"The Social Network" - I went from not caring to excited

[BeauJangles]

All I want is for someone to succeed fair and square. We want and NEED leaders who play clean so that they can serve as an example. We have enough shady creeps as it is. We don't need them to run the world...

For example, Google guys: Sergiey Brin and Larry Page.
Decent, smart, well articulated pair that has achieved a great success without rolling anyone over in the process.
Sure, they do have some small problems here and there but it is expected and understandable given the size and the global reach of Google.

The movie is important as it shows how the fb really got created.
Zuk basically stolen the idea from bunch of people and got very lucky.
The movie goes into great lengths explaining that.

It is NOT about the FB, its about greed, money, and betrayal...

Too bad that the sheep herd in general does not care about morals and keeps using this stupid site...

Yeah because you should believe everything that is in a movie...

You do know that (a) eduardo saverin is a giant douchebag and (b) he provided ALL the information which the movie was based on. Of course it is going to make Mark look bad.

The idea that Mark wanted to screw him because he got into a Final Club and Mark didn't is mind-bogglingly stupid... Mark wanted him out because he didn't know shit about the business.

Also, if you've ever actually read anything about the ConnectU guys, they were a little pissed that Mark "stole" their idea, but they also fully recognize that they were aiming for and what he was aiming for were two very different things.

That crap just didn't make it into the movie.

 

[meltdown75]

Cool to read Anandtech's feedback.

I plan on seeing this soon.

this

 

[Printer Bandit]

Anyone who respects Steve Jobs has no say in how any CEO is.

Steve Jobs is the best CEO ever.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poFvDKU7Gac&feature=related

 

[adlep]

Yeah because you should believe everything that is in a movie...

You do know that (a) eduardo saverin is a giant douchebag and (b) he provided ALL the information which the movie was based on. Of course it is going to make Mark look bad.

The idea that Mark wanted to screw him because he got into a Final Club and Mark didn't is mind-bogglingly stupid... Mark wanted him out because he didn't know shit about the business.

Also, if you've ever actually read anything about the ConnectU guys, they were a little pissed that Mark "stole" their idea, but they also fully recognize that they were aiming for and what he was aiming for were two very different things.

That crap just didn't make it into the movie.

Lol,
I'll let the settlements speaks for themselves. The ConnectU twins got 65 million and Eduardo now owns 5% of the FB...
You do not settle for multiple millions of $$$ unless you have something very nasty to hide.
Also, you are a douche defender.

 

[sportage]

I thought this movie was one of the best. Very nerdish tech talk at first so some may think at first they made a mistake going. But it gets very interesting real fast. A lot of interesting info and facts too. I did not know the creator of napster had such a huge role with facebook's success, and he still owns 7% of Facebook. Facebook was originally a site to compare hot or not chicks at college. And as far as the creator Zuckerberg, I didn't see the evil in him. He was just a nerdy guy with an idea and no clue as to business. At least if you can believe how the movie portrayed him.
But I thought The Social Network made "Wall Street" look like a bunch of kids playing in the sand with marbles. If you liked Wall Street, you should love The Social Network.
Whats a nerdish kid with an idea suppose to do???
I couldn't get over Justin Timberlake's role as the naspter creator in the movie. That alone made the movie worth seeing. Im not a Facebook fan at all. Facebook is like the American Idol for computer shut-ins. But ignoring the Facebook side, this was a great film on how these fly by night internet ideas become billion dollar businesses. And how someone can be brilliant with networking ideas, and have no clue as to the business end.

I usually rate movies as to if i'd want to see it again. I'd definitely want to see this again.

 

[gorcorps]

Facebook is like the American Idol for computer shut-ins. But ignoring the Facebook side, this was a great film on how these fly by night internet ideas become billion dollar businesses over night. And how someone can be brilliant with networking ideas, and have no clue as to the business end.

I usually rate movies as to if i'd want to see it again. I'd definitely want to see this again.

Huh? It's the computer shut-ins that hate facebook. It's the non tech savy people that are playing farmville, and the average college kid that uses facebook. Facebook is one of the last things a shut-in would do... right next to bathing.

 

[foghorn67]

I thought this movie was one of the best. Very nerdish tech talk at first so some may think at first they made a mistake going. But it gets very interesting real fast. A lot of interesting info and facts too. I did not know the creator of napster had such a huge role with facebook's success, and he still owns 7% of Facebook. Facebook was originally a site to compare hot or not chicks at college. And as far as the creator Zuckerberg, I didn't see the evil in him. He was just a nerdy guy with an idea and no clue as to business. At least if you can believe how the movie portrayed him.
But I thought The Social Network made "Wall Street" look like a bunch of kids playing in the sand with marbles. If you liked Wall Street, you should love The Social Network.
Whats a nerdish kid with an idea suppose to do???
I couldn't get over Justin Timberlake's role as the naspter creator in the movie. That alone made the movie worth seeing. Im not a Facebook fan at all. Facebook is like the American Idol for computer shut-ins. But ignoring the Facebook side, this was a great film on how these fly by night internet ideas become billion dollar businesses. And how someone can be brilliant with networking ideas, and have no clue as to the business end.

I usually rate movies as to if i'd want to see it again. I'd definitely want to see this again.

Wait, what? You don't use Facebook, but you wanted to see it because Justin Timberlake is in it?

 

[InflatableBuddha]

I saw it this afternoon. Excellent film and I loved JT's performance :thumbsup:.

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Beautiful quick cuts during the rowing race, and I loved how the Winklevoss' rowing defeat paralleled their project's defeat at the hands of Zuckerberg's.

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Eisenberg's performance is chilling; Zuckerberg comes across as a brilliant mind, but he seems to suffer from a type of personality disorder too (e.g. when he completely dismissed Eduardo's achievement making it to the second stage for admission into the Phoenix Club).

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I do find it strange that in the final scene, as we are informed of what happened to the principal characters, there is no mention of Sean Parker. We know he still retains a 7% share in Facebook, but it doesn't say what he's currently doing. (I know I could look it up on the web, but that's not the point.)

 

[BeauJangles]

Lol,
I'll let the settlements speaks for themselves. The ConnectU twins got 65 million and Eduardo now owns 5% of the FB...
You do not settle for multiple millions of $$$ unless you have something very nasty to hide.
Also, you are a douche defender.

Lol?

I wonder why Zuckerburg would settle with the ConnectU guys, even if he probably could have beaten them in court. Oh. Wait. Here's an idea... Mark Zuckerburg was (and is) riding a fucking gravy train to the top. Why would he jeopardize that by fighting these guys in court? Going to court means that all of this becomes public knowledge, that people gain an immediate negative connotation with Facebook (even if it was undeserved), and that the company itself, rather than its product, becomes front and center.

Instead, he paid them a trivial amount of money (the movie is also wrong because they received a small percentage of Facebook as well as cash) to get them to go away and shut them up forever. $30 something million + .2% or something of Facebook is a small price to pay to ensure that your company grows to a 25 billion dollar behemoth.

Settling with them was far less about "having something nasty to hide" and far more about ensuring Facebook continued to grow.

As for Saverin, I stand by my statements that (a) he's a gigantic cockbag, (b) he provided all the information for the book, and (c) because he provided all the information, he purposely goes out of his way to make Mark look as bad as possible.

Did Mark fuck him? Yup.

Was Mark an idiot for not going to someone else for financing? Yes.

Was Saverin an idiot for falling for one of the oldest plays in the startup book? Yup.

Is that how business works? Yes. Especially when you wind up partnered with a guy who knows nothing about the business you're trying to launch.

Edit: Regarding the ConnectU lawsuit, if they really believed that Mark had stolen their idea and had any proof whatsoever, why would they settle for such a trivial amount of money? They would have taken him to the cleaners. But they didn't. These guys knew as well as Zuckerburg did that Facebook was not the same as the original ConnectU... the idea that Mark supposedly stole.

 

[polarmystery]

despite all the amazing ingredients this movie has going for it, I just cannot bring myself to go watch it.

I agree with this.

 

[Gibson486]

I understand that, but no one sued Google over the origins of their first "core" idea. Their research and prototyping process has been well documented over at the Standford's CS department...
Google guys were legit scientist guys with an excellent concept. Also, the way Google has carried itself ever since is good IMO.

I am not an absolutist. I understand that the business requires tough choices and actions. Still there are 3 lawsuits against FB that have been settled for large amount of money (like 65 million in one lawsuit). You do not settle for large amount of money unless you have something to hide.
Guilty as Bill O'reilly with the fallafel

Quit defending the retard douche already...

no one is defending anyone. Google is big because they positioned themselves to be big. You think Google was the first to have that idea that they made millions off of? It's all about how you market it. How do you know know that if the guy did not steal the idea ,that facebook would be as big today? Myspace came before and now they are more of an after thought.

 

[zinfamous]

Hollywood and its exagerations...

Why not make a "myspace"? Just whatever sells you know?

Facebook = fakebook? Catfish or crapdish networking?

I'm sure if you ask yourself the right questions, you can read google how facebook was created without having to watch the movie. However, the target market aims towards a younger audience - sounds like something Hollywood would do to strap cash and milk the cow on something popular.

Personally, I'm not going to bother watching it, movie looks stupid anyway. Maybe if it were a comedy, perhaps, but it looks like a full fledged piece of drama crap.

lolwut

 

[fire400]

lolwut

it's entertainment, milk the cow: quick cash? one of Hollywood's methods?

if myspace goes through a "massive" revamp, it can be more popular than facebook any day, but the chances of that, we'll leave it up to the its executives.

if you really gave a damn about facebook, which I think most business majors should, fact more users hit up facebook than google and its hyperlinks combined, so studies claim, we don't gotta watch a stupid Hollywood film to do our own research about how the online network website started?

I can't elaborate anymore than I am now since this is not going towards any college credit lol, but my main reason for writing this ... this movie looks dumb.

 

[Kev]

it's entertainment, milk the cow: quick cash? one of Hollywood's methods?

if myspace goes through a "massive" revamp, it can be more popular than facebook any day, but the chances of that, we'll leave it up to the its executives.

if you really gave a damn about facebook, which I think most business majors should, fact more users hit up facebook than google and its hyperlinks combined, so studies claim, we don't gotta watch a stupid Hollywood film to do our own research about how the online network website started?

I can't elaborate anymore than I am now since this is not going towards any college credit lol, but my main reason for writing this ... this movie looks dumb.

lolwut

 

[KeithTalent]

it's entertainment, milk the cow: quick cash? one of Hollywood's methods?

if myspace goes through a "massive" revamp, it can be more popular than facebook any day, but the chances of that, we'll leave it up to the its executives.

if you really gave a damn about facebook, which I think most business majors should, fact more users hit up facebook than google and its hyperlinks combined, so studies claim, we don't gotta watch a stupid Hollywood film to do our own research about how the online network website started?

I can't elaborate anymore than I am now since this is not going towards any college credit lol, but my main reason for writing this ... this movie looks dumb.

What the hell are you talking about?

Why does anyone watch movie or documentaries, why don't we all just go sit in libraries and research everything? I mean, I love reading books, but to ask for the eradication of an entire medium just because that general information is available elsewhere is, well, just

KT

 

[GTaudiophile]

Can anyone tell me why Shawn Fanning did not want his name involved with the movie? I had no idea he had so much to do with Facebook.

Edit: NM. Sean Parker does exist and was a co-founder of Napster.

 

[zinfamous]

it's entertainment, milk the cow: quick cash? one of Hollywood's methods?

if myspace goes through a "massive" revamp, it can be more popular than facebook any day, but the chances of that, we'll leave it up to the its executives.

if you really gave a damn about facebook, which I think most business majors should, fact more users hit up facebook than google and its hyperlinks combined, so studies claim, we don't gotta watch a stupid Hollywood film to do our own research about how the online network website started?

I can't elaborate anymore than I am now since this is not going towards any college credit lol, but my main reason for writing this ... this movie looks dumb.

roflsockswut?

 

[JulesMaximus]

Haven't seen it and I don't care to either.

 

[moshquerade]

Haven't seen it and I don't care to either.

Then you're missing out. Just because it's a movie about Facebook doesn't mean it's going to be corny. It's about new frontiers, ingenuity, and how things can fall into place for the lucky few. It's not about Facebook itself as much as it's about the next big thing on the network, because there will always be the next big thing waiting to burst on the scene.

I saw The Social Network last night. Kept me interested throughout. Some of my thoughts on it, and don't read further if you don't want any spoilers:

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I didn't realize the Napster guy was in on it. I also didn't realize that Zuck was such a schmuck. Totally screwed over his best friend, "his only friend" as he put it. Why couldn't he partner with him? Zuck seemed so greedy and full of himself. He also seems to me to be an aspie. He lacks social skills. He has very little interaction with other people socially. He doesn't seem able to bond or make friends with anyone. Yet he has an amazing mind, and creativity which is also a characteristic of an aspie. Albert Einstein is thought to have had asperger's.

Also, I saw an interview with Zuckerberg and he was questioned about the movie. He said the sex and parties were really put in the movie to liven it up and that it really wasn't that way. I wonder if Zuck is a virgin. . .

The ending of the movie was perfect. With Zuck finding his ex-gf's facebook page and then requesting to friend her. Then he kept refreshing the page over and over and over. Like we all do when we want something to update. I wonder if that ex-gf ever did "friend" him... All in all a good movie about internet history and how it's made.

 

[meltdown75]

use the spoiler tags

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they're ftw

 

[moshquerade]

use the spoiler tags

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they're ftw

done sir.

 

[gorcorps]

Then you're missing out. Just because it's a movie about Facebook doesn't mean it's going to be corny. It's about new frontiers, ingenuity, and how things can fall into place for the lucky few. It's not about Facebook itself as much as it's about the next big thing on the network, because there will always be the next big thing waiting to burst on the scene.

I saw The Social Network last night. Kept me interested throughout. Some of my thoughts on it, and don't read further if you don't want any spoilers:

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I didn't realize the Napster guy was in on it. I also didn't realize that Zuck was such a schmuck. Totally screwed over his best friend, "his only friend" as he put it. Why couldn't he partner with him? Zuck seemed so greedy and full of himself. He also seems to me to be an aspie. He lacks social skills. He has very little interaction with other people socially. He doesn't seem able to bond or make friends with anyone. Yet he has an amazing mind, and creativity which is also a characteristic of an aspie. Albert Einstein is thought to have had asperger's.

Also, I saw an interview with Zuckerberg and he was questioned about the movie. He said the sex and parties were really put in the movie to liven it up and that it really wasn't that way. I wonder if Zuck is a virgin. . .

The ending of the movie was perfect. With Zuck finding his ex-gf's facebook page and then requesting to friend her. Then he kept refreshing the page over and over and over. Like we all do when we want something to update. I wonder if that ex-gf ever did "friend" him... All in all a good movie about internet history and how it's made.

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I'd bet large money that the girlfriend was part of the hollywood flavor and had nothing to do with reality. Like you said, it had a good impact for the end... but that's about all she was there for.

 

[moshquerade]

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I'd bet large money that the girlfriend was part of the hollywood flavor and had nothing to do with reality. Like you said, it had a good impact for the end... but that's about all she was there for.

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So, if he had no girlfriend... which you are quite possibly correct in your assumption, then I stand even more with my assumption that the guy has no friends, and has a hard time with personal relationships, and is likely a virgin.

 

[Beev]

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I'd bet large money that the girlfriend was part of the hollywood flavor and had nothing to do with reality. Like you said, it had a good impact for the end... but that's about all she was there for.

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No, he really did create Face Smash after breaking up with his girlfriend. I don't know if the rest of the girlfriend stuff was accurate though.

 

[Aikouka]

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He also seems to me to be an aspie. He lacks social skills. He has very little interaction with other people socially. He doesn't seem able to bond or make friends with anyone. Yet he has an amazing mind, and creativity which is also a characteristic of an aspie. Albert Einstein is thought to have had asperger's.

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Imagine being driven/motivated to completing this lofty goal of creating the "next best thing." Now add that with what amounts to an intellectually-driven superiority complex, and you'll get what I saw in the movie.

I have no real knowledge of Asperger's, but that's what it seems like to me. I actually kind of understand it on a personal level. At times, I just can't stand being around people that don't understand the things that I find trivial... they just irritate me.