The Trump Tariffs thread

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BoomerD

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Massive GN video on the absolute train wreck Tariffs are for American companies:


It's far worse than most people could imagine.

Let me save many of you the trouble of the predictable quip you will pat yourself on the back for: "NVidia already ruined affordable computing".

This is serious adult shit, and it affects everything, not just computers.

Ahem…

 
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Indus

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I would think China understands that at this point they can't let Trump save too much face, they got to keep the screws in there for a little bit longer. They are too smart not to realize this. It should be interesting how this plays out.

One thing is becoming abundantly clear:

Due to lowering education levels of America.. we're fast becoming 2 different countries.

Most of us are incompatible with the braindead trumpanzees who have 1 agenda (pwn the libs) and we the educated have another.. (economic growth)

Did even 1 MAGAturd understand or foresee that Trump had a hope and a dream but no bullets in his trade war?

A country run by unable to critically think MAGAtards becomes a shithole country itself!

I mean this is their critical thinking level:

 
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biostud

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China is not going to do anything, just let Trump keep wrecking everything.
Yup, I'm pretty sure they can weather the pressure much better than he can, so they're going to wait until he comes with his hat in the hand making US the beggars to China. Because what allies do US have to fight a trade war against China?...Russia?
 

Josh128

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Funny thing is, a non-retarded tariff amount, say 15%-25% would have been much easier to hold over a long term and possibly even have more desired effect than the imbecillic 145%+ tariffs that he put on.
 
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fskimospy

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Funny thing is, a non-retarded tariff amount, say 15%-25% would have been much easier to hold over a long term and possibly even have more desired effect than the imbecillic 145%+ tariffs that he put on.
Maybe, but I tend to doubt it. I think the primary problem here is a total loss of credibility for the US. There's no point in making substantial concessions to Trump that you actually plan on following through on because there is no reason to expect the US will abide by your agreement.

China's playbook from Trump I is probably the best bet for people here. Make a deal with Trump that he can brag about and then just ignore it and don't do any of the things you promised.
 

Indus

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Maybe, but I tend to doubt it. I think the primary problem here is a total loss of credibility for the US. There's no point in making substantial concessions to Trump that you actually plan on following through on because there is no reason to expect the US will abide by your agreement.

China's playbook from Trump I is probably the best bet for people here. Make a deal with Trump that he can brag about and then just ignore it and don't do any of the things you promised.

I agree..

Basically just like google search.. the US had a default setting.. in economic trade and deals..

But Trump basically said fuck off and go use someone else.

Now everyone is basically not willing to trust the US again.. especially not under Trump.
 

Jaskalas

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I agree..

Basically just like google search.. the US had a default setting.. in economic trade and deals..
But Trump basically said fuck off and go use someone else.
Now everyone is basically not willing to trust the US again.. especially not under Trump.
A post-Trump United States can only be trustworthy for four years.
That is not enough. It may begin to thaw relations, but it will NEVER go back to what it was.
MAGA would need to cease to exist for us to stand a chance in the world again.

And the longer it takes us to... move past them, the more the world will forget they could ever trust us.
Someday it will not even be an option, as there will be no one left who remembers the good times.
 

Heartbreaker

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Now everyone is basically not willing to trust the US again.. especially not under Trump.

Not only that but even if the Trust is regained under a future administration, some damage may be permanent.

In Canada Car dealer Association is arguing we should allow EU standard Cars in Canada. Right now they have to be certified to US standards.

But skipping that and allowing EU certified cars straight into Canada would be a big boon to Canadian Consumers, and big blow to US car manufactures from increased competition.

If this happens, it won't be rolled back, even when a more sane administration returns in the USA.
 
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QueBert

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A post-Trump United States can only be trustworthy for four years.
That is not enough. It may begin to thaw relations, but it will NEVER go back to what it was.
MAGA would need to cease to exist for us to stand a chance in the world again.

And the longer it takes us to... move past them, the more the world will forget they could ever trust us.
Someday it will not even be an option, as there will be no one left who remembers the good times.

After he lost to Biden I laughed when MAGAts would say Trump would win again, but after 2024 I don't dare laugh anymore. They're claiming now Vance will be president in 2028, as much as that sounds impossible and I want to laugh. I was certain there was no way Trump would win in 2024. So the US might stay MAGA for a long time. I don't think Vance would be any better than Diaper Don.
 

Indus

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After he lost to Biden I laughed when MAGAts would say Trump would win again, but after 2024 I don't dare laugh anymore. They're claiming now Vance will be president in 2028, as much as that sounds impossible and I want to laugh. I was certain there was no way Trump would win in 2024. So the US might stay MAGA for a long time. I don't think Vance would be any better than Diaper Don.

Think AOC needs to start calling Tariff Man a Cave Man after his caving on Tariffs..

But with MAGA brains.. they will want Cave Man for POTUS next..

 

Heartbreaker

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After he lost to Biden I laughed when MAGAts would say Trump would win again, but after 2024 I don't dare laugh anymore. They're claiming now Vance will be president in 2028, as much as that sounds impossible and I want to laugh. I was certain there was no way Trump would win in 2024. So the US might stay MAGA for a long time. I don't think Vance would be any better than Diaper Don.

They clearly have ZERO respect for the rule of law, or the constitution, or any other impediment to their power.

I doubt there will be fair midterms, let alone fair elections by 2028.
 
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