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destrekor

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What I don't get is, how is the infected vamp going to do shit. If the master knows what it knows, won't he just command it to jump off a building or some shit and NOT infect anything...

I swear, this fucking show.

Also, isn't Setrakian Jewish? Wouldn't that mean he DOESN'T believe in the concept of Hell?

He could command the infected one to do something to prevent spreading an infection. Or, what I think is more likely, there won't be any spread whatsoever, because I bet there aren't any pathogens escaping during respiration due to physiology being so radically different. They could do just about anything for this part of the story.

As for the Jewish part, I'm not sure what that has to do with anything. These beasts don't represent hell; in terms of the religious aspect of their history, it really only represents fallen angels - which I am pretty sure exists in all branches of Abrahamic religions.
 

Skel

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Apr 11, 2001
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Correct. Only in the book Setrakian doesn't do anything like that. The Master DOES use his blood to prolong the lives of a few humans though at various points in the story.

The blood is technically the blood of an angel and can grant immortality while being taken. The worms are the infection of the blood of the angel Azreal. The Master uses his blood to keep Zach alive and the healthiest human on the planet post the final take over he does. The blood even without the worms isn't pure though and contains a small amount of taint. Which is part of what really turns Zach into a major asshole later. More so than now.

But basically taking a small amount of the blood will grant a bit of health and added vigor to your life for a short period of time as well as force your body to heal rapidly.

Can you please make sure to tag any book spoilers? I ended up reading some of this as while you mention the books being different you don't mention what you're posting is from the books. Thanks!
 

HumblePie

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Oct 30, 2000
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Can you please make sure to tag any book spoilers? I ended up reading some of this as while you mention the books being different you don't mention what you're posting is from the books. Thanks!

The spoilers are in the spoiler tag and are blacked out. Unless you don't have scripts running for the page.
 

smackababy

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Oct 30, 2008
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As for the Jewish part, I'm not sure what that has to do with anything. These beasts don't represent hell; in terms of the religious aspect of their history, it really only represents fallen angels - which I am pretty sure exists in all branches of Abrahamic religions.

It has to do with Setrakian being Jewish and specifically stating if his actions (using the boiled worms to stay healthy) would send him to Hell, he accepts it. That isn't something a Jew would say. Unless, he converted to Christianity sometime after the Holocaust, it just doesn't line up with this character.

And, the pathogen thing is just stupid, especially if they are doing it in such a way the master would see it. Either he knows (which he should) and averts it, or he doesn't know (which is stupid) and it works.
 

Skel

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The spoilers are in the spoiler tag and are blacked out. Unless you don't have scripts running for the page.

Problem is I don't know which are show spoilers and which are book spoilers. That's why I'm asking you to tag book spoilers as books ones. People use the same spoiler tags for stuff that just aired in the show.
 

smackababy

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Problem is I don't know which are show spoilers and which are book spoilers. That's why I'm asking you to tag book spoilers as books ones. People use the same spoiler tags for stuff that just aired in the show.

Which is silly. Nothing "just aired". It has been days. I understand not everyone having the time to watch the show Sunday at airing, but if it is Monday and the content in your post was aired, no spoilers are required. There is no reason to not simply avoid the thread if you aren't up to date on the currently aired content.

Nothing spoiler tagged should be considered show material, unless someone, somehow was on set during filming or saw a pre release of the episode. You are better off just taking all spoiler tags as book spoilers.
 

Skel

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It's really not worth getting heartburn over. I was just asking if it's a book spoiler to put the tag "Book spoiler" over it. I get that nothing today is a spoiler (unless someone is really behind) but people do use the same spoiler text for stuff on the first couple of days after the new EP aired. If this request isn't something anyone wants to do, that's fine. I won't loose any sleep over it.
 

destrekor

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Nov 18, 2005
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It's really not worth getting heartburn over. I was just asking if it's a book spoiler to put the tag "Book spoiler" over it. I get that nothing today is a spoiler (unless someone is really behind) but people do use the same spoiler text for stuff on the first couple of days after the new EP aired. If this request isn't something anyone wants to do, that's fine. I won't loose any sleep over it.

I find that to be a fair request.
 

Elixer

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May 7, 2002
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Now, what is it with this show and "kids" not wanting to kill their vamp mom?

They tried to make the annoying brat a bit saner this episode, but it didn't work, he is just as annoying as he always was, and oh, he should just be throwing knives, forget the bat.
And Nora, with the comment of '...imposing marshal law, and suspending constitutional rights' come on, who is writing this crap?

The wrestling guy, 'angel', what was the point, they spent the first 7 mins with him being against vamps in some movie, then when confronted, he says it isn't him?

"meep-meep"
 

pontifex

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Dont get angel either. Seems like the guy knows him somehow. Thought it was his dad at first but then maybe not.
 

HumblePie

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Book spoiler then about "Angel"

The Silver Angel is the stage name for the broken down mexican wrestler that Augustin Elizalde used to look up to as a kid. He is a luche dora wrestler that did a lot of cheesy vampire killing films too in his past. To the overall grand scheme of things he doesn't matter to much except he does help the "team" in figuring out what kills the Master vamps before he dies. Yes he dies and dies soon before all the bombs go off. He dies to save the others. So he's on of those filler martyr characters. Problem is he is borderline too much back story for the character. It's the kind of character that the author puts in a bit of extra backstory to make you the reader/watcher really feel bad about when he dies. Problem is I couldn't relate to the character at all. So he felt like every other soon to be dead character the writer introduced.
 

Elixer

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Book spoiler then about "Angel"

Problem is he is borderline too much back story for the character. It's the kind of character that the author puts in a bit of extra backstory to make you the reader/watcher really feel bad about when he dies. Problem is I couldn't relate to the character at all. So he felt like every other soon to be dead character the writer introduced.
The backstory is what is odd, they spent way too much time on that, I was expecting him to be the one that trained the vamp squad, and thus, he could train another...
Ahh well.
 

John Connor

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I like that one guy. Can't remember his name, I'll call him the exterminator.

"Wile E coyote, eat your heart out. Beep beep." LOL
 
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lupi

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loved the movie at the beginning. master taking over the mom was pretty hard core.

another good flashback segment.

when he stepped out of the room during the banker meeting, was certain the vamps would be coming right back in, guess doing it in front of the cameras made it that much more effective.

infection works, minor problem being that they are all then commanded to die. not sure I'd be happy with that result as the effort to infect enough would mean you'd be close enough to kill them with other means.
 

smackababy

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loved the movie at the beginning. master taking over the mom was pretty hard core.

another good flashback segment.

when he stepped out of the room during the banker meeting, was certain the vamps would be coming right back in, guess doing it in front of the cameras made it that much more effective.

infection works, minor problem being that they are all then commanded to die. not sure I'd be happy with that result as the effort to infect enough would mean you'd be close enough to kill them with other means.

If they could be infected in a manner that is not immediately known to the master, they could infect the nest. But even that is iffy.
 

Elixer

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Series Casting By
April Webster ... (14 episodes, 2014-2015)
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They need to be locked in a room, force their eyes open, and watch the 'kid' over and over again for making us suffer through this.

Don't mess with my rebar!

Hmm.. new squad coming?
 
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Charmonium

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The problem with the virus seems to be that it has to be injected directly. Maybe they can inoculate all of the humans so that the vamps have no idea who to bite. After all, they developed it to not hurt normal humans so that should work.

I agree with most posters here that I have little patience for prepubescent drama, given some of the spoilers I've seen, I think that will eventually pay off, regardless of how cringe worthy it is now. Sometimes you just have to have faith in the writers. More often than not I think they disappoint us, but given how closely things seem to be following the books, I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.

I really liked the scenes where ratboy and the hacker chick were showing the police the ropes. It wasn't hilarious stuff but I definitely chuckled a few times.

And I like that the warrior vamps seem to be back in the action. A little disappointed that it was only one, but I'm sure he's a super badass.
 

John Connor

Lifer
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1) Fast little bastards

2) The crowbar is mightier than the pen

3) Silver, yeah it kills werewolves too.

4) Old man, young woman: disgusting.

5) Nice femur in the backpack.
 

Childs

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5) Nice femur in the backpack.

I think thats a sword. That dude is probably the next step up from that vampire hit squad.

And its about time that doctor shaved his head. The actor probably got sick of wearing that toupee. I like that police captain. Its good to see the sharing of knowledge between the different factions in the show.
 

Elixer

Lifer
May 7, 2002
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5) Nice femur in the backpack.

OK, so we got a new master, since the old one was too damaged, or, perhaps he does that to throw people off his trail?
However, what exactly is the master anyway?
He barfs up all those white worms at the new host, so, the master's DNA is transferred somehow like that, but not with the stinger thing they usually use to transform people?

I was shocked the kid didn't run for him mom.
I wasn't shocked that they fired at the mom 13 times, and all missed.

Awww, was hoping to see more of Roger Cross, guess Dark Matter has him busy.
 

GoodRevrnd

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Why did they bring Palmer's old assistant back just to instantly kill him off? That was pointless.
 

John Connor

Lifer
Nov 30, 2012
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I don't think the new master was to throw anyone off. They damaged him in the first season so like wise he had to be replaced. And what better replacement than that totally goth looking dude I've only seen in high school years before. LMAO!
 

DigDog

Lifer
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ok, i'm stumped.

who is the goth looking guy with the wig?

and wtf happened to the master? did he just croak ? did he "transfer" his power with the spew of worms?

evil nazi guy is my favored character btw.
 
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