The Supreme Court Friday ruled in favor of a Christian web designer in Colorado who refuses to create websites to celebrate same-sex weddings...

sportage

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To top it off, the challenge from the so called web designer was bogus in the first place. Not one SS couple had asked the challenger to deign a website nor has the challenger ever designed such a website FOR ANYONE be it SS or be it opposite sex. This was an entirely made-up attack on a minority class, concocted by entities with objectives that go far beyond that of simply designing websites.
Stay tuned... Now they have been empowered AND they will be back. Filing lawsuits up the ying yang attacking the LGBTQ community every way imaginable until the day comes when they finally get what they really want, to nullify marriage equality across the board by using the US Supreme Court.
It's no secret, everyone knows exactly what these bigots are up to. And they have no shame.
If you haven't noticed.... the war HAS BEGUN.
 
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ivwshane

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So discrimination is now legal based on free speech? That's the ruling?

No, these rulings basically say that religion trumps everything. I thought I read something in the constitution about that but who knows!
 

fskimospy

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No, these rulings basically say that religion trumps everything. I thought I read something in the constitution about that but who knows!
This specific ruling deals with free speech but I don’t see any reason it couldn’t be applied to religion.
 
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I wonder if that means that restaurants can refuse to serve Supreme Court Justices.
Small private businesses can turn people down for no reason at all. This is just virtue signaling by fascists.

No shoes, no shirt, no service. Are we going to turn that into a lament that certain poor people, or Floridians, are being categorically denied public services?

And to be clear, this also means good people don't have to serve fascists.

Goose and Gander stuff, at the end of the day.


Free Speech = Free Speech
 
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sportage

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For LGBTQ I guess it's back to the future. The days when the cops could go into bars and kick the hell out of gays, and no court would hold the cops accountable. The gays deserved it for.... for.... going out in public.

I remember a few gay organizations very much opposed to the "hetrosexualizing" of the gay community via allowing SS marriage. There were gays who wanted nothing to do with affiliations with heterosexual lifestyles and that included heterosexual style marriage. Some gays were just fine with the way things were before stone-wall. They liked the concept of having their own little private club, their own hidden lifestyle. To seek acceptance and conformity within the straight community was appalling to many gays at the time.

Who knows, maybe this scotus ruling may lead to the revival of slave ownership? Why not? Why not a full-on back to the future? Or as the maga would say, "M"ake "A"merica "G"reat "A"gain. Isn't this what MAGA really means? Code word. Code words.
 

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Another big shitty day for the US. A woman with no standing (fictitious injury that never happened) wins. The decision could be a civil rights nightmare by allowing businesses open to the public to refuse to serve people based on their race, religion, or sexual orientation. The case at issue was already shady but new reporting suggests it’s even more questionable than known.

 

sportage

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Here's the deal, as Biden would say....
BLACKS must stop voting for republicans. Period!
WOMEN must stop voting for republicans. Period!
GAYS need to quit this shit where they "affiliate" or feel some "connection" with the Republican Party. Give it up, you don't. You will never be embraced as part of that party. Period!

And just as important, all of the above must quit voting for Donald Trump. I know a lot of blacks have voted for Trump AND feel they are part of the Republican Party. And the same goes for a lot of LGBTQ. They too coddle this notion where it benefits them to vote republican. Duh.... DEAD WRONG!
 

sportage

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It really doesn't matter what happens to Donald Trump in the courts. The damage to democracy has already been done. The damage will continue and continue despite the future of Donald Trump. The cancer has metastasized.
 

Greenman

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It's interesting to me that this even became a case. Why would you want to force someone to do work or perform a service for you if they didn't want to? It's not like you're going to get their best effort. From the providers standpoint, it's easy enough to find an excuse to refuse taking the job, I've done it. Sometimes a client comes along and right from the start you can tell they're going to be a problem, so your price goes way up or you're to busy to do the job.
If it's an idiot that say's "I don't work for gays or blacks" would you really want that clown doing anything for you? Could you swallow your pride and hand him a check when he was done? Could you eat the cake he made you knowing that it was made with plenty of spit and God only knows what else?

I agree with the concept, it's the reality that doesn't make sense.
 

fskimospy

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It's interesting to me that this even became a case. Why would you want to force someone to do work or perform a service for you if they didn't want to? It's not like you're going to get their best effort. From the providers standpoint, it's easy enough to find an excuse to refuse taking the job, I've done it. Sometimes a client comes along and right from the start you can tell they're going to be a problem, so your price goes way up or you're to busy to do the job.
If it's an idiot that say's "I don't work for gays or blacks" would you really want that clown doing anything for you? Could you swallow your pride and hand him a check when he was done? Could you eat the cake he made you knowing that it was made with plenty of spit and God only knows what else?

I agree with the concept, it's the reality that doesn't make sense.
No one actually forced anyone to do anything. It was a fictitious case - SCOTUS defied their own longstanding precedents on standing to take the case because they are clowns.
 

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To top it off, the challenge from the so called web designer was bogus in the first place. Not one SS couple had asked the challenger to deign a website nor has the challenger ever designed such a website FOR ANYONE be it SS or be it opposite sex. This was an entirely made-up attack on a minority class, concocted by entities with objectives that go far beyond that of simply designing websites.
Stay tuned... Now they have been empowered AND they will be back. Filing lawsuits up the ying yang attacking the LGBTQ community every way imaginable until the day comes when they finally get what they really want, to nullify marriage equality across the board by using the US Supreme Court.
It's no secret, everyone knows exactly what these bigots are up to. And they have no shame.
If you haven't noticed.... the war HAS BEGUN.
The plaintiff falsely claimed that there was one such request. Which when tracked down by media, was a straight, married, man who never contacted the plaintiff. It was never even pretended to claim that the plaintiff was ever charged with breaking Colorado law, so there was indisputably no present harm to the plaintiff to justify any court case, even if the completely fabricated request had been made.

So yes, the entire controversy was completely fabricated by right wing hate groups, and should never have made it past summary dismissal - much less gone all the way to this fake christian Taliban court.

 

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This specific ruling deals with free speech but I don’t see any reason it couldn’t be applied to religion.
What it means to me is that when the Supreme court obtains a majority membership of religious bigots who wish to subject the rest of us to that bigotry, owing to the fact that our forefathers saw them coming and established clear and rigorous constitutional limits against it, the case they will present to do so will be couched in non-religious terms. Bigots are completely blind to what they do and this deludes them into thinking everybody else can't see what they are really doing.

The reasons the Supreme Court is seen as more and more contemptible are sitting on the bench.
 

Moonbeam

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The conservatives on the court were put there at great expense by a Mafia equivalent They owe a lot and you know what happens to those who don't come through.
 

Moonbeam

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JFC lady with no standing fucks over historically marginalized group for shits and giggles.

Highest court in the land falls for this shit.

We're not gonna make it are we?
Humans are born with an inner sense of justice. We're going to make it. We can't lose. How long it takes depends on how many wake up and how soon. My opinion.
 

fskimospy

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Humans are born with an inner sense of justice. We're going to make it. We can't lose. How long it takes depends on how many wake up and how soon. My opinion.
I agree. We have made it through worse times than these.
 

Jaskalas

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Humans are born with an inner sense of justice. We're going to make it. We can't lose. How long it takes depends on how many wake up and how soon. My opinion.
The Russians, the North Koreans, the Taliban. All think very highly of how wise and just they are.
They wouldn't be wrong, would they?

We are born as apes with clubs that ever desire the smashing other apes with said clubs.
As our institutions fail, there will be absolutely nothing separating us from any of the worst tribes in history. Our behaviors will keep devolving into the most primitive of human nature.
 
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