The ridiculousness of background checks.

[amdforever2]

I was given a job offer by a company. Two days before scheduled start they say they are halting the process because I "have burglary on my rap sheet".

I was arrested once, and fingerprinted and somehow the word burglary got thrown on there.

I was released, never charged, never prosecuted.

The company says I must prove to them I was never prosecuted. I call the local municipal court, they just say "uh, you were released by police that's all it says. no, we can't write a letter for you. kthx."


I go to the police station. I spend like $20 buying various reports of myself until I get one that shows every arrest, every charge, ever put against me.

All the traffic tickets say GUILTY or PLEAD TO LESSER CHARGE.

The burglary entry, the only one found, doesn't say GUILTY or PLEAD TO LESSER CHARGE or anything except RELEASED BY POLICE.

That's it, that's all.

I faxed this paper to the company. They want to investigate more. There's nothing to investigate! There is no paper to find! There's nothing! Apparently I'm supposed to get a presidential pardon or something for a charge that never came to pass!

This is ridiculous.

The offer letter says I'm supposed to start tomorrow.

I think I'm going to go in, give local HR the arrest record, and demand they honor the offer I accepted in good faith.

I already quit my current job.
Wiki says it is illegal to refuse to hire or retract offer based on an arrest record.


Thoughts on what I should do?

 

[Regs]

Wow, what bull crap that they even have a arrest on your record that you were not even found guilty for.

 

[Nohr]

Rob the place, show them you mean business.

 

[Zeeky Boogy Doog]

Go in tomorrow, steal something, then tell them to put that on your record!

 

[MX2]

STOP BREAKING THE LAW ASSHOLE!

j/k

 

[altonb1]

My thoughts? You are probably screwed. Look for a new job...

 

[Regs]

Originally posted by: MX2times
STOP BREAKING THE LAW ASSHOLE!

j/k

lol. Good movie.

 

[amdforever2]

I will not be screwed. I will fight them to my very last breath!

They could say they are retracting their offer because of some other reason, if they were willing to break the law.

Unfortunately for them their offer letter indicates they will only retract if:

I fail drug test
I do not pass criminal background


Passing criminal background means no CONVICTIONS.

 

[amdforever2]

DOUBLEPOST NONSENSE

 

[LikeLinus]

Originally posted by: amdforever2
I was given a job offer by a company. Two days before scheduled start they say they are halting the process because I "have burglary on my rap sheet".

I was arrested once, and fingerprinted and somehow the word burglary got thrown on there.

I was released, never charged, never prosecuted.

The company says I must prove to them I was never prosecuted. I call the local municipal court, they just say "uh, you were released by police that's all it says. no, we can't write a letter for you. kthx."


I go to the police station. I spend like $20 buying various reports of myself until I get one that shows every arrest, every charge, ever put against me.

All the traffic tickets say GUILTY or PLEAD TO LESSER CHARGE.

The burglary entry, the only one found, doesn't say GUILTY or PLEAD TO LESSER CHARGE or anything except RELEASED BY POLICE.

That's it, that's all.

I faxed this paper to the company. They want to investigate more. There's nothing to investigate! There is no paper to find! There's nothing! Apparently I'm supposed to get a presidential pardon or something for a charge that never came to pass!

This is ridiculous.

The offer letter says I'm supposed to start tomorrow.

I think I'm going to go in, give local HR the arrest record, and demand they honor the offer I accepted in good faith.

I already quit my current job.
Wiki says it is illegal to refuse to hire or retract offer based on an arrest record.


Thoughts on what I should do?

I hope to god you don't believe everything that Wiki says. It all depends on the state you live in. Some states have the right to hire/fire as they see fit. As long as they are not discriminating against anyone, they've done nothing illegal.

 

[GeekDrew]

Some companies, in particular financial companies, like to investigate quite a bit.

Also, Wiki may say something, but does Wiki specify what jurisdiction it covers?

If they don't hire you, then fight if you want. But if you pick a fight while they're still investigating, even if they still intend to hire you, I think you'll end up hurting yourself. If I were HR, I'd dig for any loophole I could find to not hire you, if you pick a fight while we're investigating.

 

[amdforever2]

Even if my laws didn't favor my position, their very own offer letter does.


It says they retract only in the event of drug test failure or found conviction.

 

[LikeLinus]

Originally posted by: amdforever2
Even if my laws didn't favor my position, their very own offer letter does.


It says they retract only in the event of drug test failure or found conviction.

Dude, you keep changing what it says. Does it say "found convictions" or "passing a background check". What is the verbage exactly.

 

[amdforever2]

Something to the effect of all background checks, company procedures, etc.


However, from my conversations thus far with the investigators, a conviction is what they are looking for. When they are "satisifed" none exists, they will clear me.

 

[Turkish]

Damn...

I hope everything turns out ok man.

What I am about to tell you is extremely stupid and I feel bad about it but oh well, I was only 15.5 at the time. I came to the U.S. as a High School exchange student. I was living with an American host family. So one night, me and my senior friends drink too much, and I *borrowed* my host family's Chevy Camaro SS and drove it across the state :Q An off-duty cop spotted me, later on I got pulled over and my host family was called over. They were nice and forgave me I am glad no records of such thing exist on my background

 

[kinev]

Originally posted by: Nohr
Rob the place, show them you mean business.

Oh, man. I'm still chuckling.

 

[LikeLinus]

The sad thing is you already quit your job before having the other secured. Huge lessoned learned.

The company does have the right to research it though. You faxing them a paper doesn't mean jack. They have their own avenues to investigate this stuff.

Question, what were you arrested for to begin with? Why were you arrested and then released? That shouldn't even be on your record. If it really is "nothing", then you should seek to have it expunged from your record.

 

[GroundZero]

Originally posted by: amdforever2
I will not be screwed. I will fight them to my very last breath!

They could say they are retracting their offer because of some other reason, if they were willing to break the law.

Unfortunately for them their offer letter indicates they will only retract if:

I fail drug test
I do not pass criminal background


Passing criminal background means no CONVICTIONS.

THEY SEEM TO BE IN THE RIGHT SO FAR, AS YOU PROBABLY TOLD THEM YOU HAD NO CRIMINAL PAST, AND THEN THEY CHECK AND THIS IS ON YOUR RECORD.
THAT IS GROUNDS FOR NOT HIRING YOU RIGHT THERE FOR LYING ON YOUR RESUME.
IF YOU CAN PROVE NO CONVICTION, THEN THEY WILL PROBABLY HIRE YOU. ALTHOUGH I WOULD THINK TWICE ABOUT OFFERING A FVCKING THIEF, CONVICTION OR NOT...
WHAT DID YOU STEAL/BREAK INTO? DID SOMEONE JUST NOT PRESS CHARGES? WHY WERE YOU ARRESTED FOR THIS TO START WITH IF YOU ARE SO FREAKING INNOCENT?

SOUNDS LIKE THERE IS A WHOLE LOT MORE TO YOUR STORY THAN YOU ARE LETTING ON...

 

[Turkish]

Originally posted by: GroundZero

Originally posted by: amdforever2
I will not be screwed. I will fight them to my very last breath!

They could say they are retracting their offer because of some other reason, if they were willing to break the law.

Unfortunately for them their offer letter indicates they will only retract if:

I fail drug test
I do not pass criminal background


Passing criminal background means no CONVICTIONS.

THEY SEEM TO BE IN THE RIGHT SO FAR, AS YOU PROBABLY TOLD THEM YOU HAD NO CRIMINAL PAST, AND THEN THEY CHECK AND THIS IS ON YOUR RECORD.
THAT IS GROUNDS FOR NOT HIRING YOU RIGHT THERE FOR LYING ON YOUR RESUME.
IF YOU CAN PROVE NO CONVICTION, THEN THEY WILL PROBABLY HIRE YOU. ALTHOUGH I WOULD THINK TWICE ABOUT OFFERING A FVCKING THIEF, CONVICTION OR NOT...
WHAT DID YOU STEAL/BREAK INTO? DID SOMEONE JUST NOT PRESS CHARGES? WHY WERE YOU ARRESTED FOR THIS TO START WITH IF YOU ARE SO FREAKING INNOCENT?

SOUNDS LIKE THERE IS A WHOLE LOT MORE TO YOUR STORY THAN YOU ARE LETTING ON...

Jesus CAPS!

 

[simms]

Originally posted by: GroundZero

Originally posted by: amdforever2
I will not be screwed. I will fight them to my very last breath!

They could say they are retracting their offer because of some other reason, if they were willing to break the law.

Unfortunately for them their offer letter indicates they will only retract if:

I fail drug test
I do not pass criminal background


Passing criminal background means no CONVICTIONS.

THEY SEEM TO BE IN THE RIGHT SO FAR, AS YOU PROBABLY TOLD THEM YOU HAD NO CRIMINAL PAST, AND THEN THEY CHECK AND THIS IS ON YOUR RECORD.
THAT IS GROUNDS FOR NOT HIRING YOU RIGHT THERE FOR LYING ON YOUR RESUME.
IF YOU CAN PROVE NO CONVICTION, THEN THEY WILL PROBABLY HIRE YOU. ALTHOUGH I WOULD THINK TWICE ABOUT OFFERING A FVCKING THIEF, CONVICTION OR NOT...
WHAT DID YOU STEAL/BREAK INTO? DID SOMEONE JUST NOT PRESS CHARGES? WHY WERE YOU ARRESTED FOR THIS TO START WITH IF YOU ARE SO FREAKING INNOCENT?

SOUNDS LIKE THERE IS A WHOLE LOT MORE TO YOUR STORY THAN YOU ARE LETTING ON...

Your points would be much better in lowercase.

 

[GroundZero]

caps nazis!

freaking caps lock was stuck

happy now?

 

[amdforever2]

The application says I am not required to list sealed records. It does not ask me to list arrests.


Ever heard of innocent until proven guilty b*tch?



I wasn't proven guilty, that means innocent, that means no criminal past.

 

[Yossarian]

I guess you'll believe them the next time they say "this will go down in your permanent record". Seriously though that sucks. Fight to the death.

 

[hypn0tik]

Originally posted by: GroundZero

Originally posted by: amdforever2
I will not be screwed. I will fight them to my very last breath!

They could say they are retracting their offer because of some other reason, if they were willing to break the law.

Unfortunately for them their offer letter indicates they will only retract if:

I fail drug test
I do not pass criminal background


Passing criminal background means no CONVICTIONS.

THEY SEEM TO BE IN THE RIGHT SO FAR, AS YOU PROBABLY TOLD THEM YOU HAD NO CRIMINAL PAST, AND THEN THEY CHECK AND THIS IS ON YOUR RECORD.
THAT IS GROUNDS FOR NOT HIRING YOU RIGHT THERE FOR LYING ON YOUR RESUME.
IF YOU CAN PROVE NO CONVICTION, THEN THEY WILL PROBABLY HIRE YOU. ALTHOUGH I WOULD THINK TWICE ABOUT OFFERING A FVCKING THIEF, CONVICTION OR NOT...
WHAT DID YOU STEAL/BREAK INTO? DID SOMEONE JUST NOT PRESS CHARGES? WHY WERE YOU ARRESTED FOR THIS TO START WITH IF YOU ARE SO FREAKING INNOCENT?

SOUNDS LIKE THERE IS A WHOLE LOT MORE TO YOUR STORY THAN YOU ARE LETTING ON...

HOLY MOTHER ******. ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS MOVE YOUR PINKY 7/16 OF A ****** INCH TO PREVENT COMING OFF AS A RETARD.

 

[LikeLinus]

Originally posted by: amdforever2
The application says I am not required to list sealed records. It does not ask me to list arrests.


Ever heard of innocent until proven guilty b*tch?



I wasn't proven guilty, that means innocent, that means no criminal past.

Ever heard of ITS NOT SEALED if it's showing up on your record b1tch?

I think we're all still wondering what happened. Not sure why you're avoiding it....

You're definitely an eThug. Going to force them to hire you. You've been arrested for suspicion of burglary.

I can?t think of ANY reason they wouldn?t want to hire you now!

Might give the Waffle House a call and ask for your job back.