The Things That Makes Trump Different

[jammix]

I know this sounds silly, but as well as observing Trump politically I've been binge watching his former TV show The Apprentice and I think I've hit upon what makes Trump different and what one of the secrets of his success is.

There is a problem in the west, sometimes called "virtue signaling" but even that I think may only be part of a larger problem. This greater problem might be named "incremental lying." Incremental lying is when someone tells a small white lie, counting on you to be polite and let them save face by not calling them on it. Then they add another small white lie, and another one, then once they think they have you, they try to force you to argue with them from a position that is based upon an aggregation of their misrepresentations.

What I've noticed about Trump is that the second someone misrepresents something or tells a lie of any kind, he calls them on it, usually immediately and reflexively. This means that he often does it mid-sentence. He doesn't allow anyone to build up a false narrative. In doing this he comes across as a "total jerk" but he also keeps things centered upon the reality of a situation (as he understands it) and not upon whatever aggregate fantasy the person he was talking to may have been trying to build.

There are lots of good reasons for being polite, particularly in traditional societies, but I think the exceptions have been eating the rule for some time now. We are essentially "post-fact" because people get away with building up fake dialogues, bit by bit, until they expect to proceed under the pretenses or conditions of their constructed dialogue. Trump is successful because he doesn't allow this to happen. Notably, he usually remembers to preface his disagreement with a statement that it's his opinion or perception. If done properly, I think Trump's approach is a very appropriate way to handle many things in life and his success can be taken as evidence of that.

 

[sandorski]

The secret to his success was exiting the proper vagina

 

[agent00f]

I know this sounds silly, but as well as observing Trump politically I've been binge watching his former TV show The Apprentice and I think I've hit upon what makes Trump different and what one of the secrets of his success is.

There is a problem in the west, sometimes called "virtue signaling" but even that I think may only be part of a larger problem. This greater problem might be named "incremental lying." Incremental lying is when someone tells a small white lie, counting on you to be polite and let them save face by not calling them on it. Then they add another small white lie, and another one, then once they think they have you, they try to force you to argue with them from a position that is based upon an aggregation of their misrepresentations.

What I've noticed about Trump is that the second someone misrepresents something or tells a lie of any kind, he calls them on it, usually immediately and reflexively. This means that he often does it mid-sentence. He doesn't allow anyone to build up a false narrative. In doing this he comes across as a "total jerk" but he also keeps things centered upon the reality of a situation (as he understands it) and not upon whatever aggregate fantasy the person he was talking to may have been trying to build.

There are lots of good reasons for being polite, particularly in traditional societies, but I think the exceptions have been eating the rule for some time now. We are essentially "post-fact" because people get away with building up fake dialogues, bit by bit, until they expect to proceed under the pretenses or conditions of their constructed dialogue. Trump is successful because he doesn't allow this to happen. Notably, he usually remembers to preface his disagreement with a statement that it's his opinion or perception. If done properly, I think Trump's approach is a very appropriate way to handle many things in life and his success can be taken as evidence of that.

You are correct in that Trump succeeds in part because polite people don't do this to him. For example, when he says climate change is a chinese hoax, the media should reveal that he says this to placate his uneducated & unethical base by playing on their animosity towards foreigners.

Similarly, they should also reveal that he disrupts his betters like a 5 year old because he's aware he cannot compete on a level where facts matters, and his base can relate to this sort of behavior.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

He makes the left/progressives foam at the mouth and spit forth hate like no PEOTUS in history has done. Something tells me their butthurt will not subside in the next 4 or possibly more years.

 

[agent00f]

He makes the left/progressives foam at the mouth and spit forth hate like no PEOTUS in history has done. Something tells me their butthurt will not subside in the next 4 or possibly more years.

Many liberals love paying white welfare to these types.

 

[MrSquished]

I know this sounds silly, but as well as observing Trump politically I've been binge watching his former TV show The Apprentice and I think I've hit upon what makes Trump different and what one of the secrets of his success is.

It doesn't just sound silly, i'ts fucking retarded. You binge watched a scripted reality TV show and now have this great insight into a person.

Please, psychoanalyze Kim Kardashian for your encore

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Many liberals love paying white welfare to these types.

I've had more federal tax withheld this year than the median US income. More than likely I'm providing your family with welfare that allows you to post for hours on end every day from their basement

 

[TheVrolok]

I've had more federal tax withheld this year than the median US income. More than likely I'm providing your family with welfare that allows you to post for hours on end every day from their basement

Dick waving is truly a lost form of rhetoric.

 

[agent00f]

I've had more federal tax withheld this year than the median US income. More than likely I'm providing your family with welfare that allows you to post for hours on end every day from their basement

Take a while to ponder the privileged circumstances which must exist when someone of your intelligence can credibly claim to earn much money. Like for example a stint in the taxpayer funded employer of last resort, and probably some education on their dime, too, and so on.

Also consider how much disproportionately less effort is actually necessary to dress people like that down from those who didn't need such welfare to succeed.

 

[MrSquished]

I've had more federal tax withheld this year than the median US income. More than likely I'm providing your family with welfare that allows you to post for hours on end every day from their basement

Move to Europe and stop bitching then

 

[repoman0]

Binge watching The Apprentice? You're wasting your life.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Move to Europe and stop bitching then

Who's bitching? If I was in Europe I would have to pay far more in taxes and for health care as well.

 

[MrSquished]

Who's bitching? If I was in Europe I would have to pay far more in taxes and for health care as well.

You were bitching.

Then may I suggest Russia or Asia. Go for it.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Take a while to ponder the privileged circumstances which must exist when someone of your intelligence can credibly claim to earn much money. Like for example a stint in the taxpayer funded employer of last resort, and probably some education on their dime, too, and so on.

Also consider how much disproportionately less effort is actually necessary to dress people like that down from those who didn't need such welfare to succeed.

Yes, I'm so privileged to work for a company that pays well and has many projects ongoing in the US that requires working from 6 x 10 hours/day to 7 x 12 hour/day per week. I have 25 years of experience providing technical advice on the equipment I work around. The company charges clients $3,000 - $4,500 per day for my services so they make a decent profit on my knowledge.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

You were bitching.

Then may I suggest Russia or Asia. Go for it.

I have a 4000 sq/ft house, 8 room apartment building and 6 acres of rice patty land in Indonesia and very well may choose to live their once I hit 67. I could live like a king off my SS check there.

 

[agent00f]

Who's bitching? If I was in Europe I would have to pay far more in taxes and for health care as well.

Makes total sense why you're all for the fascist who'd maximize the welfare going to his backers at the expense of everyone else.

Yes, I'm so privileged to work for a company that pays well and has many projects ongoing in the US that requires working from 6 x 10 hours/day to 7 x 12 hour/day per week. I have 25 years of experience providing technical advice on the equipment I work around. The company charges clients $3,000 - $4,500 per day for my services so they make a decent profit on my knowledge.

Congrats, after that gubmint paid career starter you get to market the stuff people who learned much of anything in school actually create, or research if their creation is even feasible. You know, those leftist nerds who're only right about everything because of some conspiracy.

 

[MrSquished]

I have a 4000 sq/ft house, 8 room apartment building and 6 acres of rice patty land in Indonesia and very well may choose to live their once I hit 67. I could live like a king off my SS check there.

Get a head start. Stop paying government subsidies to a variety of AT posters.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Makes total sense why you're all for the fascist who'd maximize the welfare going to his backers at the expense of everyone else.

Congrats you get to market the stuff people who learned much of anything in school actually create, or research if their creation is even feasible. You know, those leftists who're only right about everything because of some conspiracy.

I work for a foreign based company that's self insured, I pay $45 a week for Health/Dental/Vision/Supplemental insurance that covers my family deductible. My max out of pocket is $2,500.

Congrats for the last paragraph which shows how lost you really are.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Get a head start. Stop paying government subsidies to a variety of AT posters.

Naw, too much money to be made the next 9 years. Also want to see my children get their college education and making it on their own

 

[John Connor]

I know this sounds silly, but as well as observing Trump politically I've been binge watching his former TV show The Apprentice and I think I've hit upon what makes Trump different and what one of the secrets of his success is.

There is a problem in the west, sometimes called "virtue signaling" but even that I think may only be part of a larger problem. This greater problem might be named "incremental lying." Incremental lying is when someone tells a small white lie, counting on you to be polite and let them save face by not calling them on it. Then they add another small white lie, and another one, then once they think they have you, they try to force you to argue with them from a position that is based upon an aggregation of their misrepresentations.

What I've noticed about Trump is that the second someone misrepresents something or tells a lie of any kind, he calls them on it, usually immediately and reflexively. This means that he often does it mid-sentence. He doesn't allow anyone to build up a false narrative. In doing this he comes across as a "total jerk" but he also keeps things centered upon the reality of a situation (as he understands it) and not upon whatever aggregate fantasy the person he was talking to may have been trying to build.

There are lots of good reasons for being polite, particularly in traditional societies, but I think the exceptions have been eating the rule for some time now. We are essentially "post-fact" because people get away with building up fake dialogues, bit by bit, until they expect to proceed under the pretenses or conditions of their constructed dialogue. Trump is successful because he doesn't allow this to happen. Notably, he usually remembers to preface his disagreement with a statement that it's his opinion or perception. If done properly, I think Trump's approach is a very appropriate way to handle many things in life and his success can be taken as evidence of that.

Bill O'reilly?

 

[agent00f]

I work for a foreign based company that's self insured, I pay $45 a week for Health/Dental/Vision/Supplemental insurance that covers my family deductible. My max out of pocket is $2,500.

Congrats for the last paragraph which shows how lost you really are.

No, it's matter of fact that blue areas on the political map subsidized your sort's entire life until someone else was willing to pay for anything you learned to do on their dime, too---only for you to start getting mouthy about anyone else possibly getting a cut.

Too bad so many liberals don't mind paying child support to these badly brought up ingrates.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

He makes the left/progressives foam at the mouth and spit forth hate like no PEOTUS in history has done. Something tells me their butthurt will not subside in the next 4 or possibly more years.

yes, those are exactly the qualifications for running a country.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Binge watching The Apprentice? You're wasting your life.

CANNOT LIKE THIS ONE ENOUGH....
Besides some brain dead fuckwits, who spent their time watching this shit?

 

[Commodus]

To get back to the OP...

This argument would have merit if it weren't that Trump lies himself. Often. Blatantly. (As in, a quick Google search could completely demolish his claims.) He will even lie about having lied, even when you have video footage of him lying.

Yes, he'll reflexively call people out on things, but that doesn't mean that he's right. Remember how he would childishly yell "wrong!" during the debates? Yeah... more often than not, Clinton was right, and Trump just didn't like letting unpleasant truths go unchallenged. You're confusing a short-fused personality with honesty and perceptiveness. Shooting from the hip doesn't mean you're always shooting the bad guys.

 

[agent00f]

To get back to the OP...

This argument would have merit if it weren't that Trump lies himself. Often. Blatantly. (As in, a quick Google search could completely demolish his claims.) He will even lie about having lied, even when you have video footage of him lying.

Yes, he'll reflexively call people out on things, but that doesn't mean that he's right. Remember how he would childishly yell "wrong!" during the debates? Yeah... more often than not, Clinton was right, and Trump just didn't like letting unpleasant truths go unchallenged. You're confusing a short-fused personality with honesty and perceptiveness. Shooting from the hip doesn't mean you're always shooting the bad guys.

People who don't understand circumstantial tact are the smart ones.

These sort also can't grasp Trump can get away with it due to asymmetric power relationship (like pussy grabbing) as part of his birth right, and like to imagine his getting away with it means they should, too.