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urvile

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This will be an uphill battle for AMD. Local shop just released TR prices. While the Intel 7900x is priced like msrp $999, TR 1950x and 1920x both are priced roughly $200 higher than msrp meaning it's actually the 1920x going against the 7900x on price...add to that the motherboard costs of TR (Asus Zenith is $650) and the 7900x is the clear winner on performance/$


Where do you live? Here the 7900x is 1499$ and the 1950X is 1499$. If you want to purchase PC hardware in aus make sure you have lube.

I actually seriously considered the 7900x given I am upgrading an existing intel system and I have been very happy with it. The 1920x cost me 1149$ and as I said previously the 7900x is 1499$ and there isn't much difference. There are some though for example AMD haven't gimped the PCI-e lanes on the thread ripper and you know other stuff.
 
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Blockheadfan

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This will be an uphill battle for AMD. Local shop just released TR prices. While the Intel 7900x is priced like msrp $999, TR 1950x and 1920x both are priced roughly $200 higher than msrp meaning it's actually the 1920x going against the 7900x on price...add to that the motherboard costs of TR (Asus Zenith is $650) and the 7900x is the clear winner on performance/$

Not the case where I live, the 7900x is the same cost as the 1950x and the 1920x is cheaper by about $160 USD. The Asus Zenith is $750 USD but the Asus ROG Rampage VI Extreme is $874 USD. I don't have time to check if they are comparable feature wise so I'm not implying they are. The X399 Taichi is $448 USD though so much more reasonable (This is with sales taxes + shipping). I wouldn't agree that quoting the most expensive TR motherboard and then including that as "motherboard costs" is really a fair way to present it either.

This is from one of the larger if not the largest online retailers not my "local shop" though so take what you will from that. I wouldn't draw any conclusions from your numbers, certainly not declaring a "clear winner" on price vs performance.
 
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moonbogg

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Are you in the US? Because here it's 999 and the the Zenith is 550. Also you can purchase a taichi for $330 if you don't want to fork that much money on a motherboard. Not sure what uphill battle you're talking about.

That's a good price for a sick board. I was afraid X399 boards would be more expensive than X299 ones, reducing the price/perf benefits. That doesn't seem to be the case. Board prices seem to be typical for a high end board which is fantastic news.

Crap, didn't intend double post. Sorry.
 
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tamz_msc

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This will be an uphill battle for AMD. Local shop just released TR prices. While the Intel 7900x is priced like msrp $999, TR 1950x and 1920x both are priced roughly $200 higher than msrp meaning it's actually the 1920x going against the 7900x on price...add to that the motherboard costs of TR (Asus Zenith is $650) and the 7900x is the clear winner on performance/$
Your local shop is ripping you off. Either that or perhaps the AMD distributor in your country. Even in my third-world country with it's abysmal supply chain when it comes to AMD products, the difference between the 1950X+motherboard and the 7900X+motherboard is less than 10% of the overall cost.
 
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IndyColtsFan

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So I have a question regarding x399. Is this a socket that will support new CPU releases like AM4 will? Has AMD said anything like that?
 

PeterScott

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Threadripper is looking great for those with those kinds of rendering workloads. Generally this is a tiny niche of the consumer market, but it seems like AMD might be convincing more people to spend this kind of money for a home computer.
 

Atari2600

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Why are the chips requiring voltage increases to achieve all core overclocks less than the upper ST turbo limit?

Surely if the CPU has a turbo of (say) 4.0 GHz, then the silicon within each core is capable of switching at that speed at the default voltage....?
 
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SPBHM

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well, the results are basically the expected, I think it's positive that the performance hit even for gaming due to the "glue" is not all that significant on those early tests, also power usage is under control (given 2x R7s at high clock in there), idle power usage being a little higher might also be a question of the MB being used
on the MT tests it clearly can shine very often, still in some things the 7900X is quite close, HEVC handbrake gets my attention, is somewhat unfortunate for TR that is so close, but I guess that's the advantage from AVX?
also interesting that a few softwares kind of take a hit I think for having to many threads, like o Dolphin the 1950X was much slower than the 1920X when looking at both in creators mode on the Anandtech test...
 

Yakk

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on the MT tests it clearly can shine very often, still in some things the 7900X is quite close, HEVC handbrake gets my attention, is somewhat unfortunate for TR that is so close, but I guess that's the advantage from AVX?

I believe Threadripper could be running multiple (2 or 3) concurrent instances of handbrake like this, which I do not see benchmarked as such.
 

PeterScott

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I believe Threadripper could be running multiple (2 or 3) concurrent instances of handbrake like this, which I do not see benchmarked as such.

Why? AFAICT, it queries the system and uses as many threads as needed to peg the CPU.
 

khon

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So in summary Intel is better at IPC at all price ranges, while AMD is better at multi threaded performance at all price ranges.

Good to see AMD making a strong comeback, we will all benefit as consumers from having proper competition again.
 
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