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Elixer

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Makes no sense, he goes home to see ma, smashes the vamp with a bat, gets fluids all over (they were in contact), but, he isn't infected ?

Same with the CDC guy... boss man had him by the throat, yet, he doesn't have the worms?

...
Then them made the old man into a fool as well, by wanting to go after the boss man, even though it would be a suicide run. That is out of character, he survived that long, and now, he is going to go rambo ?
 

Skel

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Carl get back to the house.

First thought I had when he left the place.


Makes no sense, he goes home to see ma, smashes the vamp with a bat, gets fluids all over (they were in contact), but, he isn't infected ?

Same with the CDC guy... boss man had him by the throat, yet, he doesn't have the worms?

...
Then them made the old man into a fool as well, by wanting to go after the boss man, even though it would be a suicide run. That is out of character, he survived that long, and now, he is going to go rambo ?


No idea on the gang banger and his brother. The Master and the CDC guys only makes sense (as much as this show can) as the Master said he was going to take everything away from the CDC guy like he did the old man. As the Master controls his spawn I'm guessing that he controls those worms, which in turn controls the spawn.

The old man is obsessed. That will make people do the stupidest shit. Still not well thought out, but not as bad as a lot of the other stupid sins this show does.
 

Leyawiin

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Its not half bad and I'm getting into the suspense of the whole situation.... then the ridiculous rubber mask on a linebacker (in a graduation gown) shows up and I laugh. The "master" is the biggest letdown I think I've seen in a series in a long, long time.
 

John Connor

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This episode was kinda funny. First it was the line, " blinking bulbs? Lets get a fog machine and play a little music." LMAO!

Then it was that line: " This is the back of your hand this is your ass and this is your elbow." ROFL!

I like how everyone says "The Master" isn't very scary, well that may be true, but if you seen something like that in life I bet you would shit your pants and scream like a little girl. LOL!
 

John Connor

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Nov 30, 2012
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Wonder how they will get out of that cluster fuck? And when the hell is the vamp squad coming back? They showed them once and that was it. I expect to see them work with pops and crew to slay the master vamp along with all balls axe carrying Juan.

Television series

Main article: The Strain (TV series)
In 2012 it was announced that FX had ordered a pilot episode of The Strain with the intention of creating a limited television series based on the books.[12] Before writing the book trilogy, del Toro had initially planned the books as a television series and stated that if picked up, the series would span three to five seasons.[1][13] He also commented that he and Hogan would co-write the script for the pilot episode and that as of November 2012 he had already begun casting.[14] Del Toro further commented that he planned to also direct the pilot episode, with a full season airing in 2014 if the show was picked up.[14]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Strain#Television_series


Shit, only two more episodes for this season. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Strain_(TV_series)

In 2006, del Toro pitched The Strain as a television series, but negotiations broke down when the network president at Fox Broadcasting Company asked him to make it a comedy.[23]
What a dumbass! A comedy?

Here's where you can get the blades they use on set. http://www.zombietools.net/
Not too cheap either! wouldn't mind owning one. This is the one I want. You can reach out and touch someone. LOL! http://www.zombietools.net/shop/reaper/

Damn! I wouldn't mind owning a Bureau Of Pest Cotrol T-shirt from shop FX but they don't have 3XL. This is America! We are fat! LMAO!
 
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pontifex

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35 minutes of boring shit and 5 minutes of action.
The master is so horribly bad, looks like creature from the black lagoon or a fishman.
 

CNNN

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How come the military isn't involved? There are tons of zombies running all over NYC looking for more hosts. There are only a handful of people fighting them, seems like a losing battle.

Show get increasingly stupid with each episode. How much more suffering is there.
 

HumblePie

Lifer
Oct 30, 2000
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Well I did a marathon watch of this show this weekend as I hadn't watched any of it, but a friend told me to try it out.

My thoughts are it is ok. It started of decent and the last few episodes the characters are doing stupid movie horror illogical non-sense actions that are completely out of the character development they've done thus far.

That is just annoying as hell when the writers do that shit.

I also learned this show is based on a book trilogy, and I started reading that as well. The books do provide much needed depth to the characters the tv series is lacking for why the characters are acting "out of character" for the show development somewhat. Especially Master Sardu (aka the head vamp who is named in the book series but not the TV series for some reason). Sepaking of which, there is quite a few changes to things between the two series. Much of it for no good reason I can see for the changes at all. It's little things like not explaining the background to Master Sardu, or just calling him The Master in the tv series. Or the differences in the divorce relationship between Eph and Kelly. Little things that are different for no apparent reason make me scratch my head.

Oh well, I'll finish the show as it's not that bad and I'll read the books as well.
 

HumblePie

Lifer
Oct 30, 2000
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Wonder how they will get out of that cluster fuck? And when the hell is the vamp squad coming back? They showed them once and that was it. I expect to see them work with pops and crew to slay the master vamp along with all balls axe carrying Juan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Strain#Television_series


Shit, only two more episodes for this season. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Strain_(TV_series)

What a dumbass! A comedy?

Here's where you can get the blades they use on set. http://www.zombietools.net/
Not too cheap either! wouldn't mind owning one. This is the one I want. You can reach out and touch someone. LOL! http://www.zombietools.net/shop/reaper/

Damn! I wouldn't mind owning a Bureau Of Pest Cotrol T-shirt from shop FX but they don't have 3XL. This is America! We are fat! LMAO!

Zombie tools weapons are cool, but a bit overpriced for the weapon quality. I mean they are VERY nice quality, but there is equivalent quality made weapons of that type for cheaper from other armories. You are just paying more for the name. Which would be fine if you weren't buying a mass produced but limited set item. They do an occasional limited run, but much of what they have is massed produced. Which I feel cheapens the ownership value as do most collectors.
 

Elixer

Lifer
May 7, 2002
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How come the military isn't involved? There are tons of zombies running all over NYC looking for more hosts. There are only a handful of people fighting them, seems like a losing battle.

Show get increasingly stupid with each episode. How much more suffering is there.

Supposedly, they cut all communications.
And since the head of homeland security is about as bright as the CDC people... there is your answer!

Would have made more sense if they did this in a small town, not NY.
 

AznAnarchy99

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Dec 6, 2004
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Supposedly, they cut all communications.
And since the head of homeland security is about as bright as the CDC people... there is your answer!

Would have made more sense if they did this in a small town, not NY.

Kinda hard to me to take in the fact that a single chick took out the nation's communications for days. And the military would have some sort of back up.

Come on, in Independence Day the aliens took out all communications and they resorted to morse code.
 

HumblePie

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Kinda hard to me to take in the fact that a single chick took out the nation's communications for days. And the military would have some sort of back up.

Come on, in Independence Day the aliens took out all communications and they resorted to morse code.

Wasn't a single chick. It was her crew that she lead.

Which is stupid completely if you know how the servers for the internet is seup and the redundancies built into the system for such an event. Even if they could install malware on all the systems for the backbone servers of the internet across the US at once, it's not that hard to physically swap out the servers tot he backups or even just do a wipe and re-install to get things back up online in a matter of hours. Let alone the days that seem to be playing out in the TV series.

Also, there is still an abundance of simple landline phones that exist today, let alone 2010 when this story was suppose to be unfolding. You can't really have landline phones and basic swithces. Let alone the secure phone setups like STUs the military uses.
 

smackababy

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Hmmm, a show about plague spread by worms that alter your physical structure, install organs, and turn you into a vampire who is psychically linked to a master in the matter of days is having it's realism of how to take out the internet debated...
 

phucheneh

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Zombie tools weapons are cool, but a bit overpriced for the weapon quality. I mean they are VERY nice quality, but there is equivalent quality made weapons of that type for cheaper from other armories. You are just paying more for the name. Which would be fine if you weren't buying a mass produced but limited set item. They do an occasional limited run, but much of what they have is massed produced. Which I feel cheapens the ownership value as do most collectors.

The only blades warranting a high price are those that are, like, handmade by a blacksmith or something.

From knives to full-blown swords, all this boutique stuff is no different from Mall kiosk katanas and shit that have been around for decades. The difference is simply that they are a little better engineered and made from better materials. But it's still just a big steel blank cut into a knife shape. Nothing special.

If I thought that zombies were a possible thing, I would say that I hope they descend upon the 'zombie industry' first and eat what is left of those people's pathetic brains.
 

thebestMAX

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I thought "Eau De Stragoi" was a pretty funny line.

I like it but I expected better. Some good episodes, some not so much. Seems to have bogged down story wise. Gonna keep watching hoping that it improves. Needs more Nazi and Abe interaction.
 

HumblePie

Lifer
Oct 30, 2000
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The only blades warranting a high price are those that are, like, handmade by a blacksmith or something.

From knives to full-blown swords, all this boutique stuff is no different from Mall kiosk katanas and shit that have been around for decades. The difference is simply that they are a little better engineered and made from better materials. But it's still just a big steel blank cut into a knife shape. Nothing special.

If I thought that zombies were a possible thing, I would say that I hope they descend upon the 'zombie industry' first and eat what is left of those people's pathetic brains.

Naw zombie tools does use good spring tool steel and they do a forging process. No, it's not the completely hand-forged process that usually commands the higher prices on some of the sword pieces I personally own. However, the swords made by zombie tools are mall junk either. They are fully functioning and very good quality weaponry. They will last, hold a sharp edge, and are constructed very well. They can be used in a battle sense, meaning that you can solidly swing the weapons around and not have to worry about them falling apart. They are good weapons in that sense.

But as I said, they are massed produced, and they are made from steel blanks. They are very good solid steel blanks that aren't that easy to work with, but they aren't forged from scratch. Which means their price is a little too high in my opinion.

For example, take this italian falchion made by Windlass. http://www.museumreplicas.com/p-242-italian-falchion.aspx

Under $200 and as good as quality as zombie tool weapons. Can be found for cheaper on deals and sale when it goes around. Cheapest at around $120 I think I once saw it. Compare that with the "Hellion" which would be similar enough to compare for prices from zombie tools. http://www.zombietools.net/shop/hellion/

The Hellion is priced out to $315 and they don't go on sale. You are paying, in some cases, almost $200 more for something that came from the zombie tools maker. There are lots more examples than that though.

Worse would be the Vakra. A kukri blade made of of 5160 tool steel. Nice steel, but for a smaller blade like that, nothing special. It's priced out at $280 from them.

But then compare that to this Kabar kukri from Amazon for $50. Which is what I have. http://www.amazon.com/Ka-Bar-2-1249-...ds=kabar+kukri

1085 steel. Which is high carbon steel than 5160. The other difference is the tool steel has a bit more flexibility to it, but in a weapon that short, that flexibility is wasted as it is meant to be a chopper, hence the additional thickness of the weapon. The kukri is designed to be a type of hatchet to clear brush or in warfare, limbs. It's meant to chop and thus needs to be sturdy to do so. Which is why the 1085 steel makes more sense than the 5160 steel. In fact the 1085 steel is arguably harder to work with, although it is cheaper to make due to demand for it being more common. That and sheets can be made bigger with 1085 steel than 5160.

So arguable for the job the Kabar kukri is a better weapon. It's also only $50. The Zombie Tools Vakra Kukri is $280 and is an over priced decorative piece. I'd pay up to $100 for one, but not a penny more. Which is why I don't have one and personally don't care. If the Vakra was a limited run (which they have done a few limited different Vakra designs in the past) then I can see a bit of value there from a collectors standpoint. But since the Vakra is massed produced there isn't any inherent collector value to the piece. I have limited one of a kind swords worth thousands by other collectors as reference so I know what I'm speaking about in regards to this.
 

HumblePie

Lifer
Oct 30, 2000
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Hmmm, a show about plague spread by worms that alter your physical structure, install organs, and turn you into a vampire who is psychically linked to a master in the matter of days is having it's realism of how to take out the internet debated...

The show, and more so the book, try to put a bit more logic into how a viral based worm could do something like turn people into "vampires" as seen in the show. Viruses by definition rewrite DNA sequences so that cells that have been rewritten reproduce to make more of the virus instead of the normal cells. It isn't that far of a logic stretch to go to the next step in how a virus, that uses blood worms as a carrier, can instead write DNA in humans to turn them into monsters.

That is a bit of a logical leap that is easier to digest than the computer magic hacking bullshit the TV show does. I haven't reached that point in the book yet, so I don't know if the book series goes into that sort of stupidity of the hack attack as the show does. Which I will be really disappointed if it does because the book is thus far using nice logical assumptions based on current scientific knowledge to portray the story. I really hate stories that the author does a ton of research into a few scientific fields to derive a believable and logical story from, and then ruins it with a completely left field illogical plot device that the story hinges upon to move it forward. Especially in the case of "computer magic" crap as that is just annoying as shit to me as a computer guy.
 

smackababy

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Am I the only person that noticed the Master did something to old guy's brain to make him not attack? Could it be he is infected in some way? Or does this Master also have some kind of telepathy to everyone, not just his minions?
 

Elixer

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May 7, 2002
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Am I the only person that noticed the Master did something to old guy's brain to make him not attack? Could it be he is infected in some way? Or does this Master also have some kind of telepathy to everyone, not just his minions?
Noticed it... [sarcasm]and I can't wait for them to do another flashback of them trying to explain it taking up 90% of the show.[/sarcasm]

I also saw some valves(?) on the master a bit lower than his shoulder.
Maybe that is the valve that the worms come out of ? :hmm:
 

smackababy

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Well, when he turned the Nazi guy, it seemed like he specifically wanted the worms to come out when they did. They weren't just randomly falling off him. So, I'd imagine he has some kind of orifice where they come out of.
 

Skel

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Am I the only person that noticed the Master did something to old guy's brain to make him not attack? Could it be he is infected in some way? Or does this Master also have some kind of telepathy to everyone, not just his minions?

I had thought it was a sonic high pitched attack, but it could be some kind of psionic one. My guess would be the Master has more abilities than we've been shown.
 
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