The issue being the ridiculous price variability and sloppy configurations of X299 motherboards. Prices range anywhere from $258-$489. At the low range :
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813144058
If Threadripper boards come in under $258 and have a upper lower ceiling, that is what would be of note.
I do imagine a $200 or even lower threadripper motherboard (double the lower avg. price of a Ryzen 8) board.
Costs add up and AMD is doing well in K.I.S.S.
Skylake is all over the place.
A good number of the Thread-ripper boards look similar to the lower cost Skylake X board found here for $258 :So far, the motherboards that have been previewed for TR have been pretty high end. As with x299 motherboards, I expect that there are a whole range of feature sets, typically offered at different price points. So, Skylake isn't all over the place - it's just a standard range of offerings. AMD's motherboard partners will not go with KISS - they are in it to make money.
OK, so does anybody have any real dates for TR motherboards and CPU's ? Last I heard was Aug.
A good number of the Thread-ripper boards look similar to the lower cost Skylake X board found here for $258 :
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813144058
You can get Ryzen Motherboards for $100. Ryzen motherboards are considerably cheaper than the equivalent Intel boards in its class.
I expect the same for Thread-ripper vs Skylake X. ($200-$400 Threadripper) vs. ($258-$489 Intel) and maybe even cheaper. Given what Ryzen boards cost, that's not unreasonable. Two ryzen boards would cost ~$200. I'm sure they're able to lay some more traces, m2 slots, and dimm slots for far cheaper than two mother boards. We'll see soon.
Pick a solid Mobo - like the Taichi X370. Approximately $200 (when not on sale). Now you are adding a support for a 16 core CPU, many more PCIe lane, quad channel memory (8 slots probably), much more I/O, etc. Somebody will sell a budget board to you, but the majority are going to be on the expensive side. AMD isn't selling you a motherboard - ASUS, MSI, Gigabyte and Asrock are, and they are trying to make a decent profit.
Ok. But at 4.3Ghz, it still within stock speeds. What the guru3d review has shown is that it takes a beefy high end cooler to run the 7900x at its max stock turbo speeds.Two cores running at 4.5ghz cannot produce more heat than 10 cores running at 4.3ghz.
I don't know. AMDs socket is larger and there maybe a feeling that they have to use the IO. I just get the feeling that the low end TR boards will look more like the mid level or higher boards for x299. TR is also going to a much smaller volume seller than SL-X.Good point. I wasn't even aware of the flashier more expensive Ryzen boards as people don't talk about them much and I have done enough builds in my life to know better than to flush money down the toilet on motherboard flare. There will no doubt be expensive flashier boards with RGB color strips and other such silliness. The point was to reflect that Intel boards tend to be expensive in general vs. AMD as proven by the comparable board. I should know.. All of my builds have been Intel based. The mainstream Ryzen boards run $100 or so. The flashier boards aren't even mentioned by mainstream crowds. A reasonable Skylake X299 board costs $258 with all the bells and whistles. There's no reason a Thread-ripper motherboard won't cost $258 or less. I'm sure there will be $400 boards as there are $489 X299 intel boards. The focus is on there being reasonably priced and featured mainstream AMD thread-ripper boards which are proven (see Ryzen) to be cheaper than Intel boards. We have a month to see what the case will be.
I believe it's in August. And yeah I hope their release is a lot better than the disaster that is x299, especially with the recent vram issues.When does Threadripper release? I really hope AMD has an ace up their sleeve for enthusiasts.
Am thinking (read: i'm getting it) about a 1976X myself.. 1800X clocks, more lanes, quad band; and an extra 4 cores to boot.
Now truth be told i don't need 12 cores, but that's how it's gonna be. Don't want lower clocks (compared to the 1800X) for any reason and i think that's the only one mirroring those, all the others clock lower.
If i do it, am going with ASRock this time around. They do great with their AMD mobos, not sure why (990FX Extreme 9, X370 Taichi, etc).
Any of you guys has any advice, such as "you're a casual (i am), why would you buy an R9?", i'd be happy to read them. Want to give some money to AMD, feel like they've earned it
There is no 1976x that we know of
Nope the best idea we have is that there is at least 2 configurations and likely 2 variations per config. That is all that is certain. Hell look at Epic. There were a dozens of lineup configurations for months. It wasn't till about a week before the announcement the 8 core one showed up (which I doubted that article specifically because it listed that chip).Seriously?
That chart has been.. everywhere since then. Do you..we.. have any info on the actual lineup? And thanks for informing me btw
edit: It occurs to me that, unwittingly, i too have acted as a parrot; have linked that very chart in another forum myself. Nice.
A 3 tier 12c offering is nice and still possible. But as far as most are concerned that AMD has decided against across all product lines unbalanced CCX configuration. That alone negates the models they suggested because it includes 10 and 14 core variations.Thanks guys, needed the grounding. Should have been wary, seeing 3 12core variations, as opposed to just two for all others.
Had foolishly thought that being the mid product, they figured it would attract the most, so focused the binning there ^^
(one must above all be scientific)
If it supports eatx then you should be good to go. Basically if you have room between the edge of an atx mb and the case structure to work then it should accommodate the new boards. You could break out a tape measure and see where any proposed mb ends at in your case to know for sure where it would sit.Anyone have info on the mobo sizes for threadripper? I hear, given the monstrous socket and features, that most if not all of them are E-ATX. Case manufacturers seem to be using some liberty when they reference E-ATX support. Eye-balling some cases and wondering if there will be any issues with various ATX cases that mention E-ATX support.
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Although true E-ATX is 12 × 13 in (305 × 330 mm) most motherboard manufacturers also refer to motherboards with measurements 12 × 10.1 in (305 × 257 mm), 12 × 10.4 in (305 × 264 mm), 12 × 10.5 in (305 × 267 mm) and 12 × 10.7 in (305 × 272 mm) as E-ATX.
Here's a pic of the Asus Zenith Extreme https://rog.asus.com/articles/maxim...ming-for-amds-monster-ryzen-threadripper-cpu/
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Do like the 10GBe card it'll come with.
Here's a pic of the Asus Zenith Extreme https://rog.asus.com/articles/maxim...ming-for-amds-monster-ryzen-threadripper-cpu/ , no measurements yet,