Discussion The strangeness with Alaska's census results.

Amol S.

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What really is quite strange with the estimated 2019-2020 census results shows that Alaska's percentage of people that classify themselves as two or more races, is above that of not only the national average, but even the states of New York and New Jersey. Also, the number of households with computer in terms of percentage compared to New York, New Jersey, or even the national percentage. Further more, Alaska has a lower "White alone" compared to New York, New Jersey, and the national percentage.

Source : https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/NJ,NY,AK,US/PST045219

StateAlaskaNew YorkNew JerseyUnited States
White alone65.3%69.6%71.9%76.3%
Black or African American alone3.7%17.6%15.1%13.4%
American Indian or Alaska Native alone15.6%1.0%0.6%1.3%
Asian alone6.5%9.0%10.0%5.9%
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander alone1.4%0.1%0.1%0.2%
Two or More Races7.5%2.7%2.3%2.8%
Hispanic or Latino7.3%19.3%20.9%18.5%
White Alone, Not Hispanic or Latino60.2%55.3%54.6%60.1%
Foreign Born Persons7.8%22.6%22.4%13.6%
House Holds with a computer94.1%89.6%91.4%90.3%
My question is.... the statistics for Alaska look so good, but still failed to go Democratic in this election by 30K votes. Why?
 
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Jaskalas

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Are you suggesting American Indian or Alaska Native are guaranteed Democrat voters?
Does Alaska not have enough Whites to vote Republican?
Maybe people are more individual, and have more to offer, than the color of their skin.
 
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Alaska is where you go when you want the least government envolvement in your life, or so it seems. And probably lots of white and indian couples as well over the centuries.
 
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Are you suggesting American Indian or Alaska Native are guaranteed Democrat voters?
Does Alaska not have enough Whites to vote Republican?
Maybe people are more individual, and have more to offer, than the color of their skin.

No no no - it's REALLY fucking simple in life. If you're white, then you're voting Republican fo' sho.

The darker you get, the more guaranteed you're voting Democrat. It's really that simple.

It's not like people are unique or have their own beliefs in life. You have to follow the protocol that you're assigned by the stereotypes.
 
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The least government possible except for the large government check every resident gets, haha.

Somewhere between $1,000 to $2,000 as an annual check is a "large government check"?

Even though the fund is literally funded by oil/gas - and has nothing to do with the government other than the distribution of it....
 

Amol S.

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Are you suggesting American Indian or Alaska Native are guaranteed Democrat voters?
Does Alaska not have enough Whites to vote Republican?
Maybe people are more individual, and have more to offer, than the color of their skin.
I am not saying all of them vote Democrat, however a majority do. As for your second question, there are many whites in America that do vote for Democrats. The final statement is true, as there are always swing voters.
 

fskimospy

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Somewhere between $1,000 to $2,000 as an annual check is a "large government check"?

Even though the fund is literally funded by oil/gas - and has nothing to do with the government other than the distribution of it....
1) it is $1,000 to $2,000 per person, including children, meaning it quickly becomes a very large government check, haha. Unless you’re so out of touch with things that you don’t realize the average American family of four would see an $8,000 check as a huge deal?

2) the money comes from the Alaska Permanent Fund which is, you guessed it, a government corporation. While it is funded in part by oil and gas taxes the payouts are dependent on the performance of the fund more generally.

Even if what you said was correct, the idea that the fund comes from tax dollars is...durrrr. Where did you think government money comes from?
 

Moonbeam

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Somewhere between $1,000 to $2,000 as an annual check is a "large government check"?

Even though the fund is literally funded by oil/gas - and has nothing to do with the government other than the distribution of it....
What? You're kidding me. 1000 to 2000 just for living there isn't a large check. Glad to see this isn't a large check according to some socialist like you but the idea that worthless people can collect a dime is way to big a check for me. And in a Red State? Fucking hypocrites.
 

Zorba

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On the computer bit, there at least used to be a serious lack of women in Alaska, so I'm guessing porn is important there .

There are also no large cities in Alaska, with Anchorage being the largest, which is smaller than Wichita, Kansas at less than 300K people. I'm also not sure how native Alaskans tend to vote, either for which party or in what percentages.
 

Zorba

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1) it is $1,000 to $2,000 per person, including children, meaning it quickly becomes a very large government check, haha. Unless you’re so out of touch with things that you don’t realize the average American family of four would see an $8,000 check as a huge deal?

2) the money comes from the Alaska Permanent Fund which is, you guessed it, a government corporation. While it is funded in part by oil and gas taxes the payouts are dependent on the performance of the fund more generally.

Even if what you said was correct, the idea that the fund comes from tax dollars is...durrrr. Where did you think government money comes from?
Don't forget that is as opposed to income taxes too, so it can be an $8,000 check to your family as opposed to your family paying thousands to the state.
 

Pohemi

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Okay, so...more rambling without a point notwithstanding...

There are two categories that state, "White alone" and while the first/initial one is lower than the national avg, the 2nd listing with 'non-latino/hispanic' is higher.
So...two separate 'white alone' categories? I are confussled by this...

Also- if you are surprised by a higher % of household PCs...you obviously don't understand how much of the year people are shut-ins and avoid going outdoors unless it's necessary. It's Alaska...it gets fucking cold.
 

Amol S.

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Okay, so...more rambling without a point notwithstanding...

There are two categories that state, "White alone" and while the first/initial one is lower than the national avg, the 2nd listing with 'non-latino/hispanic' is higher.
So...two separate 'white alone' categories? I are confussled by this...

Also- if you are surprised by a higher % of household PCs...you obviously don't understand how much of the year people are shut-ins and avoid going outdoors unless it's necessary. It's Alaska...it gets fucking cold.
The two categories are listed just like it is listed in the government census link provided. I am not trying to ramble, I am just curious. It's cold in New York State as well, probably much colder than New Jersey, but still NY has less computers than NJ. Think about the people that live around the Catskills mountains or other Appalachian Mountains in New York. New York City is a very business and financial place as well.
 

Meghan54

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Okay, so...more rambling without a point notwithstanding...

There are two categories that state, "White alone" and while the first/initial one is lower than the national avg, the 2nd listing with 'non-latino/hispanic' is higher.
So...two separate 'white alone' categories? I are confussled by this...


Also- if you are surprised by a higher % of household PCs...you obviously don't understand how much of the year people are shut-ins and avoid going outdoors unless it's necessary. It's Alaska...it gets fucking cold.

If you follow the link in the OP and read the footnote to category "White alone, non-Latino/Hispanic", you'd find:

"Hispanics may be of any race, so also are included in applicable race categories."

So there seems to be quite a bit of overlap between white, Hispanic/Latino, and white, non-Latino/Hispanic counts.

And honestly, why would anyone be surprised by Alaska's higher concentration of PC's vs. continental U.S.? I'd be willing to bet the difficulties of getting to a public use computer, like in a library, is much more difficult for the average Alaskan than residents down here in the cont. U.S., for instance. So kinda makes some sense that more Alaskans do have an actual PC in their homes than, for instance, NYC residents.
 
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JEDIYoda

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The two categories are listed just like it is listed in the government census link provided. I am not trying to ramble, I am just curious. It's cold in New York State as well, probably much colder than New Jersey, but still NY has less computers than NJ. Think about the people that live around the Catskills mountains or other Appalachian Mountains in New York. New York City is a very business and financial place as well.
Who the f%^k cares,,,,,,you posted some silly bull shit to make a point, that you never made!
Man up....
 

Pohemi

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So kinda makes some sense that more Alaskans do have an actual PC in their homes than, for instance, NYC residents.
Especially when you go according to % by population, with NY having literal magnitudes of order more people living just in NYC alone than the entire state of AK.
 

hal2kilo

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It’s also a place where people go to get away from society, some because they don’t play well with others, some just want the solitude.
They hit the end of the road for malcontents'.
Or hide out there during WWII. Make a killing, and own a chunk of Kitsap Co. The family will remain nameless.
 

pmv

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1) it is $1,000 to $2,000 per person, including children, meaning it quickly becomes a very large government check, haha. Unless you’re so out of touch with things that you don’t realize the average American family of four would see an $8,000 check as a huge deal?

2) the money comes from the Alaska Permanent Fund which is, you guessed it, a government corporation. While it is funded in part by oil and gas taxes the payouts are dependent on the performance of the fund more generally.

Even if what you said was correct, the idea that the fund comes from tax dollars is...durrrr. Where did you think government money comes from?

So it's similar to what Norway does? (And what the UK probably should have done but signally failed to do with North Sea oil.)
 
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