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Charmonium

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May 15, 2015
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Hmm... What is with the scene where he said, "we better get out of here, they are hungry..." then they stay and watch?

His kid has got to go, he was an idiot last season, and is a bigger idiot this season.

At least they got better at shooting, and we now know where the cane sword came from (since we really needed to know that!) and the current 'master's' origin.

So, this episode was better than last seasons 1st episode.
It's nice to see a show that throws you enough clues in the first episode to at least be able to hope it's going to be interesting. They did that this season by bringing back the warrior vamps and setting up the vampire hierarchy. The master's origin story was flawed (not clear why the previous "master" passed the position on) but it was useful to explain why there are different tiers of vampires. After all, the German and Stoneheart aren't anything like the zombie vamps and the warrior vamps aren't like anything else either.

Also, you needed some sort of countervailing force to deal with what would otherwise be an exponential daily increase in the number of vampires. Ultimately I think the writers will pull something out of their ass like some sort of anti-vampire spray they can bomb all of Manhattan with. They've already alluded to some sort of chemical device. Personally I would prefer something magical and hopeful the talk about a Raid for vampires was just a red herring.
 

Jaskalas

Lifer
Jun 23, 2004
34,020
8,056
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End of the world zombie / vampire show...

Portion of an episode was spent dealing with a property purchase...
A property purchase... in the hot zone... where anyone who cares should already be gone...

Did the writers intend to break suspension of disbelief?
 

HumblePie

Lifer
Oct 30, 2000
14,665
440
126
After reading all the books, I have to say the show was better so far strangely enough. The books are a bit too corny and the characters are awful in their interactions and motivations for doing things. I couldn't get behind any of the characters in the book and was rooting for them all to die. It was that bad. The show adds the German guy as a main protagonist who had a small bit part in the books. The German Nazi soldier livens the show up quite a bit more as well as the story.
 

lupi

Lifer
Apr 8, 2001
32,539
260
126
Probably a good move to give the tv audience an additional ready face of the enemy.
 

Elixer

Lifer
May 7, 2002
10,371
762
126
That kid... Cringe worthy. Make it stop!
Also they showed the wrong full moon...nobody wanted to see that one.
 

Hopeless

Golden Member
Oct 29, 2004
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Agreed, not sure why the writers went that way with the kid but at this point I'm actually starting to cheer for his mother to get a hold of him.
 

destrekor

Lifer
Nov 18, 2005
28,799
359
126
Goddamn that kid. Come on feelers, find him and feed!

The other kid didn't really have angry looks at all, and this kid, he does... and they are impersonations of the evil look, and bad ones at that. Ugh. I think it's simply that kid can't act to save his life. Or the director(s) and writers have no idea how to get anything good out of that kid.

I hope that means they are giving up and he indeed will be found by mother and removed from the show for good. :twisted:
 

HumblePie

Lifer
Oct 30, 2000
14,665
440
126
Goddamn that kid. Come on feelers, find him and feed!

The other kid didn't really have angry looks at all, and this kid, he does... and they are impersonations of the evil look, and bad ones at that. Ugh. I think it's simply that kid can't act to save his life. Or the director(s) and writers have no idea how to get anything good out of that kid.

I hope that means they are giving up and he indeed will be found by mother and removed from the show for good. :twisted:

If you are talking about Dr. E's kid... he's "integral" to the story line until the very end. I'll just put it out like that. However if you want spoiler.

The kid does get found by the mother, but isn't fed upon. Instead the master decides to use the kid as a "bait" for Dr. E and to be extra cruel to have the kid raised by him to hate his father. Soon enough we'll get to the true post apocalypic era of the story where several years have passed after the Master has taken over and turned the world into a hellish one after detonating several nuke plants as massive dirty bombs. This basically puts the world into nuclear winter which was why the vampires introduced the technology to use all along. They wanted this so that the sun would have no more real power on the planet and they could control and feast as they like. You'll soon find out the Master has a "son" of his own who is a bit like Blade. In the story if a vamp feeds on a pregnant woman right before she gives birth, the worms haven't had a chance to control the baby, but the baby still has all he powers of a vamp. So the end of the story is a "symmetry" event in that the Master's son comes to be on the side of Dr. E. and his group of any vamp rebels to kill the Master and the master has Dr. E's son working for him. The Master's son you've already met as the vamp working for the Ancients with the hood and crossbow and in charge of the anti-vamp vamp group for the ancients.

Anyhow the end of the story is they all find the original master's birth site and blow it up with a nuke bomb because that is the only way to kill him. It's the Master, his son, Dr. E, and his son all on a tiny island fighting each other until Dr. E. wins and the bomb goes off killing everyone on the island and any vamps controlled by the Master.
 

HumblePie

Lifer
Oct 30, 2000
14,665
440
126
It's nice to see a show that throws you enough clues in the first episode to at least be able to hope it's going to be interesting. They did that this season by bringing back the warrior vamps and setting up the vampire hierarchy. The master's origin story was flawed (not clear why the previous "master" passed the position on) but it was useful to explain why there are different tiers of vampires. After all, the German and Stoneheart aren't anything like the zombie vamps and the warrior vamps aren't like anything else either.

Also, you needed some sort of countervailing force to deal with what would otherwise be an exponential daily increase in the number of vampires. Ultimately I think the writers will pull something out of their ass like some sort of anti-vampire spray they can bomb all of Manhattan with. They've already alluded to some sort of chemical device. Personally I would prefer something magical and hopeful the talk about a Raid for vampires was just a red herring.

There is only one "master" vamp and he goes through bodies over time for various reasons. The "master" vamp is the collection of master worms in the master's host body. Those worms control all the rest.
 

destrekor

Lifer
Nov 18, 2005
28,799
359
126
If you are talking about Dr. E's kid... he's "integral" to the story line until the very end. I'll just put it out like that. However if you want spoiler.

The kid does get found by the mother, but isn't fed upon. Instead the master decides to use the kid as a "bait" for Dr. E and to be extra cruel to have the kid raised by him to hate his father. Soon enough we'll get to the true post apocalypic era of the story where several years have passed after the Master has taken over and turned the world into a hellish one after detonating several nuke plants as massive dirty bombs. This basically puts the world into nuclear winter which was why the vampires introduced the technology to use all along. They wanted this so that the sun would have no more real power on the planet and they could control and feast as they like. You'll soon find out the Master has a "son" of his own who is a bit like Blade. In the story if a vamp feeds on a pregnant woman right before she gives birth, the worms haven't had a chance to control the baby, but the baby still has all he powers of a vamp. So the end of the story is a "symmetry" event in that the Master's son comes to be on the side of Dr. E. and his group of any vamp rebels to kill the Master and the master has Dr. E's son working for him. The Master's son you've already met as the vamp working for the Ancients with the hood and crossbow and in charge of the anti-vamp vamp group for the ancients.

Anyhow the end of the story is they all find the original master's birth site and blow it up with a nuke bomb because that is the only way to kill him. It's the Master, his son, Dr. E, and his son all on a tiny island fighting each other until Dr. E. wins and the bomb goes off killing everyone on the island and any vamps controlled by the Master.

I started reading your spoiler, then decided I should stop.

And then I quoted it, and it is all there to read. Come on tunnel vision, do good work!


Anywho, yeah I figured there would be further plot points. The family connection plot point is ripe for the picking, that was obvious to my writer-instincts from a mile away, so I've suspected it would be a plot motivation to get Eph to do something stupid and put the save the world goal at risk.
I figured I could still hold out hope he would get a good bitin'.


As it stands, I guess the new kid at least makes it easier to believe he can follow a different path because he's such an asshole. Only asshole kids can follow those kinds of paths.
 

Elixer

Lifer
May 7, 2002
10,371
762
126
If you are talking about Dr. E's kid... he's "integral" to the story line until the very end. I'll just put it out like that. However if you want spoiler.

The kid does get found by the mother, but isn't fed upon. Instead the master decides to use the kid as a "bait" for Dr. E and to be extra cruel to have the kid raised by him to hate his father. Soon enough we'll get to the true post apocalypic era of the story where several years have passed after the Master has taken over and turned the world into a hellish one after detonating several nuke plants as massive dirty bombs. This basically puts the world into nuclear winter which was why the vampires introduced the technology to use all along. They wanted this so that the sun would have no more real power on the planet and they could control and feast as they like. You'll soon find out the Master has a "son" of his own who is a bit like Blade. In the story if a vamp feeds on a pregnant woman right before she gives birth, the worms haven't had a chance to control the baby, but the baby still has all he powers of a vamp. So the end of the story is a "symmetry" event in that the Master's son comes to be on the side of Dr. E. and his group of any vamp rebels to kill the Master and the master has Dr. E's son working for him. The Master's son you've already met as the vamp working for the Ancients with the hood and crossbow and in charge of the anti-vamp vamp group for the ancients.

Anyhow the end of the story is they all find the original master's birth site and blow it up with a nuke bomb because that is the only way to kill him. It's the Master, his son, Dr. E, and his son all on a tiny island fighting each other until Dr. E. wins and the bomb goes off killing everyone on the island and any vamps controlled by the Master.
At the pace of this show, the above seems to be a season 5 type of thing, and I just don't see it lasting that long.

That said, the current kid has ZERO redeeming values, everyone I talked to who has watched the show wants the kid to be hit by the next car/bus/train/plane or fall off a cliff.
 

destrekor

Lifer
Nov 18, 2005
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At the pace of this show, the above seems to be a season 5 type of thing, and I just don't see it lasting that long.

That said, the current kid has ZERO redeeming values, everyone I talked to who has watched the show wants the kid to be hit by the next car/bus/train/plane or fall off a cliff.

I've never hated a child character/actor more than this kid. I don't say that lightly. It's painful whenever he is on screen.


That said, I think they'll do alright with the plotting. I briefly read synopses of the books but I can't remember the pacing at the moment. However, I do think they can still put it off while maintaining the viewership to support continuing the series. I suspect they'll ramp up this season toward the bigger plot points, because some of last season and most of this season seem to be fully into the second novel of the trilogy. They could end this season with that big event mentioned in the spoiler tag, and start next season with the timeline of the third and final novel.

It does seem like they have been mostly following the notion of a three-season-and-done story, based on the plotting of the novels and the series thus far.
 

RPD

Diamond Member
Jul 22, 2009
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Echoing most comments, that kid is a little shit.

Another complain about the last episode is when those two went swimming... My wife was watching at this point and had to say, Ok wtf how stupid is this?? Vampire infested area, hey lets go for a swim naked!

The hiring of that guys speech writer seems a bit out of place as well..
 

John Connor

Lifer
Nov 30, 2012
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LOL Everyone has a problem with the kid. I don't. Do you even have kids?!

Need to watch the latest.
 

Charmonium

Diamond Member
May 15, 2015
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LOL Everyone has a problem with the kid. I don't. Do you even have kids?!

Need to watch the latest.
I thought that complete 180 degree change in attitude was weird and didn't fit with the story - unless he started going through puberty since the last episode. THEN it would make sense.
 

John Connor

Lifer
Nov 30, 2012
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He sure could throw a knife though! LOL

I guess I give the kid the benefit of the doubt for being a snot nose kid.
 

pontifex

Lifer
Dec 5, 2000
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46
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Is there any show with a kid that atot likes? Everyone hated carl from walking dead also.
 

John Connor

Lifer
Nov 30, 2012
22,757
617
121
If you are talking about Dr. E's kid... he's "integral" to the story line until the very end. I'll just put it out like that. However if you want spoiler.

The kid does get found by the mother, but isn't fed upon. Instead the master decides to use the kid as a "bait" for Dr. E and to be extra cruel to have the kid raised by him to hate his father. Soon enough we'll get to the true post apocalypic era of the story where several years have passed after the Master has taken over and turned the world into a hellish one after detonating several nuke plants as massive dirty bombs. This basically puts the world into nuclear winter which was why the vampires introduced the technology to use all along. They wanted this so that the sun would have no more real power on the planet and they could control and feast as they like. You'll soon find out the Master has a "son" of his own who is a bit like Blade. In the story if a vamp feeds on a pregnant woman right before she gives birth, the worms haven't had a chance to control the baby, but the baby still has all he powers of a vamp. So the end of the story is a "symmetry" event in that the Master's son comes to be on the side of Dr. E. and his group of any vamp rebels to kill the Master and the master has Dr. E's son working for him. The Master's son you've already met as the vamp working for the Ancients with the hood and crossbow and in charge of the anti-vamp vamp group for the ancients.

Anyhow the end of the story is they all find the original master's birth site and blow it up with a nuke bomb because that is the only way to kill him. It's the Master, his son, Dr. E, and his son all on a tiny island fighting each other until Dr. E. wins and the bomb goes off killing everyone on the island and any vamps controlled by the Master.


I wonder if they will do this? He is trying to find a cure. Shows never seem to follow the book. But I could be wrong. I know Under The Dome has been way off.
 

lupi

Lifer
Apr 8, 2001
32,539
260
126
Kid was fine season 1, didn't notice mucch about hime this season till last episode. It was bad, real bad.

Wonder what the point of grooming the kids to transform? Where she killed the one that didn't develop proper sight though, ouch.

The flahhbacks have been pretty good so far this season too. Wonder what happens to the doctor.
 

John Connor

Lifer
Nov 30, 2012
22,757
617
121
FUCK!
Vamp squad got cut down!

Interesting Samantha Mathis is in the show. She was in another vampire show sometime circa '04 called Salems Lot written by Steven King.



Oh! Got my own zombie-vampire hunting gear! Plan to add more. LOL!


 

Gooberlx2

Lifer
May 4, 2001
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6
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Kid was fine season 1, didn't notice mucch about hime this season till last episode. It was bad, real bad.

..and worse this episode. Seriously, kid, what's your fucking problem? What does your angst about missing your mom have to do with wrecking your dad's work?
 

destrekor

Lifer
Nov 18, 2005
28,799
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..and worse this episode. Seriously, kid, what's your fucking problem? What does your angst about missing your mom have to do with wrecking your dad's work?

Well... I can KIND of reason of how/why it gets to that point in the writing: kid is afraid of dad's anti-vamp virus becoming successful and killing his mom, and mom is clearly just sick and not a totally lost cause.

Doesn't help, because I just want to strangle that damn kid. You know, the first few scenes with him, he actually seemed alright.

Then he ran away like a little punk. But I knew it he was about to become more of an asshole, the way he was staring at the samples in the lab. When they left, I was saying, "y'all stupid, that kids gonna wreck your samples." And what does he do? He doesn't disappoint, that's for sure. He wrecked more than I thought he would though.


Also, you know...
appearing to kill off the vamp squad like that... that just pisses me off. Those guys were too bad ass to be killed off like that. Something tells me they'll pull a classic and have them remain alive and get reintroduced in a few episodes... though I'm tempted to go read up the book wikis to spoil it for myself.
And Palmer really had that extensive of an anti-vamp trap in his office? Suspension of disbelief is dwindling...
 
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