problems she inherited and how other parts of the system worked for or against her).

What did she accomplish that could be considered a great example of leadership and teamwork? Stuff that could only realistically be accomplished with a good team behind it? Visiting more countries than any other past SoS would not qualify, for example.

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/lesli...clintons-accomplishments-speak-for-themselves

Now to compare and contrast, pull up trumps record, or bush's.
If I can say anything about Hilary it's that she's a horrible politician and by that I mean that she sucks at communicating with voters and hyping herself up. She's the exact opposite of trump (as a politician).
 

Sonikku

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Within three years of being elected, Hitler turned Germany's economy around and wiped out unemployment while the rest of the world suffered under the Great Depression. Would you vote for him too?

He also never killed anybody, ever. Save for that one time he killed Hitler. Give the man a freaking medal.
 
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