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jonks

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Originally posted by: IGBT
the obama put his prestige on the line and lost.

so he put the good of his country ahead of his personal ambition and risk to his reputation in an attempt to bring the olympics to the US. what a bastard.
 

nageov3t

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Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: IGBT
the obama put his prestige on the line and lost.

so he put the good of his country ahead of his personal ambition and risk to his reputation in an attempt to bring the olympics to the US. what a bastard.

he won't risk it for equal rights, it is a little weird that he'd risk it for fencing.
 

Siddhartha

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The people who are happy because the US did not get the Olympic Games are the same people who for the last 11 months have been grasping at straws to come up with crap to slam Mr Obama.

It is time to put them on ignore.
 

jonks

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Feb 7, 2005
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Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: IGBT
the obama put his prestige on the line and lost.

so he put the good of his country ahead of his personal ambition and risk to his reputation in an attempt to bring the olympics to the US. what a bastard.

he won't risk it for equal rights, it is a little weird that he'd risk it for fencing.

AH. Took me a minute to see where the anger was coming from. Legitimate anger btw.
 

Siddhartha

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Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: IGBT
the obama put his prestige on the line and lost.

so he put the good of his country ahead of his personal ambition and risk to his reputation in an attempt to bring the olympics to the US. what a bastard.

he won't risk it for equal rights, it is a little weird that he'd risk it for fencing.

Homosexual rights?
 

Athena

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Apr 9, 2001
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Originally posted by: IGBT
the obama put his prestige on the line and lost.
Since when did the "prestige" of the presidency become associated with making a bid for the Olympics? It implies that anything the President of the United States wants shoud be his for the asking...and his not getting it is somehow a reflection of loss of his personal prestige.

The US has lost bids before, and will probably lose more in the future. From what I've read, a lot of people (including most of the White House press corps), misread all the signals leading up to the selection. The Olympic Committee wanted to award the games to a Latin American country. It may have been a lost cause for Obama to go but it doesn't represent anything like a "smack down".

 

K1052

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Aug 21, 2003
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Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: loki8481
I thought that MTP had a good take on the issue... that it shows how much power Valerie Jarrett has within the White House that she could get Obama to make this unprecedented move to put himself out there as POTUS, risking face loss without knowing the outcome.

Scenario 1:
Obama doesn't go, Chicago doesn't win bid.
Right wing response "Obama blew a chance to bring the Olympics and millions of dollars to the US, create shovel ready jobs now, and provide a boost both economically and to the standing of the US in the world at large. He didn't even try. He's such a failure."

it's pretty much status quo for the POTUS *not* to do this.

Da mayor called in a favor. Obama would have had to turn his back on a bunch of supporters who helped him get to where he is today and who he'll need again to get re-elected.
 
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