THe Sandia Cooler - Breakthrough in Air Cooling design

[NostaSeronx]

http://coolchiptechnologies.com/cooling-products/high-performance/
^HP version

http://coolchiptechnologies.com/cooling-products/low-profile/
^LP version

"We have a licensing agreement for commercialization with Sandia’s Licensing and Technology Transfer group. In keeping with Sandia’s vision to be the nation's premier science and engineering laboratory for national security and technology innovation, CoolChip is one of many companies that have licensing agreements with Sandia."

CoolChips is partnered with Cooler Master for selling the Kinetic Heatsinks.

 

[myocardia]

would have thought they'd have some kind of product out for sale by now.

I hear 2043, come hell or high ocean...plus or minus a decade or two.

 

[LTC8K6]

http://coolchiptechnologies.com/cooling-products/high-performance/
^HP version

http://coolchiptechnologies.com/cooling-products/low-profile/
^LP version

CoolChips is partnered with Cooler Master for selling the Kinetic Heatsinks.

Looks expensive and probably only a little better than what we have now with fans. I can't see it displacing liquid cooling systems except maybe in niche areas.

 

[KingFatty]

This thing is a piece of voodoo magic superstitious crap. That's why it hasn't come out yet. It doesn't work.

Just because there is a lack of understanding of how it works, doesn't mean it's magic/superstition. There is good science behind it, and there is literally a video you can watch to see how it works. It's pretty neat and naysaying doesn't change the science/facts.

But are you able to elaborate why you disbelieve and reject this product, perhaps there is something I'm overlooking?

 

[moonbogg]

Just because there is a lack of understanding of how it works, doesn't mean it's magic/superstition. There is good science behind it, and there is literally a video you can watch to see how it works. It's pretty neat and naysaying doesn't change the science/facts.

But are you able to elaborate why you disbelieve and reject this product, perhaps there is something I'm overlooking?

Yeah totally. Prepare to get slammed by the logic hammer. This thing is overly complicated, tolerances are too critical, its too expensive to produce, chance of failure appears high, benefit over traditional systems looks to be minimal.
Its still air cooling. It looks like a giant GPU blower fan mounted to your CPU. So you get a lot of air blowing on your CPU. Who cares? Its not going to be better than an AIO liquid setup and its going to cost more than a decent air cooler, so...its a hipster cooler. Its for niche hipsters who want something odd in their rig.

 

[DrMrLordX]

The advantage of the cooler is that it uses the fan as a cooling element, which is actually quite innovative. But I can see the air bearing being a failure point. Too easy for it to get clogged up with dust, and when that happens, the whole thing just doesn't work.

 

[LTC8K6]

It seems to still need heat pipes, but they can't be attached to the moving heat sink, so we have to have a secondary stationary heat sink that the spinning heat sink blows air over.

 

[moonbogg]

I've seen ideas like this in design before. It works differently and that tricks your brain into thinking you are on to something good. The truth is though, it just works differently. That's it.
So, instead of blowing air over the heatsink, they just decide to spin the heatsink around and have it blow itself? Does this cooler blow itself? Is that what you're telling me?

"The Sandia Cooler. It doesn't need a fan because it blows itself"

 

[EliteRetard]

http://coolchiptechnologies.com/cooling-products/high-performance/
^HP version

http://coolchiptechnologies.com/cooling-products/low-profile/
^LP version

CoolChips is partnered with Cooler Master for selling the Kinetic Heatsinks.

These products almost look to prove that Sandia DOESN'T work.
In both, this "breakthrough" cooler is nothing more than a fan for a traditional heatsink.

 

[bystander36]

These products almost look to prove that Sandia DOESN'T work.
In both, this "breakthrough" cooler is nothing more than a fan for a traditional heatsink.

To me it appears they are creating a fail safe, and protection cage around the spinning fins. If something fails, you still have the traditional fins and the inner spinning fins are a bit of a fan for it.

It's not a bad idea, but I'm curious as to how well it works.

 

[EliteRetard]

I'm quite curious about the coolers as well. I'd really like to see the original standalone unit compared with these other two designs and some similar coolers (there are other heatpipe orb coolers for example). Use a realistic load in controlled conditions (like Anandtech now has), and a more subjective test vertically inside a case with GPU.

Being that this is such a different design I think it needs to be thoroughly tested/compared.

 

[ChronoReverse]

Seems to me that you lose the original claimed benefits of "no dust clogging" if you have to have a heatpipe+heatsink along with the spinning heatsink. It was already established that the HSF's from four years ago had equal or better C/W (albeit larger).

Sounds more like a niche product (which niche I have no idea) than anything I'll ever get to use in my computer unfortunately.

 

[KingFatty]

"The Sandia Cooler. It doesn't need a fan because it blows itself"

OK I admit that was actually very funny and I LOLed

 

[LTC8K6]

Just waiting for a review.

In the end, if it works better at a reasonable price, it will sell.

 

[Haserath]

According to coolchip's specs the HP version is .19C/W@22dBA and can scale to .16@30dBA.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7738/closed-loop-aio-liquid-coolers/10
So compared to a weaker water cooler, Kraken X40: .13C/W@43dBA.
The quietest cooler, Corsair H90: .11C/W@36dBA.

 

[snarfbot]

can i say told you so yet?

 

[LTC8K6]

Yes, and I think moonbogg deserves a prize.

 

[sm625]

http://techreport.com/news/30338/coolchip-technologies-teases-a-low-profile-kinetic-cooler

 

[Ferzerp]

Nothing like the description 5 years ago. When you put a traditional heatsink around it what is the point again? Other than having heavier rotating mass, which restricts it to desktop use.

Looks more like a "hey, I bet we can dupe some people in to buying this" kind of idea.

 

[magomago]

Looking at CoolChipTech webpage, it looks like they simply upgraded the fan.

Instead of spinning plastic blades, its now a block of metal with fins...am I correct? So do you more easily reach turbulent flow, which leads to better heat transfer?

Not belittling their work at all - it looks quite smart, but I'm just conceptually trying to understand what is different when you get rid of rotating plastic blades and instead use a rotating finned block.

 

[Puffnstuff]

You know the latest generation of gas turbines being used in prototype hybrid big rigs are using air bearings as well.

 

[beginner99]

When you put a traditional heatsink around it what is the point again?

safety aspect?

 

[Ferzerp]

safety aspect?

I was suggesting that the metal fan is a gimmick. But sure, we can go with that.

 

[aigomorla]

First off 6 month necro thread... >.<

second off...

"low-profile kinetic cooler" for Intel processors with TDPs up to 70W

lolol.... ummm 70W TDP.

why would i use this over the stock intel heat sink?

 

[bystander36]

lolol.... ummm 70W TDP.

why would i use this over the stock intel heat sink?

Size and it doesn't matter if you don't need something that small, others do.