The REALEST AMD Vs. Intel Comparison Video Ever Made!

[Azix]

This has probably been posted long ago, but thoughts? Still relevant?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCrOAng0kdQ

So in this video I am comparing an Intel Core i7 to an AMD Phenom II X6 1045T by rendering the same exact video in the same exact software using the same exact settings. Does the Intel CPU destroy the somewhat dated AMD Phenom II X6 chip? Watch the full video to find out!

 

[cytg111]

video rendering? really? The point stands though. I thought he was gonna play back an mp3 to make that point.

 

[Schmide]

At least it wasn't vertical video.

 

[Shakabutt]

"Why would i pay 50,100 bucks for 5 fps trololollol"

Yeah well when you are struggling with 20-25 fps in a game believe you me it seems like chump change.

I switched from a lifetime of AMD rigs last year, from a fx 6100 to a crappy Ivy Bridge Xeon, the 1240v2.

Yes the grass is soooooo much greener on the other side when i couldnt even play some games on that fx (dying light, ac unity, farcry 4, etc) and now i play games so smoothly it becomes routine, literally the worry and anxiety i had when starting games and the dissapointment when i saw sub 30 fps gameplay is gone.

Fuck AMD and their "real world" benches, if its faster its faster and thats all there is to it.Save your sanity and buy a proper gaming cpu, yes Intel , i cannot stress enough how much i was stressing myself about not playing games properly before, from stuttering to really crappy fps AMD can do it all except put out decent performance.

There is no such thing as acceptable performance for the price with AMD, the fact of the matter is , you buy AMD now you are depriving yourself of a normal and stress free gaming experience, fuck those 1 second benchmarks, games is where its at and AMD is no competition.

 

[cytg111]

"Why would i pay 50,100 bucks for 5 fps trololollol"

Yeah well when you are struggling with 20-25 fps in a game believe you me it seems like chump change.

I switched from a lifetime of AMD rigs last year, from a fx 6100 to a crappy Ivy Bridge Xeon, the 1240v2.

Yes the grass is soooooo much greener on the other side when i couldnt even play some games on that fx (dying light, ac unity, farcry 4, etc) and now i play games so smoothly it becomes routine, literally the worry and anxiety i had when starting games and the dissapointment when i saw sub 30 fps gameplay is gone.

Fuck AMD and their "real world" benches, if its faster its faster and thats all there is to it.Save your sanity and buy a proper gaming cpu, yes Intel , i cannot stress enough how much i was stressing myself about not playing games properly before, from stuttering to really crappy fps AMD can do it all except put out decent performance.

There is no such thing as acceptable performance for the price with AMD, the fact of the matter is , you buy AMD now you are depriving yourself of a normal and stress free gaming experience, fuck those 1 second benchmarks, games is where its at and AMD is no competition.

I dont know what to say. It's like you went from one camp to the other .. there is life beyond camps is all i can tell you.

 

[MongGrel]

NM.

 

[Ventanni]

FPU heavy benchmark, 4 cores vs 6? Not knocking the X6 here, as I'd kill to have one in my second machine, but I don't think there's any way to spin it as being on equal footing with a Core i7.

 

[lyssword]

everybody knows amd can hang with core in well threaded apps as everyone also knows intel is miles away when it comes to gaming fps.

 

[dark zero]

That's why AMD got fked up.. they should stayed on that normal uARCH and not moved to Bulldozer... they could simply lived without HT and still competing against i5's without problem.

 

[Spungo]

everybody knows amd can hang with core in well threaded apps

That's the big problem. Everything I use seems to be single threaded. OCR 500 scanned PDF pages? Single threaded. AutoCAD? Single threaded. Civ 5? Seems to use about 2 cores. I don't play World of Warcraft anymore, but that game was mostly single threaded.

I don't understand why so many apps are poorly threaded. My programming skills are maybe first or second semester college level, and even I can make things highly threaded. There's absolutely no excuse for Acrobat only doing OCR on one page at a time. If my work computer has 4 cores, why can't this crap software do 4 pages at once?

 

[Dresdenboy]

As a real video editor told me, not rendering is the problem, but handling the clips in the editor. After switching to SSD and a i7-4790K (had a cheap IB i5 before) he's still complaining about the sluggishness while using 4-6 2K video streams at once in Sony Vegas Pro.

And regarding the MT performance: AMD didn't count in the human factor. Recently I optimized some data converters adding some 20 lines, which basically created a cache (so not to disturb the 20k LOC structure). Speedup 10x (still Debug) to 52x (Release mode). Before it was "good enough".

 

[tynopik]

There's absolutely no excuse for Acrobat only doing OCR on one page at a time. If my work computer has 4 cores, why can't this crap software do 4 pages at once?

Because it's no Abbyy Finereader

 

[Rakehellion]

I think more people play games than render video.

 

[Ken g6]

I don't understand why so many apps are poorly threaded. My programming skills are maybe first or second semester college level, and even I can make things highly threaded.

In what language? Some languages are easier to multi-thread than others. Java's pretty easy. C, not so much.

Or you might be underestimating your programming skills, and overestimating the average programmer's skill.

 

[Idontcare]

That's the big problem. Everything I use seems to be single threaded. OCR 500 scanned PDF pages? Single threaded. AutoCAD? Single threaded. Civ 5? Seems to use about 2 cores. I don't play World of Warcraft anymore, but that game was mostly single threaded.

I don't understand why so many apps are poorly threaded. My programming skills are maybe first or second semester college level, and even I can make things highly threaded. There's absolutely no excuse for Acrobat only doing OCR on one page at a time. If my work computer has 4 cores, why can't this crap software do 4 pages at once?

IMO, if it really was that easy then we'd have a bunch of knock-off look-alike software apps to choose from, written by countless well-educated and eager software engineers in India and China, highly threaded and able to accomplish exactly what you wish to see from the big software companies.

Given the vastly lower barrier to entry for software programming and publishing, we should be up to our eyeballs in highly threaded apps if it is simply a matter of enthusiastic people acquiring programming skills on par with a 1-2 year technical degree and applying themselves.

But since this doesn't seem to be the case, maybe there is something more to it than what your personal experience is leading you to believe?

 

[Spungo]

But since this doesn't seem to be the case, maybe there is something more to it than what your personal experience is leading you to believe?

I'm fairly convinced it just comes down to laziness. I'll give a real example of something I've done that could be done but simply hasn't been done. I work in engineering, and a lot of this involves printing AutoCAD drawings to PDF files. For a particular project, there are about 10 drawing sets. If I use AutoCAD's built in "publish" command, I can do one set at a time, but I can't queue up multiple sets, and I can't do multiple in parallel. The next step up from there is Bluebeam PDF. This program integrates with AutoCAD, and it does allow me to queue up multiple sets, but it only does them in series. Writing to PDF is completely CPU-limited, so I should be doing 4 of them at once. I can't do that with Bluebeam. Why? Nobody knows. How easy is it to do this? Here's how:

publish_everything.bat:
start "" "C:\autocadpath\accoreconsole.exe +publish "C:\sammy\drawing_set1.dsd"
start "" "C:\autocadpath\accoreconsole.exe +publish "C:\sammy\drawing_set2.dsd"
start "" "C:\autocadpath\accoreconsole.exe +publish "C:\sammy\drawing_set3.dsd"
start "" "C:\autocadpath\accoreconsole.exe +publish "C:\sammy\drawing_set4.dsd"
start "" "C:\autocadpath\accoreconsole.exe +publish "C:\sammy\drawing_set5.dsd"
start "" "C:\autocadpath\accoreconsole.exe +publish "C:\sammy\drawing_set6.dsd"
start "" "C:\autocadpath\accoreconsole.exe +publish "C:\sammy\drawing_set7.dsd"
start "" "C:\autocadpath\accoreconsole.exe +publish "C:\sammy\drawing_set8.dsd"
start "" "C:\autocadpath\accoreconsole.exe +publish "C:\sammy\drawing_set9.dsd"
start "" "C:\autocadpath\accoreconsole.exe +publish "C:\sammy\drawing_set10.dsd"

Double click that batch file. Done. These Bluebeam guys were smart enough to write a PDF program that gets rave reviews, and they still couldn't put in 5 minutes of effort to allow publishing in parallel. The program I wrote to do this just creates a batch file, runs it, waits for all of them to finish, and deletes the batch file. If you're a real coding gangster, you can probably make it run all of those without creating a batch file.

While I'm bitching about Acrobat, I should ask why commenting is so painfully slow. Make 20 comments on a page, select all of the comments, right click and go to property, and check the "locked" box. It will freeze for maybe 5-10 seconds. Why does that take so long? It's acting like the entire PDF needs to be re-written.

 

[bononos]

FPU heavy benchmark, 4 cores vs 6? Not knocking the X6 here, as I'd kill to have one in my second machine, but I don't think there's any way to spin it as being on equal footing with a Core i7.

I don't know what Sony Vegas will do exactly but video encoding is mainly integer based not fp. Which is why AMDs old Thuban and Bulldozer family will do well in encoding tasks.