Maybe AMD should, instead of offering Ryzen 7/Vega bundles, offer Threadripper/Vega bundles. At least they could offer a TR bundle with the water-cooled Vega. Something like $200 off TR 1950 if you get a Vega water-cooled card.
If you can use the 360mm AIOs from Thermaltake or Arctic freeze, I'd probably do that in push pull. Thermaltake is listed and their line, Water 3.0, seems to be the same head, which all should use the twist lock, which is pretty standard. Those would be my go to. Either find a brand that came out (http://www.tweaktown.com/news/58482/arctics-liquid-freezer-ready-ryzen-threadripper/index.html) or look for a brand on the list that only has one line of water cooling AIOs or one that all use the same head.Can somebody tell me what is the best AIO cooler that the TR bracket supports ? My cart is waiting for its last piece.
So I just ordered it all, 1950X threadripper, 4 x 8 gig Gskill 3600, and the X399 Taichi, and the 360 freezer.If you can use the 360mm AIOs from Thermaltake or Arctic freeze, I'd probably do that in push pull. Thermaltake is listed and their line, Water 3.0, seems to be the same head, which all should use the twist lock, which is pretty standard. Those would be my go to. Either find a brand that came out (http://www.tweaktown.com/news/58482/arctics-liquid-freezer-ready-ryzen-threadripper/index.html) or look for a brand on the list that only has one line of water cooling AIOs or one that all use the same head.
I'm waiting for the binned chips, motherboard reviews, and monoblocks. So I may have to buy piecemeal. But, I'll be using some 4133 Trident Z (2 kits of 2x8GB that I've run at 3733 CL14 17 17 36 280 in dual channel) that I already own. If I can't reach speed, I can use nice timings, hopefully...So I just ordered it all, 1950X threadripper, 4 x 8 gig Gskill 3600, and the X399 Taichi, and the 360 freezer.
The 1950X is the binned chip.I'm waiting for the binned chips
I know that Ryzen likes the samsung bdie, and these are those chips. Also, the Taichi supports 3600 (OC) at the max, so I am staying at that. Modding my EATX case for the 360 radiator, it only supports 240 now, but the case is a monster, so I am sure I can cut it larger.I'm waiting for the binned chips, motherboard reviews, and monoblocks. So I may have to buy piecemeal. But, I'll be using some 4133 Trident Z (2 kits of 2x8GB that I've run at 3733 CL14 17 17 36 280 in dual channel) that I already own. If I can't reach speed, I can use nice timings, hopefully...
So I just ordered it all, 1950X threadripper, 4 x 8 gig Gskill 3600, and the X399 Taichi, and the 360 freezer.
Yes, but then binning companies, like silicon lottery and caseking, bin the CPUs to separate voltage needs and OC, so voltage at a multiplier with a set cooling system.The 1950X is the binned chip.
I'm waiting for the binned chips, motherboard reviews, and monoblocks. So I may have to buy piecemeal. But, I'll be using some 4133 Trident Z (2 kits of 2x8GB that I've run at 3733 CL14 17 17 36 280 in dual channel) that I already own. If I can't reach speed, I can use nice timings, hopefully...
That sounds like an excellent build!I know that Ryzen likes the samsung bdie, and these are those chips. Also, the Taichi supports 3600 (OC) at the max, so I am staying at that. Modding my EATX case for the 360 radiator, it only supports 240 now, but the case is a monster, so I am sure I can cut it larger.
And just ordered a Samsung 960 EVO, happy with it in my 1800x build.
I definitely hear you. The ram VRMs may not get cooled through the block. If so, then it is looking for aftermarket coolers for them.Pretty much in the same boat. Waiting for reviews on what board to pick, and will only get something once EK releases a mono or CPU block as I will be having it under custom water as well. Not sure how they are going to do a mono with the way the boards are designed. There are VRM capacitors on the top and to the left with the memory slots in between.
I bet that Intel will be preordering Threadripper 1950X to test the performance themselves.
"IR Digital PWM, 11 Power Phase & Dr. MOS" Thats for the X399Taichi. I just trust its a good one since the AM4 Taichi, its was king I think.I definitely hear you. The ram VRMs may not get cooled through the block. If so, then it is looking for aftermarket coolers for them.
From what I've read, MSI has 13 VRM, making me think 10 + 3. The other boards use 11, making me think 8+3 solutions, with all boards doing 3 ram VRM. Reviews will clear that up, though. But, if I'm correct, it will be cooling the ram VRM that will be left, with the rest cooled with the Mono. They could do full board again to address this, but who knows...
That sounds like an excellent build!
I have a Thermaltake core x9 cube, so enough for 3x480s. Thinking I might get a chiller for this build, though.
That is why TaiChi is up there for me, as is ram support, but I'd still like to see reviews as well."IR Digital PWM, 11 Power Phase & Dr. MOS" Thats for the X399Taichi. I just trust its a good one since the AM4 Taichi, its was king I think.
I was actually meaning a water chiller instead of a SS phase. It costs $900 for a 1600W water chiller that goes to 5C, it costs about $1200 for an SS getting 300W@-30C, which means also getting the custom loop for the GPUs. Also, the water chiller can be put in a nearby closet to dampen the sound, with hoses ran and a pump or two with enough head pressure. Just some of the considerations I have.That will be sick. Have you done a phase change build before?
I will be doing dual loop in mine. 480 for CPU and a 560 for GPU. My case supports upto 560x4 rads if I wanted. Definitely going to be an over the top build
That is why TaiChi is up there for me, as is ram support, but I'd still like to see reviews as well.I was actually meaning a water chiller instead of a SS phase. It costs $900 for a 1600W water chiller that goes to 5C, it costs about $1200 for an SS getting 300W@-30C, which means also getting the custom loop for the GPUs. Also, the water chiller can be put in a nearby closet to dampen the sound, with hoses ran and a pump or two with enough head pressure. Just some of the considerations I have.
Edit: is that a caselabs TX10, THW10, or some Magnus line?
Something very important alongside 4GHz turbo on four cores: actual BIOS settings for enabling NUMA:Tech Report has some interesting quotes: https://techreport.com/review/32319...er-1920x-and-threadripper-1900x-cpus-revealed
"The two active dies on a Threadripper MCM are arranged diagonally on the package, and they're flanked by two dummy dies that provide stability to the large integrated heat spreader that caps off the whole affair. That integrated heat spreader is soldered to the dies beneath for effective heat transfer."
"AMD says it's selecting the best 2% of dies for use in Threadrippers. That means the 1950X will offer 200 MHz of XFR headroom for operation at speeds of up to 4.2 GHz in lightly-threaded workloads. The chip will also be able to boost up to 4 GHz on two cores of each eight-core die."
"Overclockers may also find plenty of potential to be tapped within reasonable voltages as a result of that binning. AMD testing guru James Prior noted that he was able to overclock his own Threadripper 1950X to 4 GHz across all cores using just 1.325V, as opposed to 1.4V for his personal Ryzen 7 1800X."
"For those who'd rather have four channels of memory to pair with eight Ryzen cores—something Ryzen 7 chips can't boast—AMD will offer the previously-undisclosed Threadripper 1900X. This chip will have a 3.8 GHz base clock, a 4 GHz boost clock, and the same 200 MHz of XFR headroom as its brethren."
PC Games Hardware (German) has the whole set of AMD slides:
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Ryzen...s/1900X-Ankuendigung-1234502/galerie/2770468/
It would be interesting to see how it performs, and I hope reviewers would test these aspects thoroughly.Because of Threadripper's two-die layout and its distributed memory controllers, AMD is offering owners two memory operating modes with differing performance characteristics. The distributed mode provides uniform memory access characteristics to the operating system at a higher average latency. Through testing, AMD discovered that some games are sensitive to memory latency, and for the best performance with those titles, the company is offering a "local mode" in firmware that will transform Threadripper into two non-uniform memory access (NUMA) domains. Each of those local domains will run with somewhat lower memory access latency on average.
AMD will also offer another compatibility mode of sorts for Threadripper regarding its active core count. The "Creator Mode" will run every core and thread on the chip normally, and it'll be the out-of-the-box configuration. However, AMD has discovered that not every application will work properly with 32 threads available. For compatibility with those applications, a "Game Mode" will leave both dies active but only eight cores and 16 threads processing work. Memory access in Game mode is automatically switched to the local mode we just discussed, and the active chip will have its local memory pool filled up first before the remote die begins using its memory pool. AMD says it doesn't expect more than a 5% performance delta between games on average in Game Mode, and that most workstation applications won't see any performance benefit from disabling cores at all.
I bet that Intel will be preordering Threadripper