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That's because reality doesn't make sense to people whose comprehension level is limited to their personal experience.It's interesting to me that this even became a case. Why would you want to force someone to do work or perform a service for you if they didn't want to? It's not like you're going to get their best effort. From the providers standpoint, it's easy enough to find an excuse to refuse taking the job, I've done it. Sometimes a client comes along and right from the start you can tell they're going to be a problem, so your price goes way up or you're to busy to do the job.
If it's an idiot that say's "I don't work for gays or blacks" would you really want that clown doing anything for you? Could you swallow your pride and hand him a check when he was done? Could you eat the cake he made you knowing that it was made with plenty of spit and God only knows what else?
I agree with the concept, it's the reality that doesn't make sense.
Humans are not born with an inner sense of justice. That must be taught. And usually the only way to instill that is by getting children to understand that they wouldn't want that same injustice to happen to them. And even there that fails more often than not due to tribalism and other divisions.Humans are born with an inner sense of justice. We're going to make it. We can't lose. How long it takes depends on how many wake up and how soon. My opinion.
Some examples:Humans are not born with an inner sense of justice. That must be taught. And usually the only way to instill that is by getting children to understand that they wouldn't want that same injustice to happen to them. And even there that fails more often than not due to tribalism and other divisions.
And kindly do not give me your usual spiel about how the damage done to us as children causes us to act out in self-hate. That is true, yes... but the injustice and violence done from bigotry and tribalism is not self-hate. In order for it to be self-hate, the bigot would have to be able to (in some fashion) self-identify with the object of their bigotry. And that is exactly what does not happen. To the bigot, the objects of their bigotry are not humans and there is no self-identification, much less self-hate.
I appreciate your optimism and don't disagree with it. But I question that you truly understand what we're up against.
That just because you can tack doesn't make you a tack driver. Boom!-I'm genuinely confused. What are you trying to say?
Do people think we will see 'Gays not Served' signs on businesses?
Looks like their color choice in robes went from white to black.Nah, much like with the racism that resulted from BLM, with the blacked out American flag with the "thin blue line", we'll probably see black rainbows with whatever color they come up with to designate these poor unfairly maligned supreme court justices.
Almost certainly there will be an idiot somewhere that does it.Do people think we will see 'Gays not Served' signs on businesses?
I would use the word idiot also but I don't really think it's fair or accurate. It expresses contempt. As I have said, I think we create what we fear and bigots, molded by the bigoted ignorance of their childhood surroundings are full of contempt for others. And as is usual for people who radiate contempt for some 'other' they imagine themselves superior to, because they need that as a sop for their own damaged selves, have that contempt shined right back at them who see their inner nastiness. And as I have also said, if you hold others in contempt it is because of that same need, which all goes back to holding yourself in contempt. It's just like 'accusations are projections'.Almost certainly there will be an idiot somewhere that does it.
It's bad enough that the lower courts even entertained a suit with no damaged party, but that the SC wasted time with a case in which the only relevant party lied to the courts... It's shocking she's not being held in contempt and the case thrown out.Turns out she fucking lied and was NEVER contacted by a gay man asking for a website. The name she used was a straight married fellow web designer.
Colorado web designer told Supreme Court a man sought her services for his same-sex wedding. He says he didn’t – and he’s straight
The Colorado web designer who wanted to refuse LGBTQ customers and just won her case at the Supreme Court had claimed in court filings that a man inquired about her services for his same-sex wedding.
But the man says he never reached out to Lorie Smith, the web designer who argued at the Supreme Court that she shouldn’t be forced to create same-sex wedding websites because of her religious objections. In fact, the man says he’s straight and married to a woman.
The man was identified as “Stewart” in court filings and as someone who requested graphic designs for invitations and other materials for a same-sex wedding with his fiancé, Mike. CNN contacted Stewart through information in court filings. He asked for his last name, which is not in the filing, not to be used.
In an interview with CNN Friday, Stewart said that he “did not submit a request” to the company, 303 Creative, and is a “happily married man to a woman of 15 years.”
“I don’t know Mike,” Stewart said. “I’ve never asked anybody to design a website for me, so it’s all very strange. I certainly didn’t contact her, and whatever the information in that request is, is fake.”
Stewart, who previously worked for CNN, said that he is a web designer himself, and that “it would make zero sense to hire a web designer when I can do that for myself.”
Stewart said he was unaware of his information being a part of the court record until he was contacted by media outlet The New Republic on Wednesday.
“It is concerning that nobody connected with this case over the last six years has ever thought to call me, email me, text me to try and corroborate that communication in any way,” he said, adding: “I don’t necessarily think that would be a tipping point in this case at all, but at the very least … a case of this magnitude should be corroborated, should be fact checked along the way.”
CNN reached out to Smith for comment. Kellie Fiedorek, a senior counsel at Alliance Defending Freedom, which represented Smith, said in a statement that Smith “doesn’t do background checks on incoming requests to determine if the person submitting is genuine.”
“Whether Lorie received a legitimate request or whether someone lied to her is irrelevant,” Fiedorek said. “No one should have to wait to be punished by the government to challenge an unjust law.”
“Moreover, Lorie has received other wedding requests and has been unable to respond to any request because that put her at risk of punishment for violating Colorado’s unjust law,” Fiedorek said, referring to an anti-discrimination law in the state.
Stewart called the Supreme Court’s decision Friday morning “disgraceful” and said that “it does seem like the entire case has been somewhat concocted to achieve a specific outcome.”
“As a designer, I think designers can refuse to do work for a prospective client for any number of reasons,” Stewart said. “Race, gender, sexual orientation should not be one of those.”
Some people are deserving of contempt. If someone puts a sign on their door that say's "no faggots or awesome people allowed", that's a contemptable action.I would use the word idiot also but I don't really think it's fair or accurate. It expresses contempt. As I have said, I think we create what we fear and bigots, molded by the bigoted ignorance of their childhood surroundings are full of contempt for others. And as is usual for people who radiate contempt for some 'other' they imagine themselves superior to, because they need that as a sop for their own damaged selves, have that contempt shined right back at them who see their inner nastiness. And as I have also said, if you hold others in contempt it is because of that same need, which all goes back to holding yourself in contempt. It's just like 'accusations are projections'.
And because of the inner roiled state that bigotry is a symptom, a bigot isn't a really a calm and collected person. He or she lives with an ax to grind. And that is why I think you are right.
If someone puts such a sign in their window to deny service to such people they are doing so because they consider the declaration they are making is justified because such people are despicable. But it is not a fact they are despicable. It is a gut feeling that I believe acquires a sense of inner certainty due to the gag response.Some people are deserving of contempt. If someone puts a sign on their door that say's "no faggots or awesome people allowed", that's a contemptable action.
The statement that "accusations are projections" is patently false in this context. It precludes the ability to make a declarative statement of fact.
Who is to say they weren’t in on bringing it to docket. All the perks we read about incurs some heavy debt.It's bad enough that the lower courts even entertained a suit with no damaged party, but that the SC wasted time with a case in which the only relevant party lied to the courts... It's shocking she's not being held in contempt and the case thrown out.
That’s right. I forgot that shirtless shoeless people had protected status.This is no different than the sign that I used to see hanging in stores when I went to the beach that said "no shoes, no shirt, no service" because the business has the right to refuse service. Trying to force someone to bend to your will when it violates the other party's free will does not sit well with the majority of people. If you don't like it then take your business elsewhere.
It won't be long before someone sees this and snowflakes right off the left edge of the map.
So to be clear you’re fine with businesses posting signs that say ‘no blacks’, right?This is no different than the sign that I used to see hanging in stores when I went to the beach that said "no shoes, no shirt, no service" because the business has the right to refuse service. Trying to force someone to bend to your will when it violates the other party's free will does not sit well with the majority of people. If you don't like it then take your business elsewhere.
It won't be long before someone sees this and snowflakes right off the left edge of the map.
Some examples:
Chimps' Sense of Justice Found Similar to Humans'
www.scientificamerican.com
Monkeys for equal pay (and every cat for itself)
A philosopher once wrote to Frans de Waal, explaining the flaw in the primatologist’s findings on what he calls “the emotional side of animal behavior.” It was impossible that monkeys have a sense of fairness, the philosopher said, “because the sense ...news.berkeley.edu
I think you put the cart in front of the horse. I think the teaching of of moral behavior is the result of the genetic evolutionary survival characteristics that makes up our genetic memory. We manifest the kind of moral teaching that correspond to our acquired human nature.
The self identification I think you are missing is the identification of the child with it’s torturers the teachers of hate. Stockholm Syndrome, where the self becomes the only permitted victim.
Indeed, chimps in the short-term social groups refused to work after their partner received a better reward for the same job.