The Supreme Court takes up a case that again tests the limits of gun rights

Page 4 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.

APU_Fusion

Senior member
Dec 16, 2013
971
1,477
136
I'm not sure what you aren't hearing here - if you live in a household with a firearm you are more likely to die than if you live in a house without one.
I see Pumpkin’s trolling is spreading across forums posts. He ignores posts that challenge him on his bullshit.
 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
84,775
49,434
136
If I live in a house with alcohol I'm more likely to die than in a house without alcohol

If I live in a house with a motorcycle I'm more likely to die than in a house without a motorcycle

etc etc
You still aren’t getting it. Do you buy alcohol or motorcycles for the purpose of self defense?
 

APU_Fusion

Senior member
Dec 16, 2013
971
1,477
136
If I live in a house with alcohol I'm more likely to die than in a house without alcohol

If I live in a house with a motorcycle I'm more likely to die than in a house without a motorcycle

etc etc
That is the single dumbest thing I ever read. Also, guns are the great equalizer? Lmfao. i know, let’s give everyone pocket nukes. This way everyone has MAD and all violence will stop. That is the logical end argument for you
 

APU_Fusion

Senior member
Dec 16, 2013
971
1,477
136
Nope, my original point of you not responding to fact checks or requests for evidence.
I challenged him the Biden post and he never responded because all he has is his Breitbart feels. I mean i am sure the Jews were very accommodating to the polite SS guard as he walked them into the gas chamber.
 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
84,775
49,434
136
One of my favorite things about the ‘self defense’ nonsense associated with guns is they surveyed individuals who reported having engaged in defensive gun use and asked them to describe what happened.

Amusingly enough, even when relying solely on the gun owners’ accounts of what happened, which are presumably the most favorable possible to them, in a large proportion of cases the ‘defensive gun use’ described was actually the gun owner committing a gun crime.
 

Fenixgoon

Lifer
Jun 30, 2003
31,808
10,343
136
One of my favorite things about the ‘self defense’ nonsense associated with guns is they surveyed individuals who reported having engaged in defensive gun use and asked them to describe what happened.

Amusingly enough, even when relying solely on the gun owners’ accounts of what happened, which are presumably the most favorable possible to them, in a large proportion of cases the ‘defensive gun use’ described was actually the gun owner committing a gun crime.
Firing warning shots?
 

K1052

Elite Member
Aug 21, 2003
46,831
34,770
136
That is the single dumbest thing I ever read. Also, guns are the great equalizer? Lmfao. i know, let’s give everyone pocket nukes. This way everyone has MAD and all violence will stop. That is the logical end argument for you

I personality feel unprotected with anything less than a twin mount 5 inch naval gun. I might want to hunt with it too.
 

APU_Fusion

Senior member
Dec 16, 2013
971
1,477
136
One of my favorite things about the ‘self defense’ nonsense associated with guns is they surveyed individuals who reported having engaged in defensive gun use and asked them to describe what happened.

Amusingly enough, even when relying solely on the gun owners’ accounts of what happened, which are presumably the most favorable possible to them, in a large proportion of cases the ‘defensive gun use’ described was actually the gun owner committing a gun crime.
But we are Mericans. We got ourselves big bad guns to stop gun crimes And violence in our society. I mean look at all the gun violence in Europe and Japan. They have way more guns than us …. Wait
 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
84,775
49,434
136
Firing warning shots?
I don’t think exact examples were given but the study surveyed these individuals and then asked a group of judges to evaluate the responses as to the legality of their actions and it turned out most of them were just criminals.
 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
84,775
49,434
136
But we are Mericans. We got ourselves big bad guns to stop gun crimes And violence in our society. I mean look at all the gun violence in Europe and Japan. They have way more guns than us …. Wait
It is darkly funny that the right wing response to huge numbers of people killed by guns each year by the like 400 million guns or whatever we have is that if we just had 401 million guns people would be safe.
 
Reactions: Fenixgoon

Moonbeam

Elite Member
Nov 24, 1999
72,685
6,195
126
Firearms are the great equalizer. It is the only effective form of self-defense for a 90lb woman to defend herself against a 280lb attacker. It puts her on exact equal footing in defending herself.

And, very ironically, historically stripping away second amendment rights really only negatively impacted middle class and lowers ability to defend themselves. Anyone wealthy enough can hire an armed bodyguard when they go out, live in gated communities, live in areas with low crime.

What anti 2a people really are doing is a detriment to the middle and lower class
They also mainly live is cities with police forces that are politically and financially motivated to have low response times. They aren't calling a sheriff that may be an hour away. For most of the world truth on only a matter of whose ox gets gored. How people see gun regulation depends for most on how they see guns, friend for self protection, sport, hobby etc., or evil with the risk of being because of what's on the news.

But understand, I support tightening gun restrictions designed to keep guns out of the hands of folk who may rationally represent a danger.

One of the key triggers that will make a man feel worthless is to be rejected by a woman, something self haters will unconsciously bring about because they can't believe in love and constantly test their partner's loyalty, driving them away in the process. Once this is triggered a self hater can become very dangerous. Same thing with losing a job or losing anything ego building related. This is all the more the case because the general population has no idea this is what is happening psychologically because everybody is avoiding that pain of being put down as children.

Without guns there would be no mass killings with guns but that's not where we are. No solution will be forthcoming from the crazies on both sides.
 
Reactions: PumpkinCake

PumpkinCake

Member
Nov 2, 2023
158
108
71
That is the single dumbest thing I ever read. Also, guns are the great equalizer? Lmfao. i know, let’s give everyone pocket nukes. This way everyone has MAD and all violence will stop. That is the logical end argument for you

That's literally how nukes work. Every country with nukes know if they nuke someone else they risk getting nuked.

In an armed society, any criminal with a gun knows that if they cause someone to fear for their life they risk getting shot.
 

PumpkinCake

Member
Nov 2, 2023
158
108
71
They also mainly live is cities with police forces that are politically and financially motivated to have low response times. They aren't calling a sheriff that may be an hour away. For most of the world truth on only a matter of whose ox gets gored. How people see gun regulation depends for most on how they see guns, friend for self protection, sport, hobby etc., or evil with the risk of being because of what's on the news.

But understand, I support tightening gun restrictions designed to keep guns out of the hands of folk who may rationally represent a danger.

One of the key triggers that will make a man feel worthless is to be rejected by a woman, something self haters will unconsciously bring about because they can't believe in love and constantly test their partner's loyalty, driving them away in the process. Once this is triggered a self hater can become very dangerous. Same thing with losing a job or losing anything ego building related. This is all the more the case because the general population has no idea this is what is happening psychologically because everybody is avoiding that pain of being put down as children.

Without guns there would be no mass killings with guns but that's not where we are. No solution will be forthcoming from the crazies on both sides.

One of the worst mass casualty attacks is the nice incident with a box truck. 86 killed, 434 injured.

Our worst mass shooting attack is the Vegas shooter from a few years back. 60 killed, 850 injured.


Removing guns will not remove these crazy people.
 

K1052

Elite Member
Aug 21, 2003
46,831
34,770
136
In an armed society, people exchange gunfire over increasingly petty bullshit.

This is the truth. More firearms not only do not decrease crime by deterrence they create a whole other huge crime problem.
 

Fenixgoon

Lifer
Jun 30, 2003
31,808
10,343
136
That's literally how nukes work. Every country with nukes know if they nuke someone else they risk getting nuked.

In an armed society, any criminal with a gun knows that if they cause someone to fear for their life they risk getting shot.
Yeah cause that's exactly how it works for us.

I'm sure all those murderers and mass shooters quake in their boots when they plan to kill people.

Or in the case of crimes of passion (or anything similar in vein) guns are the great escalator. What would have been an argument of words or a scuffle now becomes a deadly encounter.
One of the worst mass casualty attacks is the nice incident with a box truck. 86 killed, 434 injured.

Our worst mass shooting attack is the Vegas shooter from a few years back. 60 killed, 850 injured.


Removing guns will not remove these crazy people.
So the Vegas shooter would have killed 60 and injured 850 without guns?
 

Moonbeam

Elite Member
Nov 24, 1999
72,685
6,195
126
I really want to be clear that I am 100% advocating for banning all guns.

Also, owning a gun for self defense is irrational as it makes you and everyone you live with more likely to die.
I am guilty of all the evil in the world because I know what it would take to end it but I lack the knowledge as to how to convince you of it.
 

brycejones

Lifer
Oct 18, 2005
26,665
24,968
136
Everyone should have a Patriot battery in their yard in case someone hi-jacks a plane again.
 

eelw

Diamond Member
Dec 4, 1999
9,371
4,625
136
But understand, I support tightening gun restrictions designed to keep guns out of the hands of folk who may rationally represent a danger.
Okay let’s get back to this case. Was the original ruling right to take away his guns? Or his appeal the correct ruling because 2A trumps all?
 

brycejones

Lifer
Oct 18, 2005
26,665
24,968
136
Okay let’s get back to this case. Was the original ruling right to take away his guns? Or his appeal the correct ruling because 2A trumps all?
It's difficult to argue that people with a history of violence towards others are "responsible gun owners". But I'm really unsure how SCOTUS will rule since it seems the flood of blood from guns in this country is just what the tree of "liberty" demands.
 

Moonbeam

Elite Member
Nov 24, 1999
72,685
6,195
126
One of the worst mass casualty attacks is the nice incident with a box truck. 86 killed, 434 injured.

Our worst mass shooting attack is the Vegas shooter from a few years back. 60 killed, 850 injured.


Removing guns will not remove these crazy people.
The counter-arguments are all based on statistics that could not continue down the same course if guns were magically eliminated from the population. I can disagree with their conclusion only the utter futility of having that happen in the current reality. That is why I support work on the understanding of violence as related to self hate, and rational perhaps achievable gum regulations as negotiated by people of good will on both sides of the issue.
 

purbeast0

No Lifer
Sep 13, 2001
52,930
5,802
126
In an armed society, people exchange gunfire over increasingly petty bullshit.
Or responsible gun owners die by drinking alcohol then playing with their guns.


Keep in mind, these are responsible trained, park police who this happened to.

The one who was killed was a buddy's (I've known him online for over 2 decades) cousin.
 

MrSquished

Lifer
Jan 14, 2013
21,912
20,202
136
For some posters here, I think the definition of insanity is talking to the same style deranged people over and over again and thinking if they just keep trying, they might have a moment of rationality. From Greenman to now this guy, certain posters here have literally zero understanding of the enemy we are facing today.
 
Reactions: nickqt
sale-70-410-exam    | Exam-200-125-pdf    | we-sale-70-410-exam    | hot-sale-70-410-exam    | Latest-exam-700-603-Dumps    | Dumps-98-363-exams-date    | Certs-200-125-date    | Dumps-300-075-exams-date    | hot-sale-book-C8010-726-book    | Hot-Sale-200-310-Exam    | Exam-Description-200-310-dumps?    | hot-sale-book-200-125-book    | Latest-Updated-300-209-Exam    | Dumps-210-260-exams-date    | Download-200-125-Exam-PDF    | Exam-Description-300-101-dumps    | Certs-300-101-date    | Hot-Sale-300-075-Exam    | Latest-exam-200-125-Dumps    | Exam-Description-200-125-dumps    | Latest-Updated-300-075-Exam    | hot-sale-book-210-260-book    | Dumps-200-901-exams-date    | Certs-200-901-date    | Latest-exam-1Z0-062-Dumps    | Hot-Sale-1Z0-062-Exam    | Certs-CSSLP-date    | 100%-Pass-70-383-Exams    | Latest-JN0-360-real-exam-questions    | 100%-Pass-4A0-100-Real-Exam-Questions    | Dumps-300-135-exams-date    | Passed-200-105-Tech-Exams    | Latest-Updated-200-310-Exam    | Download-300-070-Exam-PDF    | Hot-Sale-JN0-360-Exam    | 100%-Pass-JN0-360-Exams    | 100%-Pass-JN0-360-Real-Exam-Questions    | Dumps-JN0-360-exams-date    | Exam-Description-1Z0-876-dumps    | Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps    | Dumps-HPE0-Y53-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-HPE0-Y53-Exam    | 100%-Pass-HPE0-Y53-Real-Exam-Questions    | Pass-4A0-100-Exam    | Latest-4A0-100-Questions    | Dumps-98-365-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-98-365-Exam    | 100%-Pass-VCS-254-Exams    | 2017-Latest-VCS-273-Exam    | Dumps-200-355-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-300-320-Exam    | Pass-300-101-Exam    | 100%-Pass-300-115-Exams    |
http://www.portvapes.co.uk/    | http://www.portvapes.co.uk/    |