the real reason Israel is destroying Gaza....

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JEDIYoda

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Amazing the poor character of the responses to this issue of humanity.
Amazing the lack of understanding that if Israel does not win there is no Israel.......

There use to be a saying --

The truth is that if Israel were to put down its arms there would be no more Israel. If the Arabs were to put down their arms there would be no more war.

'If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more violence. If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel '.
 

JEDIYoda

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And if Israel actually could carpet bomb the Gaza Strip they would have done so already. <-- You are delusional...Israel could and does have the munitions to carpet bomb Gaza....Israel also has access to munitions and weapons that the US has stored in Israel which amounts to enough to go to war if need be.

The fact is they would be immediately hit with full Sanctions from most of the countries in the world and the Arab countries would wage asymmetrical warfare against the Israelites. <--- the fact is you have no clue who actually under the table approves of what Israel is presently doing in Gaza....many countries including a few Arab Countries down through the years have offered help and approval under the table. ...
You know better than that clap trap about full sanctions......
 

norseamd

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You are using the fact that without any defensive strength Israel would not exist to disingenuously justify the offensive genocide of the Israelites.

 

norseamd

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You decided to try to attack the two sentences of my post on their own despite the clear fact that they were in relation to each other for the overall meaning.

 

JEDIYoda

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You are some by the book example of hypocrisy and ignorance jediyoda.
truth hurts huh....

The truth is that if Israel were to put down its arms there would be no more Israel. If the Arabs were to put down their arms there would be no more war.

'If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more violence. If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel '.


Prove me wrong...rofl...this ought to be good....
 

Caravaggio

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Prove me wrong...rofl..
That's easy.
I am going to select the "ad hominem" method as mentioned in Norseamd's helpful guide to logical fallacies in post 28, this thread.

You are wrong JY, because you can't even spell Rolf!

Actually you are wrong because you have a blinkered unconditional love for Israel which dismisses any counter evidence as "anti-semitic".
You had the chutzpah to call me "a Jew -hater" but you had not actually noticed that the authors of the peer -reviewed historical texts I referred to were Israeli Jews.
Perhaps they are anti-Semites too?
What do Zionist shills call Jews with whom they disagree?

Err, yes, I remember " Self-hating Jews".

On a more serious point...

Just read that the pre-dawn IDF shelling of the Jabaliya UN girls school in Gaza yesterday, killed 16 civilians. Mostly women and kids.

The flèchette shells also ripped eight donkeys to pieces. They had been tethered outside to help carry the belongings of the people ordered to leave their homes.
The IDF are "reviewing" the incident.
When the donkey parts have been interrogated we expect to be told that the Donkeys killed were known Hamas 'terrorist' donkeys.
 

Borealis7

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weapons found in school, school gets destroyed. that's pretty simple. children shouldn't be hiding where weapons are stored.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/07/29/THIRD-Rocket-Arsenal-Found-At-UN-School-In-Gaza

what we don't know (but can guess) is whether a Hamas guy was standing there with a gun pointed at them to keep them inside.

UNWRA is a joke and has shown many times it's just a collaborating organization to Hamas, perpetuating the refugee crisis. funded in part by the US government, BTW.
 
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hal2kilo

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That's easy.
I am going to select the "ad hominem" method as mentioned in Norseamd's helpful guide to logical fallacies in post 28, this thread.

You are wrong JY, because you can't even spell Rolf!

Actually you are wrong because you have a blinkered unconditional love for Israel which dismisses any counter evidence as "anti-semitic".
You had the chutzpah to call me "a Jew -hater" but you had not actually noticed that the authors of the peer -reviewed historical texts I referred to were Israeli Jews.
Perhaps they are anti-Semites too?
What do Zionist shills call Jews with whom they disagree?

Err, yes, I remember " Self-hating Jews".

On a more serious point...

Just read that the pre-dawn IDF shelling of the Jabaliya UN girls school in Gaza yesterday, killed 16 civilians. Mostly women and kids.

The flèchette shells also ripped eight donkeys to pieces. They had been tethered outside to help carry the belongings of the people ordered to leave their homes.
The IDF are "reviewing" the incident.
When the donkey parts have been interrogated we expect to be told that the Donkeys killed were known Hamas 'terrorist' donkeys.

Oh great, so Israel is using cluster bombs, now there's some real moral high ground. They aren't for destroying buildings or infrasruture folks.
 

KK

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Oh great, so Israel is using cluster bombs, now there's some real moral high ground. They aren't for destroying buildings or infrasruture folks.

Good, they need to exterminate every person in gaza.

Advocating the wholesale extermination, the genocide, of an entire population -- women, children, otherwise innocent civilians and all -- will NOT be further tolerated on these forums.

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DrPizza

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Just on one of the points made - the price comparison of rockets. That's stupid.

I could get a $20 model rocket, and fire it. You think you can shoot it down with another $20 rocket? To shoot down that model rocket, it's going to cost 10's of 1000's of dollars for the sophistication required. It doesn't take a lot of sophistication to fill a rocket with explosives and send it on its way. It takes a hell of a lot of sophistication ($$$$$) to shoot that rocket down. What a very disingenuous comparison in the OP.
 

cabri

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Just on one of the points made - the price comparison of rockets. That's stupid.

I could get a $20 model rocket, and fire it. You think you can shoot it down with another $20 rocket? To shoot down that model rocket, it's going to cost 10's of 1000's of dollars for the sophistication required. It doesn't take a lot of sophistication to fill a rocket with explosives and send it on its way. It takes a hell of a lot of sophistication ($$$$$) to shoot that rocket down. What a very disingenuous comparison in the OP.

Look at who the OP is and what common sense he shows within the forums
 

Phynaz

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And if Israel actually could carpet bomb the Gaza Strip they would have done so already. The fact is they would be immediately hit with full Sanctions from most of the countries in the world and the Arab countries would wage asymmetrical warfare against the Israelites.

The rest of the Arab world doesn't give two shits about the Palestinians.
 

SandEagle

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The rest of the Arab world doesn't give two shits about the Palestinians.

wrong. they all care.
the destruction of syria, egypt, iraq, palestine, and soon-to-iran was planned well in advance by israel and the neocons. it is known.
 

Phynaz

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wrong. they all care.
the destruction of syria, egypt, iraq, palestine, and soon-to-iran was planned well in advance by israel and the neocons. it is known.

Really. Then why has no other Arab nation come to the Palestinian's aid? Nobody on the planet wants anything to do with them.
 

Greenman

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wrong. they all care.
the destruction of syria, egypt, iraq, palestine, and soon-to-iran was planned well in advance by israel and the neocons. it is known.

I understand now. I had thought you had real humanitarian issues with all of this, and I was having trouble seeing why you applied those reasons to the Palestinians and not the Jews. But you're a tin foil hat fellow, logic need not apply, it all makes sense now.
 

cabri

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i didn't write the article. :\ but nice personal attack. its the modus operandi of shillz

If you are going to post the article as well as quote/reguritate parts of it, what more can be said.

You are just like another poster here posts up articles without reading/understanding them.

Or if you have the capability to do so; then you are trolling with information that is easily able to be proven flawed. But getting the attention is why you post.
It is your MO.
 

cabri

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The rest of the Arab world doesn't give two shits about the Palestinians.
wrong. they all care.
the destruction of syria, egypt, iraq, palestine, and soon-to-iran was planned well in advance by israel and the neocons. it is known.
Really. Then why has no other Arab nation come to the Palestinian's aid? Nobody on the planet wants anything to do with them.

everyone is busy.

For the past 50 years?

Everyone was concerned about helping (not the Palestinian - they are considered to be lower than the normal Arab), but eliminating Israel for the first 20 years. then most wised up.
Ask why the Arabs did not want a state of Palestine?
why were the Palestinians "freedom fighters" not welcome in most of the Arab countries.

The Arabs are busy doing what?
 

SandEagle

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I understand now. I had thought you had real humanitarian issues with all of this, and I was having trouble seeing why you applied those reasons to the Palestinians and not the Jews. But you're a tin foil hat fellow, logic need not apply, it all makes sense now.

Levant Basin.
 

nageov3t

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For the past 50 years?

Everyone was concerned about helping (not the Palestinian - they are considered to be lower than the normal Arab), but eliminating Israel for the first 20 years. then most wised up.
Ask why the Arabs did not want a state of Palestine?
why were the Palestinians "freedom fighters" not welcome in most of the Arab countries.

The Arabs are busy doing what?

they're pretty busy being oppressive dictators... of course, if Hamas had their way they'd just institute a different flavor of oppression after killing every Jew in the middle east.

I feel like Israel is the least-bad amongst a parade of awfuls in terms of Middle East governments. it's unfortunate that the Palestinians are caught in the middle of this, but it's hard to divorce them from the goals of Hamas as long as Hamas is in power.
 
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