Ha ha ha. This takes the cake and the cherry too!
When all fails, denounce the messenger!
These are private citizens publishing their opinion critical of other groups of private citizens. This is core first amendment protected speech.Ha, so is the collective state of denial by P&N This one organization got big enough to be an oppositional political force. The left is attempting to strangle the organization in the crib.
He seems to not understand my sarcasm in post #115 either, just wtf man.Woosh lol.
As far as I can tell his position is 'it's not free speech if it's MEAN!'.He seems to not understand my sarcasm in post #115 either, just wtf man.
It’s like that pigeon meme brought to this thread
I'll take opposition to a bunch of white nationalists chanting "Jews will not replace us"Call it whatever you want. But I just seen how political opposition gets treated by the left, the standard treatment in fact.
It's eye opening really.
I said it before. I don't give a fuck about Moms for liberty.
But the left's process for making anyone a pariah for holding positions against them is pretty rich.
Equally rich is the level of denial in the echochamber here.
I have to laugh. Let's see. YOU came into this thread and are the one who brought up violence.
YOU are the one who then declared that violence was necessary to be an extremist.
You are the one who then tried to shift the blame from the message to the messenger for failing to follow YOUR made up criterion.
Yet another instance of "every accusation is a confession
Moms For Liberty: 'Democrats help child predators.'I'll take opposition to a bunch of white nationalists chanting "Jews will not replace us"
U seem to like those kinds of people.
Yes, labels are speech. They are a form of speech, and so you are free to label people anything you like. I thought that would be obvious to anyone.Yep, Yep, sic'ing labels on people is free speech.
I have a better idea. Maybe we should revisit that thread again.
This is it? This is your last conclusion? You mean this special revelation is what I have been waiting for all this while. You will never to go to believe this. You are now in full denial over the situation.Let's see their extremist positions shall we?
1. Moms for Liberty and its nationwide chapters combat what they consider the "woke indoctrination" of children by advocating for book bans in school libraries.
Book banning IS extremist.
2. "Gender dysphoria is a mental health disorder that is being normalized by predators across the USA. California kids are at extreme risk from predatory adults. Now they want to ‘liberate’ children all over the country. Does a double mastectomy on a preteen sound like progress?"
— Tweet from Moms for Liberty on July 25, 2022, tweet regarding California SB 107 gender transition bill that got their account suspended.
So opposing established medical standards IS extremist.
3. "If I had any mental issues, they would have been plowed down with a gun by now."
— Melissa “Missy” Bosch (Lonoke County, AR Chapter) was indicted for terroristic threatening towards the faculty and staff of Cabot School district. She was recorded musing about gunning down a school librarian.
Advocating murder IS extremist.
4. "We’ve got $500 for the person that first successfully catches a public school teacher breaking this law. Student, parents, teachers, school staff…We want to know! We pledge anonymity if you want."
— Tweeted by Moms for Liberty NH on November 12, 2021, regarding the law banning the teaching of CRT and retweeted by national Moms for Liberty.
CRT isn't even taught outside of a very specific college course. So getting parents to rat out teachers over a fucking fantasy IS extremist.
5. “The kids that do have their, you know, they’re confused, or they are gay or whatnot that the way they’re trying to go about it is to make it an open conversation and an open thing in classrooms…But like for example children with autism, Down Syndrome, they have to have special IP meetings with a counselor, they have to be put into separate classrooms. I understand, because it’s a different type of education for children with those disabilities, but I think that for children that identify differently, there should also be like a specialized… something for them, so that they feel that they’re important enough that they’re being counseled…I think for the same reason why teachers wouldn’t just bring a child with autism in front of the class and be like, hey, he’s got autism. Embarrassment…”
— Crystal Alonso (member of Moms for Liberty, Miami-Dade County, FL) discussing the need for special classes for LGBTQ students
Advocating the segregation of LGBTQ students IS extremist.
6. Extremist is a nutshell: Anti-science, anti-gay, anti-equality, and intentionally trying to paint any education about racism as "CRT."
Moms for Liberty was originally established to combat what it considered controversial COVID-19 safety measures in schools, mostly centered around masking. From there, it quickly expanded its focus to include an extreme stance on what it considers the indoctrination and sexualization of children through gender identity, the acknowledgement and acceptance of the LGBTQ community, as well as inclusive school pedagogy and curricula, including critical race theory, social emotional learning, and books that the organization deems inappropriate.
Just fuck all the way off. You're so far down the right-wing conspiracy driven rabbit hole you don't even recognize extremism when you see it. Why? Because you're an extremist too. It's been normalized for you.
There is a reason they are called Klanned Karenhood.
Okay. How did ''The Left" strangle it in it's crib? By saying bad things about it? That is how they 'strangled it in it's crib'?This is it? This is your last conclusion? You mean this special revelation is what I have been waiting for all this while. You will never to go to believe this. You are now in full denial over the situation.
The truth is this. Moms for Liberty got too big for its boots politically as a part of the opposition team. The left strangled it in the crib.
This is it? This is your last conclusion? You mean this special revelation is what I have been waiting for all this while. You will never to go to believe this. You are now in full denial over the situation.
The truth is this. Moms for Liberty got too big for its boots politically as a part of the opposition team. The left strangled it in the crib.
The labels attached to people has a real consequence in any social context. Your free speech ends where the consequences for the labels you attach begins for that person.Yes, labels are speech. They are a form of speech, and so you are free to label people anything you like. I thought that would be obvious to anyone.
The labels attached to people has a real consequence in any social context. Your free speech ends where the consequences for the labels you attach begins for that person.
That might be how 'free speech' works in India but it is not at all how free speech works in America. You just have no idea what you're talking about.The labels attached to people has a real consequence in any social context. Your free speech ends where the consequences for the labels you attach belongs to that person.
Looks like you would have preferred it to execute it perfectly.Okay. How did ''The Left" strangle it in it's crib? By saying bad things about it? That is how they 'strangled it in it's crib'?
Then they were pretty damn poor at their job.
The final tactic. When everything fails, call me a Nazi.Poor nazis.
Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
Looks like you would have preferred it to execute it perfectly.
Oh, I see you don't understand what free speech is. No, my freedom of speech does not end when it creates change.The labels attached to people has a real consequence in any social context. Your free speech ends where the consequences for the labels you attach begins for that person.
The final tactic. When everything fails, blame Nazis.
Can you quote the extremist words I said here in this forum? Atleast make it a bit specific? Or is this in general based on your feels.Why yes, because calling a nazi a nazi and putting sunlight on their conspoiracy driven bigotry and racism is equal to an "execution."
They advocate racism and anti-gay bigotry and segregation. The ONLY logical end to that ideology was fully realized in the 1930s and 40s. Never again.
EXTREMIST.
Sorry you're too far down the right-wing extremist rabbit hole to see it.
I'm saying that if a group who's job is to label people and things as bad (which is what both Southern Poverty Law Center and Moms for Liberty is) and that group gets 'killed' by another group labeling them, they are bad at their job. Really, both groups are the same thing on opposing sides, if one was able to kill the other by saying they are bad, then they one killed is bad at their job.Looks like you would have preferred it to execute it perfectly.
Ha ha, what?Tell me, were nazis racist and anti-gay? Did they first seek to segregate the "undesirables?"
What happened once they got into power?
Oops.
Extremist.
Can you quote the extremist words I said here in this forum? Atleast make it a bit specific?