[The Reg] Embedded Sytem Win for AMD

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Claims of an embedded system win.

AMD poised to insert chips into Japanese slot machines, collect coins

23 Feb 2016 at 14:20, Chris Williams

AMD is going to reveal a significant customer win within the next few months – in the gambling world.

The California biz, which is hurting bad in the PC and graphics card space, really wants to slot its chips into next-gen arcade-like casino machines and pachinko halls to bring home some much-needed cash.

It's been wanting to do this for a while, but apparently it has made new progress as demand increases for gambling machines with high-end 3D graphics – particularly in Japan. We're told two to three million units are sold a year in this overall market, and AMD is eager to collect some winnings from the sector.

Before that though, it will today tear the wraps off three new sets of G-series x86 system-on-chips: the LX, the third-generation I family, and the third-generation J family.

The G-series is at the low-power end of AMD's embedded processors; the R-series is at the other end, where brute-force performance matters. The two series are aimed at non-traditional IT gear: digital signs, military and aerospace equipment (like Airbus A380 cockpit displays), thin clients, industrial control systems, shopping tills, and yes, gambling machines.

The entry-level LX is pin-compatible with the second-generation G-series chips, and the two third-gen I and J SoCs are pin compatible with the R-series. This is a first for the G-series, we're told.

That means, if all goes according to plan, you should be able to switch the processor on one board for another pin-compatible processor without having to redesign all the electronics: it should be possible to take a machine designed for a second-gen G-series SoC and pop in an LX part instead, and not have to relayout the motherboard – a time consuming and expensive process.

The thinking behind this is to allow AMD's customers to design for themselves a single common hardware platform and then drop in the processors that meet the requirements of the final products the electronics are being packed into. Don't forget these are system-on-chips: so the CPU, GPU and peripheral controllers are all in the same package.

So, for example, a board can have a third-generation J-family part on it and go into a digital sign, or it could have an R-series CPU that's a little more brawny and go into a thin client. This means less hassle designing, documenting, testing, building and selling stuff.

"Pin compatibility is critical to our customers," Scott Aylor, corporate vice president and general manager of AMD Enterprise Solutions, told The Register.

"The embedded market is very fragmented, and our customers want have a single system or platform that can span across multiple products. These boards can also run the same software stack. From a hardware and software perspective, it is a common investment for the customer."

Essentially, x86 performance and software stacks in embedded products without the Wild West ways of the ARM ecosystem.
 

VirtualLarry

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Sounds like good news to me. I welcome any AMD design wins. At long as they can keep them afloat for a bit longer.
 

USER8000

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Wait, this is AMD's big semicustom gaming win? D:

If you think of all those machines in every pub,casino and holiday park in Europe,US and UK,yeah that's a lot of machines!!
 
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Well, the article itself said 2 to 3 million units per year. Not clear if that is Japan only or the entire market. If that number is correct, it seems like a drop in the bucket compared to PC or console sales.
 

MrTeal

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Well, the article itself said 2 to 3 million units per year. Not clear if that is Japan only or the entire market. If that number is correct, it seems like a drop in the bucket compared to PC or console sales.

It's been 2 1/4 years since the XBOne launched and it's sold ~20M units in total, so while 2 to 3 million units isn't going to move as much as the consoles it's still a pretty significant figure. Who knows what kind of margins AMD might be getting on these chips though.
 
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It's been 2 1/4 years since the XBOne launched and it's sold ~20M units in total, so while 2 to 3 million units isn't going to move as much as the consoles it's still a pretty significant figure. Who knows what kind of margins AMD might be getting on these chips though.

Yea, but the article said the 2 to 3 million in the "overall market", not that AMD is selling that many chips. And isnt the PC market still something like 50 million per quarter?
 

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It's been 2 1/4 years since the XBOne launched and it's sold ~20M units in total, so while 2 to 3 million units isn't going to move as much as the consoles it's still a pretty significant figure. Who knows what kind of margins AMD might be getting on these chips though.

EA estimates 55million Xbox1 and PS4's sold world wide, so yeah every bit helps but really as we all know it all comes down to Zen.....

that said form what i can dig up about Zen and from what i know of bulldozers failings (not just bulldozer suxxors) i like what i see form Zen, but we will just have to wait and see.
 

dark zero

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Decent deal in bad times. Well, they still can survive as VIA for the moment. Wondering if Zen can save AMD. If that save them, they can choose moving to ARM where they can have a massive advantage if they follow the VIA hybrid project (X86 + ARM)
 

mrmt

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If El-reg numbers are correct then we should be talking about 40-60 million per year and with very low gross margins. This is small even by AMD standards.
 
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