The Ryzen "ThreadRipper"... 16 cores of awesome

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.vodka

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I bet it's another fake, as usual. It's from reddit, and even worse a leak for AMD, the risk for a fake is very high therefore.

exactly linear scaling???.... I'm not convinced that's true.

It's probably fake. Look at the text on the 16C32T result. Different subpixel rendering vs CB's (it's almost pixel perfect by default, look at the inverted picture). Use my 2500k run as a reference to compare to. On top of that, the orange used in the leak is wrong.





Since the picture is PNG, ELA suggests it was saved as lossless PNG first without any JPEG destruction (using my 2500k run as a reference, taken straight crom CB to PS -> PNG24), but still, considering the font rendering, it doesn't look too good.

Take this one with a grain of salt.


Now, I wonder if the string makes sense, if it can be decoded.
 
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IEC

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I'm inclined to believe that bench screenshot is faked - which is why I did not post it, despite ample opportunity to beat others to the punch here.

Despite that, the performance is within the expected range based on what we know about the performance of the 1800X at 3.1GHz, 3.6GHz, and 4.0GHz in that specific benchmark. Shouldn't be too much longer until we can officially confirm its performance.
 

mikk

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It's probably fake. Look at the text on the 16C32T result. Different subpixel rendering vs CB's (it's almost pixel perfect by default, look at the inverted picture). Use my 2500k run as a reference to compare to.


Apart from that, by looking into his posting history I can see he is only active on AMD related stuff, imho it's just another wishful style made fake from some random AMD fanboy. Unfortunately we have seen too much from this stuff from AMD. The difference is day and night for Intel and AMD in regards to reliability of such "leaks". No text with further explanation, not even a CPUz screen, just a dumb bench score screen. This is so low.

And here:
https://videocardz.com/69717/threadrippers-fake-score


Fake as expected.

....and removed from reddit finally
 
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krumme

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I'm inclined to believe that bench screenshot is faked - which is why I did not post it, despite ample opportunity to beat others to the punch here.

Despite that, the performance is within the expected range based on what we know about the performance of the 1800X at 3.1GHz, 3.6GHz, and 4.0GHz in that specific benchmark. Shouldn't be too much longer until we can officially confirm its performance.
Agree. What is interesting is what tdp amd will select for top bin. I think they simply go with same dies as 1600/1600x/1700/1800x? - anything better is better reserved for epyc.
If they chose to go high with tdp and we get dual 1800x i think the score will be as high.
Threadripper will stand on all the agesa updates up til now and perhaps some.
But its time for betting
Top bin cb score.

3100
 
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Kenmitch

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Agree. What is interesting is what tdp amd will select for top bin. I think they simply go with same dies as 1600/1600x/1700/1800x? - anything better is better reserved for epyc.
If they chose to go high with tdp and we get dual 1800x i think the score will be as high.
Threadripper will stand on all the agesa updates up til now and perhaps some.
But its time for betting
Top bin cb score.

3100

Top bin at stock speed?

I'm going with 3333 as it looks like a made up score which should make it more believable.
 
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w3rd

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You post an Ryzen 9 image made up by that junk site that makes up images all the time and you call this proof? Can't you see how bad it is? I can find you 20+ made up images like that from the last year alone.

1. That's a dual socket EPYC schematic. I don't know what you're trying to prove with it. I counted more than 44 PCIe lanes per socket.
2. Who said Threadripper is EPYC?

AMD confirmed that is TR is the brand name. So no Ryzen 9.

w3rd, here you go. Another proof that you should stop visiting that junk site that treats its readers as drug junkies and gives them anything to keep them going (back to their site).

Bro, I posted that pic because it is true.
I really do not care that you are so blinded by your bias, that you didn't even know there are Ryzen 3, Ryzen 5, & Ryzen 7 chips. You didn't even know ThreadRipper is a "Ryzen" branded SKU. Therefore, it will be called Ryzen 9.

Even AMD's own tag-marketing is calling ThreadRipper, "something beyond Ryzen 7" in their promo videos.



Lastly, why are you so concerned with what "junk sites" people use bro..? Why does it matter, can't you discuss the context instead of threadcrapping over what site released what information..? Ironically, that same website is also reporting a x299 HEDT platform from Intel, using i9 sku. Yet somehow, AMD's x399 HEDT platform can't use the Ryzen 9, because you don't like where you heard it from.

Too much tit-for-tat. You are simply WRONG.
 
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T1beriu

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Wow.

0. Please don't call me "bro".

1. How is that picture "true"? Please explain.
you didn't even know there are Ryzen 3, Ryzen 5, & Ryzen 7 chips

2. I was saying that the naming Ryzen R3/Ryzen R5/Ryzen R9 doesn't exist. Of course Ryzen 3, Ryzen 5 & Ryzen 7 exist. What are you saying?! Please read carefully the thread of discussion:

Could be called Ryzen R9 ThreadRipper. Being called ThreadRipper doesn't preclude it from using the R modifier.

What is this "R" you're talking about?

Ryzen R3, Ryzen R5, Ryzen R7. I own a Ryzen R7 1700.

I dare you to find R3/R5/R7 naming on any official AMD channel


3. So you're saying the name of a 16 core CPU will be AMD Ryzen 9 ThreadRipper 1950X or something similar to that? That's a mouth full of a naming disaster. I'm betting my money of something around the lines of ThreadRipper 1950X.
you are so blinded by your bias

4. Bias towards what?
You didn't even know ThreadRipper is a "Ryzen" branded SKU.

5. Did you even open the link that I posted confirming that TR is the name of the new lineup?

6. When debunking dubious information the credibility of the source has to be taken into account and that junk-site is well known for making stuff up and posting it as fact.

7. I'm sorry. I should not have recommended to stop visiting that junk-site. I just get the itch when I see people spreading the false gospel of that junk-site. I apologize.

8. In my previous post I have dismembered that product lineup to the bone. Care to bring a solid argument to keep it standing?

PS: Somehow, your post reminds me a lot of the comment section of that site.
 
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Topweasel

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You are right. We use the short sign so much with Ryzen 7 that I melded it with the RX lineup.

That said the point still stands the Tiered number value can still apply. ThreadRipper is as far as we know a sub brand of Ryzen. It maybe a replacement for the tier modifier. Or it can be in conjunction with the modifier. We don't know.

Is it really any different than the Core i7 Extreme Edition 6900k?
 
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lobz

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I am definitely excite about Zen. It looks like AMD is on the way to a home run.

Hopefully AMD say something about Raven Ridge (for laptops).



Remember, over a month ago, when I said a lot of about Vega?

Namely that:

A) Vega has been delayed because B) HBM2 is too expensive and that C) Vega is liquid cooled and D) is 10% faster the Geforce GTX 1080.

A lot of people called my a liar and a troll.

If you haven't noticed, they have all gone silent.
I don't remember it that way, but rather how it really happened: basically everyone agreed you're painfully wrong about Vega's performance, and then we finally stopped feeding you. I don't know why do you have this itch to spread misinformation but it sure as hell boters me a lot. On the first points: you simply don't know yet if it's delayed unless it's already the 30th of June and I have to get a new alarm clock. Vega is water cooled? I don't understand you again, we all saw the presentation: Vega also has liquid cooled SKUs and I'm sure it comes as a great shock to everyone...... but no, Vega is not liquid cooled, heck, even the main star-card of the show was a blower aircooled Frontier Edition and it already hovers around 1600 MHz as a mainly Pro card.

Would you please stop pulling stuff out of your dark place and then trolling about it here?
 

CatMerc

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A 16c CPU at a 3.6 frequency sounds too good to be true. Especially at the likely price point.
Not really, you could glue together two 1700's and you get that + TDP headroom to spare. The socket is rated for up to 180W.
Don't conflate slow progress on the side of Intel on the con/prosumer markets as a technical and financial impossibility.
 

Ajay

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Not really, you could glue together two 1700's and you get that + TDP headroom to spare. The socket is rated for up to 180W.
Don't conflate slow progress on the side of Intel on the con/prosumer markets as a technical and financial impossibility.
The 1700 doesn't run @ 3.6 GHz
 
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guachi

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I think what he means is you can run the 1700 at 3.6 GHz using the stock cooler all day, every day. Therefore, it'd be easy enough to run two 1700s stuck together at 3.6 GHz all day, every day. Though I don't know what its wattage would be at that point.
 
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w3rd

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Wow.

0. Please don't call me "bro".
1. How is that picture "true"? Please explain.
2. I was saying that the naming Ryzen R3/Ryzen R5/Ryzen R9 doesn't exist. Of course Ryzen 3, Ryzen 5 & Ryzen 7 exist. What are you saying?! Please read carefully the thread of discussion:
3. So you're saying the name of a 16 core CPU will be AMD Ryzen 9 ThreadRipper 1950X or something similar to that? That's a mouth full of a naming disaster. I'm betting my money of something around the lines of ThreadRipper 1950X.
4. Bias towards what?
5. Did you even open the link that I posted confirming that TR is the name of the new lineup?
6. When debunking dubious information the credibility of the source has to be taken into account and that junk-site is well known for making stuff up and posting it as fact.
7. I'm sorry. I should not have recommended to stop visiting that junk-site. I just get the itch when I see people spreading the false gospel of that junk-site. I apologize.
8. In my previous post I have dismembered that product lineup to the bone. Care to bring a solid argument to keep it standing?
PS: Somehow, your post reminds me a lot of the comment section of that site.


So, what you are saying above is that everyone is right... you just want to argue with them?

#1: It is true, because there is a Ryzen 9.
#2: You clearly stated there will be no Ryzen 9.
#3: NO, AMD Ryzen 9 (1900x ~ 1950x, or whatever).
#4: Your bias, because you do not give AMD a chance, or objectiveness..
#5: Again, ThreadRipper is the name of the HEDT platform, your link is only speculation.
#6 You have media bias, unable to accept information, unless it comes from approved site. (laugh)
#7: Again, another "junk site" comment...?
#8: In what posts, have you thoroughly dismembered the Ryzen 9 sku..? And conversely, do understand I am not arguing with you... I stated things that you went ballistic over and want to argue about. I am only showing/telling/responding to your bias questions. Because the argument is real simple: Ryzen 9


Bro, look back at your posts. The only thing going on here is you learning about the AMD brand names.
i3 = R3
i5 = R5
i7 = R7
i9 = R9 HEDT

If you do not understand that little bit of marketing, there is no hope for you. Seems like you are being purposely obtuse.
 
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Guru

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Will be interesting to see how this all plays out. From my point of view, I am really judging these larger core count chips by how well they can keep up in single threaded applications. It is a given they will do well in multithreaded situations but who wants a slow CPU for the times you are not using all of the cores? I hope AMD has put some thought into this aspect as Intel seems to have shown some promise in this area.

That is not how you should look at things. Pretty much everything is moving to multithreading, so looking at it from a single threaded perspective is like looking back in the past. Sure there are still some applications and some more specific and rare cases of single threaded programs, but for the most part everything is multi threaded.
 

Glo.

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Bro, I posted that pic because it is true.
I really do not care that you are so blinded by your bias, that you didn't even know there are Ryzen 3, Ryzen 5, & Ryzen 7 chips. You didn't even know ThreadRipper is a "Ryzen" branded SKU. Therefore, it will be called Ryzen 9.You are simply WRONG.
The pic you are referring to is incorrect for very simple reason. It has posted 10 and 14 core CPUs, which are NOT POSSIBLE with Zeppelin CCX. Only 12 and 16 core configs are possible.
 
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