The Ryzen "ThreadRipper"... 16 cores of awesome

[moonbogg]

When are the reviews supposed to go live? If preorders are starting soon, shouldn't reviews start as well?

 

[moinmoin]

Tech Report has some interesting quotes: https://techreport.com/review/32319...er-1920x-and-threadripper-1900x-cpus-revealed

"The two active dies on a Threadripper MCM are arranged diagonally on the package, and they're flanked by two dummy dies that provide stability to the large integrated heat spreader that caps off the whole affair. That integrated heat spreader is soldered to the dies beneath for effective heat transfer."

"AMD says it's selecting the best 2% of dies for use in Threadrippers. That means the 1950X will offer 200 MHz of XFR headroom for operation at speeds of up to 4.2 GHz in lightly-threaded workloads. The chip will also be able to boost up to 4 GHz on two cores of each eight-core die."

"Overclockers may also find plenty of potential to be tapped within reasonable voltages as a result of that binning. AMD testing guru James Prior noted that he was able to overclock his own Threadripper 1950X to 4 GHz across all cores using just 1.325V, as opposed to 1.4V for his personal Ryzen 7 1800X."

"For those who'd rather have four channels of memory to pair with eight Ryzen cores—something Ryzen 7 chips can't boast—AMD will offer the previously-undisclosed Threadripper 1900X. This chip will have a 3.8 GHz base clock, a 4 GHz boost clock, and the same 200 MHz of XFR headroom as its brethren."

PC Games Hardware (German) has the whole set of AMD slides:
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Ryzen...s/1900X-Ankuendigung-1234502/galerie/2770468/

 

[ddogg]

When are the reviews supposed to go live? If preorders are starting soon, shouldn't reviews start as well?

Aug 10th for Thread-ripper according to Paul's hardware.

 

[richierich1212]

Newegg has the CPUs and a handful of X399 motherboards up for preorder. I'm on my phone, so too lazy to link. Lol.

 

[Markfw]

Newegg has the CPUs and a handful of X399 motherboards up for preorder. I'm on my phone, so too lazy to link. Lol.

Edit: I found them, You have to search the whole site, not motherboards.

The CPU says it has a bracket, but no cooler.So the bracket for what cooler ?

 

[Yakk]

Arg, what a time for Bitcoin to be effectively offline.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

I just searched, I can't find TR or any X399 motherboard listed for preorder on newegg.

Here's one board: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157785&cm_re=x399-_-13-157-785-_-Product

And the vaunted Asus Zenith Extreme:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813119003

And more: https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Description=x399&Submit=ENE (scroll down)

The CPUs:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod...ption=threadripper&ignorear=0&N=-1&isNodeId=1

 

[IEC]

The CPU says it has a bracket, but no cooler.So the bracket for what cooler ?

It's a mounting bracket for existing Asetek AIOs. Should support 20+ AIOs out of the box:
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/scree.../AMD-Ryzen-Threadripper-Tech-Day-19--pcgh.png

 

[BigDaveX]

Tech Report has some interesting quotes: https://techreport.com/review/32319...er-1920x-and-threadripper-1900x-cpus-revealed

Nice to hear that AMD are including a "gaming mode" to help prevent a repeat of the issues that caused Quad FX to have poor single-thread performance a decade ago, though it does show that making MCM chips still has its drawbacks.

 

[Seronei]

Edit: I found them, You have to search the whole site, not motherboards.

The CPU says it has a bracket, but no cooler.So the bracket for what cooler ?

A bracket for Asatek AIOs according to Gamers Nexus.

 

[coercitiv]

"For those who'd rather have four channels of memory to pair with eight Ryzen cores—something Ryzen 7 chips can't boast—AMD will offer the previously-undisclosed Threadripper 1900X. This chip will have a 3.8 GHz base clock, a 4 GHz boost clock, and the same 200 MHz of XFR headroom as its brethren."

PC Games Hardware (German) has the whole set of AMD slides:
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Ryzen...s/1900X-Ankuendigung-1234502/galerie/2770468/

So based on these slides from AMD we can conclude TR 1900X comes with 16MB of L3.

Funny how AMD does not share this info with the press, yet their slide makes it obvious. (they take both L2 and L3 into consideration when comparing cache size with SKL-X)

 

[mattiasnyc]

I think it's great that AMD will offer the 1900X. Looking briefly at msrp as it stands right now the 1800x is $430, so to get access to this TR platform with more PCIe lanes, more memory, ECC and quad channels one has to pony up another $120 for the CPU, plus at the least $350 minus whatever one would have spent on an AM4 mobo. So, say one would have spent $200 on an AM4 mobo, then the entry as it looks right now would be an extra $270. I'd say that's not entirely unreasonable. Of course, at that point it's tempting to look at the other two 'rippers'....

I wonder if this will do anything to the Ryzen 7 prices. I'm guessing it won't do much.

 

[scannall]

That Taichi board looks awfully tempting. I am glad I decided to put off my new build in some ways. But hmm.... X399 or X370?

 

[Shivansps]

So, TR uses all 4 dies or just 2 dies?

 

[The Stilt]

So, TR uses all 4 dies or just 2 dies?

Two.
X399 motherboards are wired for two dies as well (memory, PCI-E, etc).

 

[Markfw]

It's a mounting bracket for existing Asetek AIOs. Should support 20+ AIOs out of the box:
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/scree.../AMD-Ryzen-Threadripper-Tech-Day-19--pcgh.png

A picture, but no model numbers listed. I have $1750 of stuff in my cart now, but I need to be sure the cooler will work. Any more info ?

 

[Burpo]

So the other 2 are glued?
Where have I heard that before?

 

[formulav8]

Those clocks look quite nice for that many cores. That 8 core having 3.8ghz base, 4ghz Turbo (4 core??), and 2 core 4.2ghz XFR really does tie into AMD's statement that these chips are the top 2% of all dice being produced.

 

[Timmah!]

If the 16C TR can be OCed to 4Ghz without much issues (not sure if 1,32V is a lot or not for AMD chips), then its da bomb. Apparently 1950x is 3100 CB points at 3,9 all cores, so 3200 at 4Ghz? When i think i bought 6850k last year, which is good for about 1300 points, aaaaargh.....

Even if 7920x could hypothetically be OCed to 4,5 Ghz for everyday use (as i guess 7900x more or less is), it will be probably good for 2900 score at best...

Anyway, i wonder if Intel is gonna step up their game and try to release 7920x ASAP, so when the TR reviews drop, they wont be comparing threadrippers to 7900x and make it look "ripped" to pieces, rather against something faster.

 

[repoman0]

(not sure if 1,32V is a lot or not for AMD chips)

1.35V is stock for the current 1700X and 1800X -- results in the chip using about 100W fully loaded in the 3.8-4GHz range.

 

[Chad]

Pretty excited to create a new build around this thing.

 

[PhonakV30]

We need to check VRM's Mobo.Those 1920x,1950X at 4Ghz are power hungry.

 

[guachi]

Maybe AMD should, instead of offering Ryzen 7/Vega bundles, offer Threadripper/Vega bundles. At least they could offer a TR bundle with the water-cooled Vega. Something like $200 off TR 1950 if you get a Vega water-cooled card.

 

[ryzenmaster]

Oh would you look at that. No asymmetric core complexes after all! It's like who would have thought.. Would be cool if one day the other two zeppelins can be unlocked via bios like in the past. Perhaps I will eventually get me a second hand TR as home server once they sell for dirt cheap.

 

[PhonakV30]

Maybe AMD should, instead of offering Ryzen 7/Vega bundles, offer Threadripper/Vega bundles. At least they could offer a TR bundle with the water-cooled Vega. Something like $200 off TR 1950 if you get a Vega water-cooled card.

Vega does have some issue just leave it to miners