The steps of DVD backup and compression

oscar6

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If I understand this correctly, to put DVD?s onto my hard drive to be played on my TV, I will need in order:
1. AnyDVD
2. DVDclone or DVD decrypter
3. PowerDVD

To compress (H.264) to take up less space I will need???
1. AnyDVD
2. DVDclone or DVD decrypter
3. ???????? Transcoder for H.264?????? HELP
4. PowerDVD


Is there any loss in quality when compressed? What is the maximum amount I should compress to maintain original quality?


Thanks again, you peeps are more help then you could possibly ever know.

:beer:
 

MustISO

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There's going to be some loss with compression. No way around it. I'd get a bigger HD first and keep the movies uncompressed. You can strip out all the crap and get them down in size without compression.

DVDFabDecrypter is also a good program.
 

oscar6

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So if I want maximum quality, no compression.

For videos that I am less concerned with the IQ, compress away.




 

tw1164

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Originally posted by: oscar6
If I understand this correctly, to put DVD?s onto my hard drive to be played on my TV, I will need in order:
1. AnyDVD
2. DVDclone or DVD decrypter
3. PowerDVD

To compress (H.264) to take up less space I will need???
1. AnyDVD
2. DVDclone or DVD decrypter
3. ???????? Transcoder for H.264?????? HELP
4. PowerDVD


Is there any loss in quality when compressed? What is the maximum amount I should compress to maintain original quality?


Thanks again, you peeps are more help then you could possibly ever know.

:beer:

3. ???????? Transcoder for H.264?????? HELP <---- MeGui


 

Modelworks

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If it were me I would probably convert everything to divx/xvid.
You can compress a typical movie down to about 2gb and still have great quality.
It also compresses much quicker than h.264.
 

oscar6

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Are there any websites taht compare the different amounts of compression to the raw file?

When I start back up my collection, understandably I want to do it right.
 

f1sh3r

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Originally posted by: oscar6
Are there any websites taht compare the different amounts of compression to the raw file?

When I start back up my collection, understandably I want to do it right.

yeah, it always bugs me when i choose a format, and then i find out something better is around. then i have to go through redoing everything. really hurts the team.

i was unable to locate any comparisons to the dvd format

anybody here ever use the fairuse wizard?
 

oscar6

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So I guess this begs the question of what is the most universally supported compression format. Obviously DivX/Xvid/H.264 are options, but which is the option considering "future-proofing"?
 

Modelworks

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h.264 will take over when HD becomes the standard everywhere.
Until then I think divx/xvid.


You can even buy standalone dvd players that support divx at walmart for 40.00.
Its not a format that is going away anytime soon.
 

JackBurton

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Dude, if you want to do it right, don't compress the video or audio, just cut out the extras. HD is the future and you want the best possible source you can get. With a DVD, you can upconvert it and it'll look pretty good. Upconverting a compressed DVD, not so good. Just get a bigger hard drive, and cut out the extras and leave the movie intact (uncompressed). You'll thank me in the future when you get an HDTV.
 

duragezic

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I don't mind compressed DVDs. There is absolutely no way I could keep much without compressing. Plus, I often stream them to a TV to watch with others, so with such a low res TV, they are fine. The MP3 compressed audio is probably worse than compressed video, but that depends what sound and what scenes it is.

1) I used to rip with DVD Decrypter and encode to Xvid with AutoGK. I knew it wasn't the best way to do it, but it was very simple to do. There are all these guides and software out there, but I didn't want to bother with it. So use this or read below if you want the quick and easy but effective way.

2) Now I use Fairuse Wizard. The free version limits you to 700MB file size and other things, but the full version is only $20, which is a kickass price. It is excellent. It will rip the DVD (to its own format) then encode, so you don't need other programs. I encode EVERYTHING to x264 now. IMO, and from screenshot comparisons, it is x264 > xvid > divx. I can't believe people still use divx. My x264 encodes look FAR better than the same thing in divx. I remember divx 3.11a encodes back with my Celeron 366@550, but that is just it: it is old as hell (though new versions must be better). Xvid became my new standard for the past few years until I started using FairUse and x264 for the past year or so.

I compress 2 hour or less videos to a 700MB x264 avi, 128kbps MP3 audio, with the slider all the way to Quality, using the highest resolution possible for that file size size and bit rate. I know a lot of people here wouldn't like that, but it saves a lot of space and looks awesome for the size. When the movie is much longer, I increase the file size so the resolution isn't so dang low (resolution limited by max possible compression ratio).

So, in conclusion, if you want to compress, I'd go with x264. Even my roommate's old G4 866mhz has no problem with x264 playback (though my encodes are no greater than 480p). I believe his Xbox with XBMC would struggle to playback x264, but I don't know for sure, but that thing is only a P3/Celeron 733mhz.

I guess I might not like compressed videos if I had a HDTV. But it will be years before I or roommates could afford one of those, so I'm sticking with x264. Even on my 1680x1050 monitor, they don't look much worse than a SD TV when you sit at least a few feet back like you would with a TV.

For pesky DVDs, use RipIt4Me with DVD Decrypter. If they won't rip to ISO in RipIt4Me (some won't, and FairUse can only use ISOs or it's own ripped format), rip to VOBs and use DVDShrink to create an ISO to load with FairUse. I don't use DVDFab Decrypter but it is mentioned a lot with these programs.
 

0roo0roo

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i split over 2 dvds.
recompress is recompress. plus it takes longer and so its not worth the bother to me
 

Evander

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duragezic hit this one one the head- dvd decryptor or ripit4me + fairuse wizard. You can save more space by compressing the audio portion with ogg vorbis instead of mp3 (36 kbps actually sounds quite good)

edit: by the way, you don't need PowerDVD to playback ripped DVD's on your hard disk. There are 2 free programs you can use- VLC if ripped to .iso format, Media Player Classic if you just ripped the files (open the .ifo file in Media Player Classic)
 

oscar6

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Let me know if I am understanding this correctly..... So if I plan on buying a 1080p TV in the near future, I should not be compressing my videos. Correct?
 

TheStu

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if you are planning on buying a 1080p set, then you should start saving up for a bluray or hd dvd player and their associated movies
 

0roo0roo

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hah yea...and recompressing and blowing up dvd video for 1080p...not a good idea.
 
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