The rumored 5.1 GHz Xeon quad E5-2602 V4?

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witeken

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I seriously doubt there is a 5.1GHz Broadwell-E SKU out there. Much more likely that there are cherry-picked 5.1GHz Skylake Xeon E3s though.

With Skylake-X/Kaby Lake-X and 14nm+, such SKUs become more feasible, IMO.
Let's say Intel makes 100 million chips per year. So now if you go 5 or 6 sigma from the mean, wouldn't you be able to get some pretty decent chips ?
 
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Well, i was insisted it does exist, but the production process for it basically excludes the existence of any 5/4.9/4.8/4.7 SKUs.

Have you seen these SKUs or heard about them first hand? If so, then I stand corrected.

A 5.1GHz SKU must be VERY hard to build, but if they exist...nice
 

crashtech

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The existence of black budgets can't be denied; it's unlikely that we will know the extent of the NSA's purchasing power with Intel any time soon. For all we know, NSA could be buying up all the unlocked Xeons that bin over a certain speed.
 

witeken

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The existence of black budgets can't be denied; it's unlikely that we will know the extent of the NSA's purchasing power with Intel any time soon. For all we know, NSA could be buying up all the unlocked Xeons that bin over a certain speed.
And don't forget the secret blocks of logic that are in all chips but only unlocked for certain companies who ordered them .
 

crashtech

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And don't forget the secret blocks of logic that are in all chips but only unlocked for certain companies who ordered them .
I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but giving the NSA dibs on chips that bin well does not really seem all that far-fetched, on the contrary it makes excellent business sense. Think of the NSA as the ultimate enthusiast, with pockets so deep you can't see the bottom.
 

superstition

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I'm not a conspiracy theorist
Then you don't follow business and government much. Conspiracy is the point of profit-seeking. It takes manipulation to convince people to pay more for something than what it's worth. Morality is cost-benefit ratio.
 

crashtech

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Then you don't follow business and government much. Conspiracy is the point of profit-seeking. It takes manipulation to convince people to pay more for something than what it's worth. Morality is cost-benefit ratio.
Oh, please, one can keep an open mind without being sucked down the rabbit hole. It's a delicate balance that seems to escape the more sensitive among us. It's absurdly easy to convince people to pay more for things than they are worth, if this was untrue, I would not be fielding a dozen cold sales calls a day at my place of business.
 

superstition

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Oh, please, one can keep an open mind without being sucked down the rabbit hole. It's a delicate balance that seems to escape the more sensitive among us.
When one turns on cable television to a National Geographic documentary about how an agent was thrown out of a building to prevent him from exposing horrible practices the rabbit hole isn't a hole. It's just the bottom line.

That his family was paid money is enough confirmation, along with stuff like Tuskegee.

If governments want us to believe they're doing only the best they possibly can they can stop spying on us and simultaneously being outraged over "classified" e-mail. E-mail, remember, is what Wired writers and the rest of the tech press have lectured regular people about — that regular people should assume that anything they write in e-mail will be read by everyone, forever — that there's no expectation of privacy. They can stop using nationalism as an excuse, in a world of globalized finance, to keep knowledge out of our hands so they can manipulate us. Sorry, but being "embarrassed" isn't reason enough to hide what one is doing as an ostensible representative. When the Obama/Clinton administration pressures the president of Haiti to exempt Levi-Strauss and Hanes from a paltry minimum wage increase we shouldn't need Wikileaks to know that.

It's absurdly easy to convince people to pay more for things than they are worth, if this was untrue, I would not be fielding a dozen cold sales calls a day at my place of business.
Have you purchased products from spam e-mail? No? Would you ever? No?

But some do. That's not the point. It's a red herring.

Check out Smedley Butler's "War is a Racket".

Smedley Butler said:
Let the workers in these plants get the same wages -- all the workers, all presidents, all executives, all directors, all managers, all bankers -- yes, and all generals and all admirals and all officers and all politicians and all government office holders -- everyone in the nation be restricted to a total monthly income not to exceed that paid to the soldier in the trenches!

Let all these kings and tycoons and masters of business and all those workers in industry and all our senators and governors and majors pay half of their monthly $30 wage to their families and pay war risk insurance and buy Liberty Bonds.

Why shouldn't they?

They aren't running any risk of being killed or of having their bodies mangled or their minds shattered. They aren't sleeping in muddy trenches. They aren't hungry. The soldiers are!
Just as soon as it becomes a national outrage for our e-mails to be stolen, sent to the NSA by Yahoo.
 
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KTE

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In other news: apparently NSA programmers are so bad at producing well-threaded code and/or programming cluster environments that this made more sense than buying off-the-shelf 8-core CPUs at half the clockspeed for a couple hundred bucks each.
Have you seen what current gov departments actually pay? Not CAN, but ARE DOING.

Paying 20k/month rent for decades, for one standard system, no sweat...

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