The Reusable Toilet Wipe

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Amused

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Apr 14, 2001
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Funny how it's only tree crops they cry about.

Where are the corn huggers dammit?

The trees used for paper come from tree FARMS. They love to make you think they come from old growth forests and all sorts of woodland creatures are killed in the process but that's just not true.

Sorry, but I will not use sandpaper on my ass to appease misguided tree huggers.
 

Codewiz

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Well I am really weird. I moved to using baby wipes. Clean refreshing feeling and it usually only takes one wipes to clean it up perfectly. I have no idea the environmental impact but I use a lot less material than when I used toilet paper. I don't really care if it is more detrimental because it is just so much nicer
 

Modelworks

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Wood for paper comes mainly from tree farms as others have said. I live in an area that has many areas that are/have been logged, they cut the trees in the same areas about every 20 years. Replant with pine trees and the process repeats.
Had a friend that worked at International Paper who gave me the rundown on what they process. Wood starts with the coarsest forms like cardboard boxes and works its way down to the thinner finer materials .Most toilet paper companies use recycled cardboard and paper not wood because it is cheaper than processing wood.

Virgin growth wood is too valuable to be used for paper . It is used in furniture, building, flooring.
 

Red Squirrel

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personally think I could get used to using a bidget. The only real reason I would not have one in my house is because people would think it's weird. But imagine if all of America and Canada alone would switch to those the positive impact it would have. Probably even better for the butt. Less friction.
 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: ggnl
how does 'made from recycled paper' translate to 'reusable'?

It doesn't. The OP's topic title is misleading.

The article makes a good point. There is nothing wrong with using recycled paper to make toilet paper and there is no good reason why we can't start using more ecologically friendly toilet paper in this country.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: ggnl
how does 'made from recycled paper' translate to 'reusable'?

It doesn't. The OP's topic title is misleading.

The article makes a good point. There is nothing wrong with using recycled paper to make toilet paper and there is no good reason why we can't start using more ecologically friendly toilet paper in this country.

The wood used for TP comes from renewable tree farms.

Recycled TP is rough and abrasive.

Not only do I fail to see how TP is harmful to the ecology, but I fail to see any benefit from using recycling to make the product.

Trees are the ONLY consumable, renewable resource crop that people cry about when harvested. WHY???
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Modelworks
Wood for paper comes mainly from tree farms as others have said. I live in an area that has many areas that are/have been logged, they cut the trees in the same areas about every 20 years. Replant with pine trees and the process repeats.
Had a friend that worked at International Paper who gave me the rundown on what they process. Wood starts with the coarsest forms like cardboard boxes and works its way down to the thinner finer materials .Most toilet paper companies use recycled cardboard and paper not wood because it is cheaper than processing wood.

Virgin growth wood is too valuable to be used for paper . It is used in furniture, building, flooring.

Now see, this is a perfect example of how the ecologists in the article try to mislead people.

Wood from tree farms is VIRGIN wood in that it is not recycled or previously used. ANY pulp coming directly from a tree is VIRGIN. Pulp coming from recycled paper is not virgin.

But they use that term, "virgin" to make people think of old growth forests rather than renewable tree farms.

Crying about TP coming from tree farms is like crying over corn coming from corn farms. It's ABSURD.
 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: ggnl
how does 'made from recycled paper' translate to 'reusable'?

It doesn't. The OP's topic title is misleading.

The article makes a good point. There is nothing wrong with using recycled paper to make toilet paper and there is no good reason why we can't start using more ecologically friendly toilet paper in this country.

The wood used for TP comes from renewable tree farms.

Recycled TP is rough and abrasive.

Not only do I fail to see how TP is harmful to the ecology, but I fail to see any benefit from using recycling to make the product.

Trees are the ONLY consumable, renewable resource crop that people cry about when harvested. WHY???

You know this as fact? I'd like to see some proof.
 

ja1484

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I'm so sick of this ecofad bullshit.

People are really so desperate for a purpose in their lives that they need to pretend they're trying to save the earth? Move out of suburbia, eat your children, and live in a mud hut in the woods with a rifle for a few years. Need to harden the hell up.
 

foghorn67

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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: ggnl
how does 'made from recycled paper' translate to 'reusable'?

It doesn't. The OP's topic title is misleading.

The article makes a good point. There is nothing wrong with using recycled paper to make toilet paper and there is no good reason why we can't start using more ecologically friendly toilet paper in this country.

The wood used for TP comes from renewable tree farms.

Recycled TP is rough and abrasive.

Not only do I fail to see how TP is harmful to the ecology, but I fail to see any benefit from using recycling to make the product.

Trees are the ONLY consumable, renewable resource crop that people cry about when harvested. WHY???

You know this as fact? I'd like to see some proof.

Umm, it's common knowledge.
It's like asking for proof on the moon being round and in space.
 

nerp

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Originally posted by: foghorn67
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: ggnl
how does 'made from recycled paper' translate to 'reusable'?

It doesn't. The OP's topic title is misleading.

The article makes a good point. There is nothing wrong with using recycled paper to make toilet paper and there is no good reason why we can't start using more ecologically friendly toilet paper in this country.

The wood used for TP comes from renewable tree farms.

Recycled TP is rough and abrasive.

Not only do I fail to see how TP is harmful to the ecology, but I fail to see any benefit from using recycling to make the product.

Trees are the ONLY consumable, renewable resource crop that people cry about when harvested. WHY???

You know this as fact? I'd like to see some proof.

Umm, it's common knowledge.
It's like asking for proof on the moon being round and in space.

Your two sentences there aren't proof, FWIW.

 

RapidSnail

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Apr 28, 2006
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Originally posted by: nerp
Originally posted by: foghorn67
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: ggnl
how does 'made from recycled paper' translate to 'reusable'?

It doesn't. The OP's topic title is misleading.

The article makes a good point. There is nothing wrong with using recycled paper to make toilet paper and there is no good reason why we can't start using more ecologically friendly toilet paper in this country.

The wood used for TP comes from renewable tree farms.

Recycled TP is rough and abrasive.

Not only do I fail to see how TP is harmful to the ecology, but I fail to see any benefit from using recycling to make the product.

Trees are the ONLY consumable, renewable resource crop that people cry about when harvested. WHY???

You know this as fact? I'd like to see some proof.

Umm, it's common knowledge.
It's like asking for proof on the moon being round and in space.

Your two sentences there aren't proof, FWIW.

 

Squisher

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Aug 17, 2000
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The females in my household have such a dreaded fear of breakthrough that they use an inordinately large amount of paper and clog the toilets with regularity.

We visited this topic last night with me doing a reenactment of someone wrapping their hand up to their elbow. The discussion didn't end well.

I have to feel there is room for improvement.

 

Eli

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Interesting, I wouldn't have thought toilet paper was made from trees anymore. That sucks.

Maybe I'll start looking for a greener alternative..
 

lxskllr

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Marcal uses a fairly high post consumer paper content. This is the old style single ply paper, which is my preference. They're also a independent family owned business which wins big points for me.

http://www.marcalpaper.com/

 

Eli

Super Moderator | Elite Member
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: Codewiz
Well I am really weird. I moved to using baby wipes. Clean refreshing feeling and it usually only takes one wipes to clean it up perfectly. I have no idea the environmental impact but I use a lot less material than when I used toilet paper. I don't really care if it is more detrimental because it is just so much nicer

I use baby wipes too, but using them from the beginning is silly. Toilet paper is cheaper and does a good job of initial cleaning.

Although, if it really only takes one... I'm not so lucky in that regards. lol
 

Amused

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Apr 14, 2001
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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: ggnl
how does 'made from recycled paper' translate to 'reusable'?

It doesn't. The OP's topic title is misleading.

The article makes a good point. There is nothing wrong with using recycled paper to make toilet paper and there is no good reason why we can't start using more ecologically friendly toilet paper in this country.

The wood used for TP comes from renewable tree farms.

Recycled TP is rough and abrasive.

Not only do I fail to see how TP is harmful to the ecology, but I fail to see any benefit from using recycling to make the product.

Trees are the ONLY consumable, renewable resource crop that people cry about when harvested. WHY???

You know this as fact? I'd like to see some proof.

So let me see, you made a decision on something without even knowing where the material comes from?

Wow...

Google tree farms +paper to find out that the vast majority of wood going to paper pulp comes from tree farm lands. The minority that comes from old growth is actually leftovers from timber harvesting (old growth makes for the best large timber, tree farms makes for the best small timber and pulp.

It would be absolutely silly to use large, old growth trees for pulp when solid wood is in such demand and sells for so much more.

Trees are a renewable farmed resource, people. Don' let alarmist activists mislead you into tearing your asshole to shreds with rough recycled TP for no good reason.

Here's one that explains very simply how paper is made and where the wood comes from:

http://www.tappi.org/paperu/al...ut_paper/paperMade.htm

 
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