The Redskins are the Redskins are the Redskins...Bob Costas is an idiot & buffoon....

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zinfamous

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This has possibilities: custom Helmullet sales alone would be worth millions!

That would make more sense for the Mississippi Hillbillies. or Mississippi Trailer Hogs. or Mississippi Rednecks. or Mississippi Trash. etc.

"cracker" is more general for all white people, afaik.
 

Scotteq

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That would make more sense for the Mississippi Hillbillies. or Mississippi Trailer Hogs. or Mississippi Rednecks. or Mississippi Trash. etc.

"cracker" is more general for all white people, afaik.

IIRC - 'cracker' refers to cattlemen in Florida, and stems from the sound of their bullwhips. 'Hillbilly' is definitely Appalachian.


...I guess HelMullet wasn't worth a snicker...
 

Gunslinger08

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This should be the end of the thread. Even a vast majority of Native Americans don't care.

In reference to the arguments about this not being freedom of speech, it kind of is. A member of the US House of Reps introduced a bill earlier this year to not allow any trademarks on the term "redskins." If this were to gain traction and be approved, it would essentially limit the freedom of speech of any company/person who makes money off of a brand name.

Seriously, why is this coming up 80 years after the team was started? I really despise people who get offended for others who aren't even offended themselves.
 

Sho'Nuff

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Seriously, why is this coming up 80 years after the team was started? I really despise people who get offended for others who aren't even offended themselves.

SIR! You offend me by saying that I may not be offended for others and thus defend their honor when they themselves do not believe it is offended. Joe over here will make my case for me, as I am not so offended as he is at your derision towards my right to piss on others on behalf of others who do not care.
 

BUTCH1

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Enough of this shit, last time some Indian group were wining about the Cleveland Indians, their suggestion was "why don't you call them the Cleveland Jews"..yea, that sounds great..
 

lupi

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Tommy Yazzie, superintendent of the Red Mesa school district on the Navajo Nation reservation, grew up when Navajo children were forced into boarding schools to disconnect them from their culture. Some were punished for speaking their native language. Today, he sees environmental issues as the biggest threat to his people.

The high school football team in his district is the Red Mesa Redskins.



Racists!
 

Sulaco

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Tommy Yazzie, superintendent of the Red Mesa school district on the Navajo Nation reservation, grew up when Navajo children were forced into boarding schools to disconnect them from their culture. Some were punished for speaking their native language. Today, he sees environmental issues as the biggest threat to his people.

The high school football team in his district is the Red Mesa Redskins.



Racists!

Quick!! Let's fly out some of our nerdy, white, pseudo-intellectual Anandtech forum members to personally enlighten them to the inherent insensitivity of their ways, and educate them as to why they're a bunch of foul racists!
 

zinfamous

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Navajo Code Talkers leader defends Redskins name

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap20...ajo-code-talkers-leader-defends-redskins-name

Silly man, doesn't he know when to follow whiteys agenda.

not to totally discount what this veteran is thinking but:

Hawthorne, vice president of the Navajo Code Talkers Association, said the group's trip was paid for by the Redskins. The four men met briefly with team owner Dan Snyder but did not discuss the name, Hawthorne said. Still, he said he would endorse the name if asked, and the televised appearance in which three of the Indians wore Redskins jackets spoke for itself.

I mean...yeah.

but history is history, this guy doesn't give an origin for the name, because it really is an insult. As said about 2 dozen times already--this isn't about being PC, it's about not being jackasses.
 
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The arguments that Native Americans don't care is silly. You want to know why they don't care? Because it doesn't matter, America has already trampled them and continues to do so. They know their opinions don't actually matter as far as what is done, they'll still be treated like shit just like they always have been by the US. Why give them the satisfaction of trotting them out to condemn something when they'll just be tossed and forgotten 5 minutes later? Voicing their issue is basically further letting a society that marginalizes and belittles them to do so even further. That's what's lost on you idiots, for the actual people its not about the name, its about how they're treated, and so what you call some billionaire asshole's sports team is meaningless. So by all means spout off stupid shit about how its totally not racist now and completely miss the entire point.

Hell some of you seem to lack basic thought about this. "Hey guys, you can't change the name, that's the team's history! Oh, but nevermind the history of the term or of the people that it applies to, that doesn't matter! What's more important is the tradition of a sports team and keeping the grand American tradition of treating a people like shit and rubbing their faces in it!"

not to totally discount what this veteran is thinking but:



I mean...yeah.

but history is history, this guy doesn't give an origin for the name, because it really is an insult. As said about 2 dozen times already--this isn't about being PC, it's about not being jackasses.

But, but, but its just about white man's agenda. Oh wait, so you're saying that really is literally what that was about? Damn and so this whole time lupi was being upfront and honest and not a total jackass?
 
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Via

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Bob Costas isn't an idiot.

He's a sharp guy, very smart. I wouldn't call him a buffoon, either.

I'm sure I've read thousands of posts on this subject by now, on many different sites. Why is every argument for keep the "beloved patriot" name colored with such acidic hatred? Is it coming from a place deep within?
 

MiniDoom

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This whole thing's silly. Oklahoma means the same thing and I don't see everyone up in arms to rename the state to something less offensive. Bunch of hypocrisy.
 

BrokenVisage

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Bob Costas isn't an idiot.

He's a sharp guy, very smart. I wouldn't call him a buffoon, either.

I'm sure I've read thousands of posts on this subject by now, on many different sites. Why is every argument for keep the "beloved patriot" name colored with such acidic hatred? Is it coming from a place deep within?

Colored?? COLORED?!?
 

zinfamous

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This whole thing's silly. Oklahoma means the same thing and I don't see everyone up in arms to rename the state to something less offensive. Bunch of hypocrisy.

Chicago means "stinky onion" in the native language.

 

sixone

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but history is history, this guy doesn't give an origin for the name, because it really is an insult. As said about 2 dozen times already--this isn't about being PC, it's about not being jackasses.

Then let history be history. It doesn't have to be the future.

It's a word. Like every word EVER, meanings change over time. Let's change the meaning of this word on purpose, and leave the past in the past.
 
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