The Supreme Court takes up a case that again tests the limits of gun rights

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fskimospy

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Then flambé them, and isolate them even further from their voting base. Make it the sole messaging for entire election cycles. 'We wanted to do it the R way, no strings attached, and they voted no. Republicans want dead children'.
I remember when Obama made his health care plan the Republican health care plan and the Republican base…didn’t give a shit.
 

Moonbeam

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You really should read the thread before paying more of this nonsense.

Like I said you’re not emotionally ready to admit I’m right so you’re getting upset. I feel sorry for you and hope you get better soon.
You kind of crack me up when you speak of emotions especially of the kind to which I think you refer. I see you as a person who screams, "I keep emotions out of my reasoning", how am I supposed to think you know much about them. Conservatives leap out of the frying pan before they can think and can land sometimes in the fire instead. You can reason away that where you jump may be worse and be too late to escape. Truth is always a third way. Conservatives fear; liberals repress it. I say I know what they fear and you repress, what we all actually feel. What you refer to as being emotional is being affected by feelings that are irrational, but you do not really know what makes them irrational because you repress their effecting your thinking. That makes you as ignorant as they are as to what they really are and what makes them irrational. Without emotion life is without joy, one long state of depression.

I say the joy of being is natural and fear is not. Fear is thought time and thinking all of which can end at the strange event of awakening. It happens is the process of coming to know oneself. The journey goes through hell. What you call emotional is not the state of people who recover the capacity to love. Look for anything that might suggest you are your own worst enemy. Do you ever wonder about the Matrix. Jesus, I just remembered learning about something called the matrix when I was maybe 5 or 6. Now I'm off on a trip.... laters.
 
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MrSquished

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You have little faith. I suggest you read Rachel Maddow's new book.

I suggest you tell me how it's clear the United States is trending politically towards packing the court in order to take back control.

Actually just tell me who your dealer is, it's probably the same guy as @fskimospy
 

HomerJS

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Firearms are the great equalizer. It is the only effective form of self-defense for a 90lb woman to defend herself against a 280lb attacker. It puts her on exact equal footing in defending herself.

And, very ironically, historically stripping away second amendment rights really only negatively impacted middle class and lowers ability to defend themselves. Anyone wealthy enough can hire an armed bodyguard when they go out, live in gated communities, live in areas with low crime.

What anti 2a people really are doing is a detriment to the middle and lower class
How many times do people have to call you names before you get a clue?

No one I repeat no one has suggested banning all guns yet you bring it up as a strawman. I said it myself earlier that 90 lb woman gets a licensed handgun gets properly trained and evaluated she will be capable of defending herself against that 285 lb guy.

This is exactly why people dislike you already
 

APU_Fusion

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If you really want to do some damage you just rent a uhaul



Or do we ban those too? Even you could snap your fingers, these mentally unstable people are just going to find another way to do harm. Same thing with criminals. And now, the criminals know, innocent law abiding people have no effective way to defend themselves.


TBH my opinion on gun control is my only real "far right" opinion. But I am completely against any form of gun control other than mandatory training and mental health checks for any at risk individuals.
Say hello to my little friend So you good with anyone have any kind of gun? you are nuts.
 

APU_Fusion

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If you really want to do some damage you just rent a uhaul



Or do we ban those too? Even you could snap your fingers, these mentally unstable people are just going to find another way to do harm. Same thing with criminals. And now, the criminals know, innocent law abiding people have no effective way to defend themselves.


TBH my opinion on gun control is my only real "far right" opinion. But I am completely against any form of gun control other than mandatory training and mental health checks for any at risk individuals.
You are equating one offs with gun deaths? You are so bad at trolling.

About eight-in-ten U.S. murders in 2021 – 20,958 out of 26,031, or 81% – involved a firearm

Pew research

how many U-Haul bombs occurred? Also, you said you would vote for Trump over corrupt Biden while providing no evidence of President Biden’s corruption. You are obviously far right MAGAT trying to both side your nonsense. Not going to work in this forum with people of actual intelligence and ability to reason. You fake.

also, Japan had fucking nine gun murders in 2022. explain please. I mean why possibly could Japan have such little gun violence. 🤷‍♂️

Japan gun deaths
 

Moonbeam

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Nasty comment
He suffers from depression and has wisely chosen not to own a gun which has an unfortunate side effect. Undefended, he is psychologically more subject to imagined threats inducing paranoid fantasies about a right wing takeover. I can sit at home and diddle a massive shotgun barrel and calm myself right down with imaginative visions of the blown open guts of millions of confederate soldiers while he has to depend on other liberals by banging the nasty drum like our poor ape friends that hurl sticks from trees as the hoot at the moon. It's no skin off my nose and maybe it makes him feel better. The book would help but he may not read it. But the book is about how the US is always at war with fascism and has always won, and with lessons on how that's done. He's emotional though and can't deal rationally with his fear. I would like to help him calm down but can only do so much. He has to want to make some effort too. It's not that his fears are totally unfounded. It's just that he has already given up and the battle is far from lost and will, I believe, be won as it always has been. Every child is born in the image of God and has to be perverted to become a fascist. That means that fascism will never really win. Enough time goes buy and new generations will replace it. It is a biodegradable toxin.
 
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The problem is, someone who is hell bent on breaking a law to injure someone isn't going to care about this or any other law.

What we would be doing is focusing on mental health. I would even be okay with looser terms on what is required to have someone mentally evaluated after some borderline violent incident.


"classic example of a guy who should not be allowed to have a gun let alone an AR style" Rofl that shows how little you know about firearms. And someone who knows so little, tbh shouldn't even be involved in the conversation.
classic gop bot response
 
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If you really want to do some damage you just rent a uhaul



Or do we ban those too? Even you could snap your fingers, these mentally unstable people are just going to find another way to do harm. Same thing with criminals. And now, the criminals know, innocent law abiding people have no effective way to defend themselves.


TBH my opinion on gun control is my only real "far right" opinion. But I am completely against any form of gun control other than mandatory training and mental health checks for any at risk individuals.
I know you are new here, or an alt. But did you know if we allow gays to marry, you will want to fuck and marry your toaster?
 

[DHT]Osiris

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I remember when Obama made his health care plan the Republican health care plan and the Republican base…didn’t give a shit.
Yup, morons ate it up. Try taking away the ACA today, see what happens. Good policy is good policy once you get past the lump of idiots that firmly believes the conservative propaganda. Ironically that includes gun control, unfortunately that's a much bigger lump and there isn't enough gas in the liberal tank to make that work.
 
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pmv

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If you really want to do some damage you just rent a uhaul



Or do we ban those too? Even you could snap your fingers, these mentally unstable people are just going to find another way to do harm. Same thing with criminals. And now, the criminals know, innocent law abiding people have no effective way to defend themselves.

Yup, we ban those too. Or, at least, do more to keep them separated from vulnerable pedestrians (and cyclists), which means banning them from most urban areas, and imposing physical barriers to restrict where they can go.

I mean, it's significant that there have been several cases of vehicles being driven into crowds, where there was initially a great deal of confusion as to whether it was a terror attack or just standard-issue bad driving.

We need more motorised-vehicle control in general.

I've yet to hear of a terrorist trying to mow down a crowd by riding a bicycle into them.
 
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repoman0

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Yup, we ban those too. Or, at least, do more to keep them separated from vulnerable pedestrians (and cyclists), which means banning them from most urban areas, and imposing physical barriers to restrict where they can go.

I mean, it's significant that there have been several cases of vehicles being driven into crowds, where there was initially a great deal of confusion as to whether it was a terror attack or just standard-issue bad driving.

We need more motorised-vehicle control in general.

I've yet to hear of a terrorist trying to mow down a crowd by riding a bicycle into them.
Urban and otherwise highly populated areas designed for the people who live and gather there rather than vehicles passing through? That’s communism.
 

purbeast0

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I'm sure his 77 year old fat ass would have used a knife if he didn't have his gun. I'm sure he is just a badass that will use any tool to get the job done.

Or hmmm I wonder why he didn't just use the vehicle he was driving in the first place, since you know, they are death machines equivalent to guns as people have pointed out in this thread.
 

HomerJS

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I'm sure his 77 year old fat ass would have used a knife if he didn't have his gun. I'm sure he is just a badass that will use any tool to get the job done.

Or hmmm I wonder why he didn't just use the vehicle he was driving in the first place, since you know, they are death machines equivalent to guns as people have pointed out in this thread.
Clearly the answer is banning 77 year old white guys.
 
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pmv

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I'm sure his 77 year old fat ass would have used a knife if he didn't have his gun. I'm sure he is just a badass that will use any tool to get the job done.

Or hmmm I wonder why he didn't just use the vehicle he was driving in the first place, since you know, they are death machines equivalent to guns as people have pointed out in this thread.


Fortunate for Richard Griffiths that he has the rock solid alibi of having died a decade ago.

What the hell was that dude's motive? Just plain nuts? And what were the protestors protesting about? (The linked report doesn't really say very much)
 

woolfe9998

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Fortunate for Richard Griffiths that he has the rock solid alibi of having died a decade ago.

What the hell was that dude's motive? Just plain nuts? And what were the protestors protesting about? (The linked report doesn't really say very much)

There was a nationwide protest of the government awarding a 10 year contract to a Canadian company to maintain an open copper mine in an environmentally sensitive area. The protests were shutting down roadways all over the country. This guy was apparently angry that the protesters would not clear off so that he could drive through. That was his motive.

A couple other pertinent things:

He was arrested in 2005 after weapons – including an AK-47 and M-16 - were found in his Panama City apartment, but was acquitted after a court accepted his plea that the weapons were part of a collection.

So he gets off on that charge, but it gets worse:

However, if he is convicted, the 77-year-old could be sentenced to house arrest and not jail time on account of his age, according to local reports.


So he may end up with house arrest for a double murder because he's 77 years old.


 
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