The Southern Poverty Law Center tags Moms for Liberty an extremist group

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Braznor

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It's amusing to listen to @Braznor say how he doesn't care one way or another about extreme right wing white nationalist theocratic groups. But meanwhile he basically repeats all their talking points. So he clearly does give a fuck, in that he loves what they say. He is a far right wing piece of shit Just like the base of the GQP party today.

I can't tell who is the shittiest human here. It could be Braznor, pcgeek, Greenman, Felix, or a few others.

I'm pretty sure Taj and Brandonbull are not actually human, so they don't count.
I say this with the utmost sincerity. Get help.
 

ivwshane

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Call it whatever you want. But I just seen how political opposition gets treated by the left, the standard treatment in fact.

It's eye opening really.

See how many times you’ve avoided providing any factual basis for your argument? Act like a clown get treated like a clown. I’m sorry guy but this place isn’t for snowflakes.
 

Braznor

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See how many times you’ve avoided providing any factual basis for your argument? Act like a clown get treated like a clown. I’m sorry guy but this place isn’t for snowflakes.
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/moms-liberty

Ha ha ha. I read the diatribe direct from the horse's mouth. I'm not impressed.

The accusations are vague enough to be applicable to any situation. "ANTI STUDENT" "ANTI PUBLIC SCHOOL" etc. and all these labels are fvcking bullshit. The comparison to segregationists is also pretty cute, but cuts no ice.

It is what it is. An organization dared oppose the left, the left branded them as ANTI GOVERNMENT, EXTREMISTS. Pretty much the standard operating procedure for the left and this echo chamber will justify anything out of the left ecosystem. It's dishonesty 101.
 

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It’s pretty comical to watch someone try to be concerned about labels, when labels are what conservatives apply to everything and attack it, both literally and figuratively. It’s so woke bro
 

ivwshane

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https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/moms-liberty

Ha ha ha. I read the diatribe direct from the horse's mouth. I'm not impressed.

The accusations are vague enough to be applicable to any situation. "ANTI STUDENT" "ANTI PUBLIC SCHOOL" etc. and all these labels are fvcking bullshit. The comparison to segregationists is also pretty cute, but cuts no ice.

It is what it is. An organization dared oppose the left, the left branded them as ANTI GOVERNMENT, EXTREMISTS. Pretty much the standard operating procedure for the left and this echo chamber will justify anything out of the left ecosystem. It's dishonesty 101.

So you disagree with the labels they use because the examples given don’t meet your criteria? So does that mean you agree that schools are indoctrinating children with Marxism curriculum and sexualizing children?

So far I have yet to see you actually dispute any claim they made against moms.
 

ivwshane

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It’s pretty comical to watch someone try to be concerned about labels, when labels are what conservatives apply to everything and attack it, both literally and figuratively. It’s so woke bro

He’s so brainwashed that he doesn’t even realize he’s doing exactly what he’s accusing others of doing. When an organization says they are against public schools because it’s ran by the government and they get labeled anti government, it’s somehow being dishonest. SMH

It’s entirely predictable though as the leaders on the right say explicitly out in public what their intentions are and idiots like braznor completely ignore them and get offended when others (which are all conveniently “the left” now) call them out on it.
 

Braznor

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So you disagree with the labels they use because the examples given don’t meet your criteria? So does that mean you agree that schools are indoctrinating children with Marxism curriculum and sexualizing children?

So far I have yet to see you actually dispute any claim they made against moms.
Spreading bullshit I see. What the left attempted on Moms on Liberty is the same as what you are doing now.

Spread bullshit accusations and hope they stick. Do you want anymore proof of how crooked the left are beyond your own example I can see here?

It's like all of you are following the same book on how to demean the opposition.
 

Braznor

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He’s so brainwashed that he doesn’t even realize he’s doing exactly what he’s accusing others of doing. When an organization says they are against public schools because it’s ran by the government and they get labeled anti government, it’s somehow being dishonest. SMH

It’s entirely predictable though as the leaders on the right say explicitly out in public what their intentions are and idiots like braznor completely ignore them and get offended when others (which are all conveniently “the left” now) call them out on it.
Now the enlightened members of P&N are attempting to label me.

Brainwashed. huh?

I called it out what it is: the standard operating procedure of how the left tries to delegitimizes political opposition. Sure you don't like it. But I can always ask you all to go suck a lemon.
 

ch33zw1z

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He’s so brainwashed that he doesn’t even realize he’s doing exactly what he’s accusing others of doing. When an organization says they are against public schools because it’s ran by the government and they get labeled anti government, it’s somehow being dishonest. SMH

It’s entirely predictable though as the leaders on the right say explicitly out in public what their intentions are and idiots like braznor completely ignore them and get offended when others (which are all conveniently “the left” now) call them out on it.

When you don’t like labels, just label everything you don’t like “the left”.

Game. Set. Match.

Man, stereotypes are a real time saver. Shoulda tried this earlier
 
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Braznor

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When you don’t like labels, just label everything you don’t like “the left”.

Game. Set. Match.

Man, stereotypes are a real time saver. Shoulda tried this earlier
Denial is your last recourse. The left has a vast ecosystem cutting across academia, media, think-tanks, activist organizations etc. Are you in denial over these?

Funny how this place can use the Right as a label for bashing anything and anyone, but squeal like piglets whenever anyone calls out the left for using dirty tactics on its opposition.

Grow a thicker skin.
 

Braznor

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He’s so brainwashed that he doesn’t even realize he’s doing exactly what he’s accusing others of doing. When an organization says they are against public schools because it’s ran by the government and they get labeled anti government, it’s somehow being dishonest. SMH

It’s entirely predictable though as the leaders on the right say explicitly out in public what their intentions are and idiots like braznor completely ignore them and get offended when others (which are all conveniently “the left” now) call them out on it.
They are against certain aspects of governance and they are trying to change it in a LEGAL manner. That in itself is not anti government. Anti-Government is when a group is against the ENTIRE government in office and direct its activities to oppose the government in power especially through violence by rebellion, terrorism etc.

Simply put, the left is branding people it doesn't like solely by relying on obfuscation.
 

ch33zw1z

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Denial is your last recourse. The left has a vast ecosystem cutting across academia, media, think-tanks, activist organizations etc. Are you in denial over these?

Funny how this place can use the Right as a label for bashing anything and anyone, but squeal like piglets whenever anyone calls out the left for using dirty tactics on its opposition.

Grow a thicker skin.

Wow, it’s just projection all the way down.

So when are you gonna refute anything the SPLC has presented so far? You know, instead of just attacking “the left”.
 

Braznor

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I like how the goal post mysteriously shifts from one thing to another.

I read the SPLC thing straight from the horse's mouth. I found them full of vague statements that can apply to anything anywhere. I'm sure I can find a thousand other websites and articles manufactured by your ecosystem at any given time. Then the burden is on me to refute them. Another classic leftie trick! Do you guys ever run out of them?

Ha ha ha.
 

ch33zw1z

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I like how the goal post mysteriously shifts from one thing to another.

I read the SPLC thing straight from the horse's mouth. I found them full of vague statements that can apply to anything anywhere. I'm sure I can find a thousand other websites and articles manufactured by your ecosystem at any given time. Then the burden is on me to refute them. Another classic leftie trick! Do you guys ever run out of them?

Ha ha ha.

yawn, projection all the way bro.

Moms for liberty are pretty clear about the motivations and goal. It’s your choice to acknowledge it or not.

Who they align themselves with is right there in front of you.

Here’s another liberal ecosystem article that you can also not read but attack with


Those classic leftie's do it again!

ha ha ha indeed, you're chock full of the things you accuse others of doing.


Here's the SPLC link again, refute any of it.
 
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Braznor

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yawn, projection all the way bro.

Moms for liberty are pretty clear about the motivations and goal. It’s your choice to acknowledge it or not.

Who they align themselves with is right there in front of you.

Here’s another liberal ecosystem article that you can also not read but attack with


Those classic leftie's do it again!

ha ha ha indeed, you're chock full of the things you accuse others of doing.


Here's the SPLC link again, refute any of it.

You mean this shitlink churned out by your ecosystem? I went through it and I saw nothing that would tag the organization as an extremist, much less anti-government.

Nothing about violence or crime. Just crying in general about how the organization grew and how it is supported by the 'right' wing media. If this goes unopposed the next label that will come will be 'domestic terrorists'. This is the left's standard operating procedure.

Sure, their views might be unpopular, but that does not make them criminals. Thats what in essence, the branding by the left is a step towards.
 
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ch33zw1z

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You mean this shitlink churned out by your ecosystem? I went through it and I saw nothing that would tag the organization as an extremist, much less anti-government.

Nothing about violence or crime. Just crying in general about how the organization grew and how it is supported by the 'right' wing media. Next it will be domestic terrorists. This is the left's standard operating procedure.

Sure, their views might be unpopular, but that does not make them criminals. Thats what in essence, the branding by the left is a step towards.

Expected response is expected.
 

Braznor

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Expected response is expected.
What the fvck did you expect out of your shitlink? Again I saw the same regurgitated vagueness just like the one at the SPLC website. The left crying over how the organization grew is not the fvcking material for enlightenment.
 

ch33zw1z

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What the fvck did you expect out of your shitlink? Again I saw the same regurgitated vagueness just like the one at the SPLC website. The left crying over how the organization grew is not the fvcking material for enlightenment.

Lol, I expected your same shit comments, and you delivered! Complaining about the big mean left calling a spade a spade.

Conservatives, being the actual domestic terrorists at a bigly higher rate than any other group in the USA, seems to befuddle you.

And worldwide, conservatives are the primary terrorists as well, at vastly enormous rates.

The only argument you can seem to come up with is simply disagreeing with the assessment of the SPLC. It’s your right to do so, but maybe be specific.

I mean, both articles offer specifics.

SPLC specifics orient about why they labeled as a hate group

Media matters article specifics orient around the extremist roots propelled to stardom almost immediately by the right wing media outlets. I’m hesitant to even call them far right, because it’s just right wing now, as a center right is essentially nonexistent.

Refusing to acknowledge these specifics means you’re engaged in defensive motivated reasoning. On the attack of others because that’s all you have left.

Edit: also important to note from the media matters article is how moms for liberty seems to be trying to scrub their extremist ties from their website. Seems to be working on peeps like you
 
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Braznor

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Lol, I expected your same shit comments, and you delivered! Complaining about the big mean left calling a spade a spade.

Conservatives, being the actual domestic terrorists at a bigly higher rate than any other group in the USA, seems to befuddle you.

And worldwide, conservatives are the primary terrorists as well, at vastly enormous rates.

The only argument you can seem to come up with is simply disagreeing with the assessment of the SPLC. It’s your right to do so, but maybe be specific.

I mean, both articles offer specifics.

SPLC specifics orient about why they labeled as a hate group

Media matters article specifics orient around the extremist roots propelled to stardom almost immediately by the right wing media outlets. I’m hesitant to even call them far right, because it’s just right wing now, as a center right is essentially nonexistent.

Refusing to acknowledge these specifics means you’re engaged in defensive motivated reasoning. On the attack of others because that’s all you have left.

Edit: also important to note from the media matters article is how moms for liberty seems to be trying to scrub their extremist ties from their website. Seems to be working on peeps like you
Now its a hate group on top of 'extremists' and 'anti-government'? Standard procedure it seems. Gradually escalate labels until they are fully delegitimized as any kind of opposition to the left.
 
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ch33zw1z

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Now its a hate group on top of 'extremists' and 'anti-government'? Standard procedure it seems. Gradually escalate labels until they are fully delegitimized as any kind of opposition to the left.

Lol, what a maroon.

Nobody is even delegitimizing them. In the conservatives world, this is what they’re aiming for. It’s like a badge of honor among peers.

If you think this assessment by the SPLC is going to somehow deter moms for liberty, the. You haven’t been paying attention.
 
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Braznor

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Lol, what a maroon.

Nobody is even delegitimizing them. In the conservatives world, this is what they’re aiming for. It’s like a badge of honor among peers.

If you think this assessment by the SPLC is going to somehow deter moms for liberty, the. You haven’t been paying attention.
Oh yea. Everyone loves having targets painted on their backs.
 
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