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nOOky

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We received an email today from a major vendor announcing the impacts of the tariffs and how they may affect their pricing going forward. My MAGA boss always says that nobody is actually reacting to the tariffs, I just chuckle at him. He can fill out all of those new PO's in the future, and sit there and explain why he's spending so much.
 
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And now the tariffs are postponed, AGAIN, this time till 2 April....err probably, I guess. I mean, who the fuck knows with the Clusterfuck-in-Chief and his mighty band of numb nuts running the show!

Only partially. Allegedly, on USMCA compliant goods.

I know what's good for the economy: someone doing tariffs on/tariffs off like they're Homer Simpson jumping in and out of the US Embassy in Australia, with a layer of opacity on what the tariffs will or will not apply to.
 
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We received an email today from a major vendor announcing the impacts of the tariffs and how they may affect their pricing going forward. My MAGA boss always says that nobody is actually reacting to the tariffs, I just chuckle at him. He can fill out all of those new PO's in the future, and sit there and explain why he's spending so much.
For funsies, you should include old POs for identical items for reference and bullet out how much costs went up from tariffs that the buyer is now paying.

Some people apparently need a coloring book to understand something really basic.
 
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SteveGrabowski

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Bernie says we have to build a movement against the oligarchy that is ruling the country in the tradition of the great movements we've had: abolitionist, civil rights, women's rights, gay rights. His response to last night:

Should have fucking listened to him when there was a chance to save the nation. Now we're Nazi Germany.
 

Muse

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Maaaaybe, just maaaaybe Trump is a senile spearhead pushed and controlled by the billionaires around him, by his simple instinctive responses to complex stuff, in a ploy to destroy american way of life and democracy, suffer for a few years of economical loses (of which the billionaires are insulated) and then start to buy everything and make USA a Corporate State, everything privatised and ruled by oligatchs that defacto will rule America?
Great opinion piece, check it out, and the comments.

Here is a very exceptional comment with a very inciteful perspective on what's going on right now in America. The oligarchs (yes, we are in a full blown oligarchy right now), have a very different view of things than 99.9+% of Americans.

Bruce Rozenblit
Kansas City, MO
March 5
When you are fabulously wealthy as is Trump, Musk, and many Trump appointees, you can live anywhere you want. You can do anything you want. You can get the best medical care anywhere. You don't need the government for anything. In fact, the government becomes an impediment to your freedom and just gets in the way. How dare the government take any of your earnings. After all, by virtue of your wealth, you are the real expert and know more about the world than those pesky bureaucrats and tax collectors who are paid from your earnings.

But when you work for wages, you are middle class or lower, you can't do those things for yourself. You need the government to protect you from time to time and provide a safety net if things go seriously wrong like recession, or serious illness, or storms.

This is why Trump and company wants to tear everything down. The government just gets in his way. It always has. It investigates him and prevents him from doing what he wants. To him, that's tyranny.

But to the rest of us, that's fairness, that's the rule of law. We see hundreds of thousands of people who have no connections, no generational wealth get ahead in the world and make substantial contributions to society through the government. Trump calls that DEI. We call it equal opportunity.

What is left after that opportunity is removed? Shock and awe and the rubble left in its wake.

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The article is a great read:

This link expires in 13 days, so Mar. 19, 2025:

 
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For funsies, you should include old POs for identical items for reference and bullet out how much costs went up from tariffs that the buyer is now paying.

Some people apparently need a coloring book to understand something really basic.
That boss will just fire lay off some employees, blame Biden, and call it a wash.

Big tech has been hemorrhaging workers for a while because how else do you pay for AI Nvidia data center GPUs? I think Goldman Sachs recently announced a round of layoffs. CEOs are ready to issue pink slips, and it won't take a whole lot of trade warring to tip the world into a global recession.
 

SteveGrabowski

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I think there is a tendency to see complexity where there isn't any to explain what appear to be the most moronic decisions one could make done in a slapdash way. At the end of the day Trump is just a fucking moron (to quote his first Secretary of State) pushing buttons he doesn't understand.
Trump has shown repeatedly he is one of the most evil people on earth so I'll default to evil over stupidity to explain his actions.
 
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SteveGrabowski

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He's evil and stupid. They aren't mutually exclusive.
I don't think he's pushing random buttons. He has been doing this for years where he likes to keep everyone guessing if he's going to do the crazy thing, he keeps threatening it and pulling back at the last second, threatening and pulling back at the last second, threatening and pulling back at the last second, but he eventually does the crazy thing. No different than ISIS doing mock executions to fuck with their prisoners. This is the kind of lunatic running the nation.
 
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I don't think he's pushing random buttons. He has been doing this for years where he likes to keep everyone guessing if he's going to do the crazy thing, he keeps threatening it and pulling back at the last second, threatening and pulling back at the last second, threatening and pulling back at the last second, but he eventually does the crazy thing. No different than ISIS doing mock executions to fuck with their prisoners. This is the kind of lunatic running the nation.
He's not some mastermind. He thinks people coming for "asylum" were in mental asylums, thinks trade deficits are like corporate balance sheets, and thinks everything is zero sum. He's actually pretty stupid.
 

MrSquished

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I don't think he's pushing random buttons. He has been doing this for years where he likes to keep everyone guessing if he's going to do the crazy thing, he keeps threatening it and pulling back at the last second, threatening and pulling back at the last second, threatening and pulling back at the last second, but he eventually does the crazy thing. No different than ISIS doing mock executions to fuck with their prisoners. This is the kind of lunatic running the nation.
Oh no he's definitely just stupidly pressing buttons. That is for sure. He's a fucking idiot. But yes also evil.
 

SteveGrabowski

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He's not some mastermind. He thinks people coming for "asylum" were in mental asylums, thinks trade deficits are like corporate balance sheets, and thinks everything is zero sum. He's actually pretty stupid.
Never said he's a mastermind. But he's not a monkey beating down on a keyboard either. He's a sociopath who likes to play with his food and he thinks everything is zero sum because that's the way he has operated his businesses: stealing from marks.
 
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Muse

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Should have fucking listened to him when there was a chance to save the nation. Now we're Nazi Germany.
Did you watch that Bernie video? Near the end he explains that what's needed in America right now is another of the handful of major movements in American history involving millions of people, this one being to fully undo the turning of America into what it is today, a full blown oligarchy.

America is being ruled by billionaires, pure and simple, and every damn one of them is a miscreant.
 
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SteveGrabowski

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Did you watch that Bernie video? Near the end he explains that what's needed in America right now is another of the handful of major movements in American history involving millions of people, this one being to fully undo the turning of America into what it is today, a full blown oligarchy.
And again it would have been nice if the democrats would have listened nine years ago, or even last year when the nation could have been peacefully saved. I am surprised he basically said go get your guns and overthrow the tyrants though.
 

nOOky

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For funsies, you should include old POs for identical items for reference and bullet out how much costs went up from tariffs that the buyer is now paying.

Some people apparently need a coloring book to understand something really basic.
We always review pricing when buying capitol equipment like that, anything over 5k almost automatically, things over 250k need the big bosses approval and you gotta sit in front of him and explain the reasoning etc.
 
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MrSquished

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I don't think I've seen that Canada is returning the new Trump move and pausing their tariffs on us. In fact all I've seen is Trudeau saying this is going to be a long -term trade war.

I'm hoping he doesn't do shit and just keeps it up. Trump is backing down because his negotiating position sucks that's when you keep the pressure on
 
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I don't think I've seen that Canada is returning the new Trump move and pausing their tariffs on us. In fact all I've seen is Trudeau saying this is going to be a long -term trade war.

I'm hoping he doesn't do shit and just keeps it up. Trump is backing down because his negotiating position sucks that's when you keep the pressure on
We have paused in place with the tariffs on the first $30 billion The second round against $125 Billion won’t take effect as we wait.
 

Muse

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US: We're having an egg supply problem, could you please help us?
Canada: Hm, we can't send you our A, B, or C eggs.
US: What about Ds?
Canada: You can absolutely suck deez eggs!
Just send some geese down here just prior to nesting season, thanks, Donald Trump.
 

Muse

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I don't think I've seen that Canada is returning the new Trump move and pausing their tariffs on us. In fact all I've seen is Trudeau saying this is going to be a long -term trade war.

I'm hoping he doesn't do shit and just keeps it up. Trump is backing down because his negotiating position sucks that's when you keep the pressure on
Trump is playing brinksmanship with the tariff threats. He may have been serious but as he sees his tariff edifice coming apart at the seams he's "pausing" them, moving the start dates beyond today, next today to be determined.

Uh, have a single one of these been implemented yet?
 

BoomerD

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Just send some geese down here just prior to nesting season, thanks, Donald Trump.
We have a plethora of Canada geese here. Trump will probably post some kind of levy/tariff on those Canadian Geeses...How dare they just wander around and shit on America?

Duh...Trump will just re-name them American Geese...problem solved.
 
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