Well, he is holding the server version, which may be bigger than the HEDT version?Have you guys seen the size of this thing?
http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/am...essors-16-cores-and-32-threads-confirmed.html
It's as big as the palm of your hand! I know they originally designed this with workstations in mind but damn, that thing is huge
If AMD can deliver this at a reasonable price point I may be tempted to pick it up. But as I only do a moderate amount of video/photo editing I would have to see a quite significant bump in performance at a not break the bank price to move up from my R7 1700 build.
Well, he is holding the server version, which may be bigger than the HEDT version?
It will be the same package size, as there are a LOT of pins. And that pretty much determines the area needed.Well, he is holding the server version, which may be bigger than the HEDT version?
I don't think $799 is ultra-premium enough. Maybe $1000+.
$500-550?! Stop joking around. There's only 12 & 16-core ThreadRipper. Everything else you think you know are faked leakes.
Have you guys seen the size of this thing?
SP3 is indeed a massive package. 4411mm² of surface area (AM4 is 1600mm²)
http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-announces-threadripper-processors-16-cores-and-32-threads-confirmed.htmll
It still doesn't fully explain why Ryzen Pro even exists
Did AMD state that Ryzen Threadripper is the actual branding of the CPU?
If so what about a Pro version. They still going to stick to the name Threadripper?
Stilt confirmed that the cores+cache combination on each CCX have to be identical on both die. So only really 12 and 16 make sense. You could do 8 as well in theory.
Okay this might answer some questions I missed earlier for a different thread. It still doesn't fully explain why Ryzen Pro even exists if my next question is answered the way I think it will be now. I hate the fact that I missed a good portion of the stream.
Did AMD state that Ryzen Threadripper is the actual branding of the CPU? Or did they just put it up there as a codename for this package?
If so what about a Pro version. They still going to stick to the name Threadripper? I can see it now New Dell Precision Workstation offer the brand new 16 core AMD Ryzen Threadripper Pro. It's the CPU that goes to work in a tuxedo T-shirt. It's awesome but not quite EPYC.
Looks like a huge LGA socket.It will be the same package size, as there are a LOT of pins. And that pretty much determines the area needed.
No doubt, there will always be special scenarios like that, but I think we know it can be overcome with software that isolates latency-sensitive functions to a single CCX or better yet - Threadripper uses improved hardware over standard Ryzen (doubtful).But sure, it's a subset of a subset essentially.
That was in the quote that I quoted. I was just wondering if they specified that it was the actual Product name like the did with EPYC or if they were still using the code name.
Well if that is the case then it makes some of the Ryzen Pro stuff more understandable (though not less stupid). I am with you though, instead of just tossing Extreme onto something, just give an actual brand name that screams "buy me because I so much more awesome than my boring competitor". Threadripper is both the most (or 2nd haven't decided if EPYC is more or less) childish and most awesome name you could give to a CPU.I anticipate seeing a laser-engraved "Threadripper" on a IHS in the near future... yes it's cheesy. Yes I like it.
I would like to think they would but I should note that it can't be a Ripper of Threads if it's only got 8 cores.What about people that need a lot of IO and memory, but not as much processing power? An 8 core, quad channel, 44 PCIe lane system.
We get 8, 12 and 16 core options as feasible. They should still make more than selling 4 core 1400 and 1500X die.
Supposedly the HEDT version has the same number of pins as the server version, albeit hooked up differently, so I would guess the package size is in the same general ballpark.
It will be the same package size, as there are a LOT of pins. And that pretty much determines the area needed.
Yeah I got that later. Utterly pointless and sad. The funny part is they only had one link to one manufacturer with one system and that doesn't exist on their system any more. I swear it might just turn out that both this and Bristol Ridge might be some messed up requirement of HP's. I wouldn't put it past them.Your answer about the Pro CPUs is here http://www.amd.com/en-us/solutions/pro
I always got a little wierded out by that because for the longest time Snowy Owl was rumored to be a Compute APU for servers and workstations (2xRR). So much so I assumed the Threadripper rumors were just a different CPU for that socket and would be the actual HDET CPU. It's been hard to keep up with the evolution of the rumors the last couple weeks.It's the Branding, not the codename, that is Snowly Owl. Source: http://i.imgur.com/DZMMtcc.jpg
That I am not sure about though it might not matter if Pro means the little nothing it does. Because the slide for TR specifies it as a ultra-premium DESKTOP SYSTEM. It also references HEDT specifically which again hasn't allowed Intel to sell their X79-X199 in the workstation market. They go straight from 4c i7's to Xeon's.They haven't talked about a Pro version but I think TR is a Pro version by itself. As such we won't see a EPYC Pro because of the same reason. HEDT is a Pro market. It would be an oxymoron.
No doubt, there will always be special scenarios like that, but I think we know it can be overcome with software that isolates latency-sensitive functions to a single CCX or better yet - Threadripper uses improved hardware over standard Ryzen (doubtful).
If it's $799, it's most definitely going in my rig. I'm expecting the top CPU to go for $999. I'm likely going to pick up a 12/14 core CPU if the performance is good.Actually $799 seems more realistic now.