Comes as no surprise - Tesla Model 3 delivery has been pushed out 6+ months from Q4 2017 to Q3 2018.
https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/...ow-hope-you-like-waiting-until-2018-or-later/
Didn't Tesla rush the Model X launch and deliver a bunch with defects? I'd hate to be one of the first in line for a Model 3... they are going to have crazy pressure on their QA guys at launch time.
Those aren't really hard commitments. They're refundable $1k deposits. As the car becomes more concrete, you'll see a few people backing out once they see the full details.
Didn't Tesla rush the Model X launch and deliver a bunch with defects? I'd hate to be one of the first in line for a Model 3... they are going to have crazy pressure on their QA guys at launch time.
I have a feeling some tesla 3 owners will cancel their order once they see the option list. The model s goes from 66k for the base to 167k for the fully optioned one, doubt the 3 will triple in price but double at least.
"Oh the autopilot is a 5k option? And the enhanced autopilot is another 3k option... on a 35k car?!? I thought this was standard..."
I have a feeling some tesla 3 owners will cancel their order once they see the option list. The model s goes from 66k for the base to 167k for the fully optioned one, doubt the 3 will triple in price but double at least.
"Oh the autopilot is a 5k option? And the enhanced autopilot is another 3k option... on a 35k car?!? I thought this was standard..."
Have they ever hit a production timeline?Finally, they announced the other day that anyone reserving a Model 3 today would be taking deliver in Mid-2018. That is pretty big in contrast to predictions of 2020.
Have they ever hit a production timeline?
With such a young company is past performance a good indicator of future performance?
The problem isn't necessarily with the company but Musk himself. He substantially delayed the roadster for some inconsequential door sill change, and the X for the wacky gull wing doors. Doesn't seem like someone who learns from mistakes even if the smarter employees do what they can to unshit the bed.
Comes as no surprise - Tesla Model 3 delivery has been pushed out 6+ months from Q4 2017 to Q3 2018.
https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/...ow-hope-you-like-waiting-until-2018-or-later/
Who's gonna be first...Elio or the Model 3?
Better built to me also means fit & finish which is sorely lacking on Teslas. From what little I've read there are non-trivial number of electronic issues but I'm not really familiar with those.
Not gonna happen anytime soon.
I know it's a unique car, but I wish it didn't have some of the features it has, such as the 17" touchscreen (too big & no physical buttons aside from the steering wheel controls), door handles that extend out (why? it's cool, but just another thing to break), etc.
I agree. It also looks too similar to the Model S IMO. I would think that they should have made something that looked like the Bolt actually. Ideally they would have partnered with an existing manufacturer and done like LG supply just the drivetrain and battery, let them handle he body frame and interior which are commodity.
Tesla I hear has pretty bad fit and finish and Qc not too surprising at all honestly. Ramping up production is more a test of endurance than brilliant innovation.
Still, hope they succeed.
Personally, I think the Model S looks fine. My issue with it is size. I simply don't need or want that large of a car in the city. The Model 3 on the other hand would fit my requirements more closely.
Since everybody is already or will be putting out electrics that look like run of the mill econoboxes I see little reason for Tesla to compete that strenuously for the exact same customer.
Well, that's the thing. They should have specialized on the drivetrain components and the battery chemistry and then licensed designs with existing manufacturers. Like, Tesla hasn't been so great at fit and finish they say. And it is losing a ton of money. Paring it down, so they aren't even bothering with doing everything like paint chemistries would be the rational thing to do. The big automakers have got down the part about mass production already.
From the earnings reports, essentially all of Tesla's gross profits on auto sales are used up by the operating side, ie the cost of all those service centers. Tesla's R&D and capital expenditures are financed by new equity offerings and loans. Capital expenditures also only affect profit/loss at a modest level since they have a long lifespan.AFAIK Tesla isn't loosing money on sales of the S or the X, just all the profit has been plowed back into the company for R&D projects and to launch the Model 3.
From the earnings reports, essentially all of Tesla's gross profits on auto sales are used up by the operating side, ie the cost of all those service centers. Tesla's R&D and capital expenditures are financed by new equity offerings and loans. Capital expenditures also only affect profit/loss at a modest level since they have a long lifespan.
When people point out that Tesla has unusually high gross margin (for an American car manufacturer), they forget to mention that it also has high operating costs.
Explain to me the 8 recalls I've had to have performed on my GM product.