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VRAMdemon

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Republicans in 1980: "The market is God, all hail the omnipotent market. Capitalism till the end of time!"

Republicans today: "LOL, the market is dead. All hail the new God, a former NYC sex pest reality TV star. We luv u daddy!

"People are saying!" ... . I watched FOX for a 1/2 hour yesterday. The topics covered, in order, were the EPA Museum that Trump is closing, a female fencer refusing to compete against a trans athlete, and GEN Z quit retiring. Not a peep about the multi TRILLION DOLLAR! loss on the market. There wasn’t even a crawl across the bottom of the screen. No wonder the brains of so many Americans are mush. FOX, and the look alikes that they’ve inspired, are dumbing down the American public at an alarming rate.

FOX nitwit Jeanine Pirro says: - "Stocks plummeting isn't necessarily a negative"

Just like it doesn't hurt anymore when someone stops hitting you in the head with a hammer!

Jeanine Pirro, a woman worth $14 million, doesn't care if others suffer. MAGA in a nutshell. These people who spent the whole Trump first term saying the stock market is the barometer of how good a President is doing now want to tell you it doesn't matter. Can you imagine if Biden or Obama tanked the market and Rachel Maddow told viewers she doesn't care about her 401k and it might even be a good thing?

Trillions of dollars evaporating is not negative? Keep trying to put lipstick on the pig.
 

Jaskalas

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Humans absolutely have the capacity for learning lessons, sometimes the hard way.

To your point, MAGAts on the other hand...
They are whipped up into a religious fervor for a political party / movement.
Propaganda FILLS the air around them, be it radio, TV, or social media.
24/7 it fills their heads. Reverberates through their skulls.

And you still imagine there's some capacity for them to learn their ideas are wrong?
The propagandists they love most will just tell them to blame others. To hate others. To harm others.
I do not call MAGA a Nazi movement for nothing. They WILL arrive at final solutions unless everyone bows. Even then... when the world is not enough. When enslaving others is not enough. Their hate fueled agenda will still drive them into committing greater atrocities. The font of human depravity knows no bounds. Its pools have no depth.

And humanity has been here before. Time and again. We keep doing it. Again and again. This time is no different.
 
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Jaskalas

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Even if you think this is a bit far out there, it seems that America is now a Centrally Planned Economy...
That is why it is illegal for a United States President to decide tariffs. The role of deciding those taxes is for Congress.
Yet he still does. Because MAGA has not seated a President, they have crowned an Emperor for our New Empire.
As such, you are correct. The American economy is now centrally planned. Only functioning for gifts and bribes to the Emperor.
 
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manly

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They are whipped up into a religious fervor for a political party / movement.
Propaganda FILLS the air around them, be it radio, TV, or social media.
24/7 it fills their heads. Reverberates through their skulls.

And you still imagine there's some capacity for them to learn their ideas are wrong?
The propagandists they love most will just tell them to blame others. To hate others. To harm others.
I do not call MAGA a Nazi movement for nothing. They WILL arrive at final solutions unless everyone bows. Even then... when the world is not enough. When enslaving others is not enough. Their hate fueled agenda will still drive them into committing greater atrocities. The font of human depravity knows no bounds. Its pools have no depth.

And humanity has been here before. Time and again. We keep doing it. Again and again. This time is no different.
I guess I was too subtle.

I was clearly differentiating between evolved humans, and MAGAts.
 

misuspita

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They are whipped up into a religious fervor for a political party / movement.
Propaganda FILLS the air around them, be it radio, TV, or social media.
24/7 it fills their heads. Reverberates through their skulls.

And you still imagine there's some capacity for them to learn their ideas are wrong?
The propagandists they love most will just tell them to blame others. To hate others. To harm others.
I do not call MAGA a Nazi movement for nothing. They WILL arrive at final solutions unless everyone bows. Even then... when the world is not enough. When enslaving others is not enough. Their hate fueled agenda will still drive them into committing greater atrocities. The font of human depravity knows no bounds. Its pools have no depth.

And humanity has been here before. Time and again. We keep doing it. Again and again. This time is no different.
If you've seen those north Korean people escaping the country and knowing how bad it is inside, you know what propaganda can do to people. They knew how bad it was inside, but still seeing pictures of the ruler they burst into tears. Such is the programming of the human mind, it devolved into subconscious reactions and triggers. This is what they are doing to Maga people. They will never see the light as long as they're fed with the great leader's vision. Replace Kim with Trump, replace fear of the decadent west with trans kids and democrats and you've got yourself a North American Korea in the making....
 

RalphTheCow

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So after the shock of the stock market, next we start getting shortages of absolutely everything. There is not enough scorn and contempt in the world to heap on this effing guy. Figures Navarro would rise up to get even with the world by screwing it up completely. Just one of the many great people the orange stain pardoned. My contempt for Trump voters is going off the charts. I am absolutely flabbergasted that so many otherwise seemingly sane people put this jerk back in charge after so many warnings.
 
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On the stock market piece of this you can’t imagine how many lives I was personally involved in destroying in all of this.

The number of margin sellouts we were forced to do yesterday was staggering. Cementing losses against people they can’t absorb. You can argue the merits of them being leveraged etc… but were it not for one man this would not have happened and that’s a fact.

These aren’t corporations or the Uber wealthy. Normal every day people
 
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[DHT]Osiris

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On the stock market piece of this you can’t imagine how many lives I was personally invoked in destroying in all of this.

The number of margin sellouts we were forced to do yesterday was staggering. Cementing losses against people they can’t absorb. You can argue the merits of then being leveraged etc… but were it not for one man this would not have happened and that’s a fact.

These aren’t corporations or the Uber wealthy. Normal every day people
And what's absolutely shit is, you get to find out next week if it was a good idea and someone else is going to be eating even more of the shit sandwich.
 

Josh128

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They are whipped up into a religious fervor for a political party / movement.
Propaganda FILLS the air around them, be it radio, TV, or social media.
24/7 it fills their heads. Reverberates through their skulls.

And you still imagine there's some capacity for them to learn their ideas are wrong?
The propagandists they love most will just tell them to blame others. To hate others. To harm others.
I do not call MAGA a Nazi movement for nothing. They WILL arrive at final solutions unless everyone bows. Even then... when the world is not enough. When enslaving others is not enough. Their hate fueled agenda will still drive them into committing greater atrocities. The font of human depravity knows no bounds. Its pools have no depth.

And humanity has been here before. Time and again. We keep doing it. Again and again. This time is no different.
This is exactly it. These people WORSHIP Trump and the whatever he does. The vaccine was OK when developed under Trump, when Biden took over and pushed it, it was the plague. I work with a man whose own father died from COVID after refusing to take the vaccine...and it didnt change his mind about the vaccine at all. I know of two other families with the same take.

I told mentioned to several people yesterday how Trump got on global television and lied to every single person watching about the tariff rates shown from other countries, calling them tariffs when they were simply trade deficits. They either came back with, oh but Trump knows what hes doing or "where did you see that, it must be fake news".

I, a Catholic Christian and center right in my politics, mentioned to my best friend, a Protestant Christian (who has since become even more radicalized in far-right propaganda) that there are some extremely strong similarities between the description of the anti-Christ in the books of Daniel and Revelation and Trump, and he was so offended he basically said we need to stop talking about this or we will not continue to be friends. I mentioned this in the first Trump term! Not from reading it online or any other source, just from reading it in the bible and being an expert nooticer, lol. My friend is extremely intelligent, is a very good programmer versed in multiple code languages, designs and builds electronics, and can read and somewhat write in Japanese and German. Yet he believes Sandy Hook was a hoax, vaccine bad, 2020 election was stolen, you name it. I cant wrap my head around it. I dont blindly trust any politician, let alone worship them.
 

Muse

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My friend is extremely intelligent, is a very good programmer versed in multiple code languages, designs and builds electronics, and can read and somewhat write in Japanese and German. Yet he believes Sandy Hook was a hoax, vaccine bad, 2020 election was stolen, you name it. I cant wrap my head around it. I dont blindly trust any politician, let alone worship them.
Your friend has a lot of talents but he's not well educated.
 

DZero

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This is exactly it. These people WORSHIP Trump and the whatever he does. The vaccine was OK when developed under Trump, when Biden took over and pushed it, it was the plague. I work with a man whose own father died from COVID after refusing to take the vaccine...and it didnt change his mind about the vaccine at all. I know of two other families with the same take.

I told mentioned to several people yesterday how Trump got on global television and lied to every single person watching about the tariff rates shown from other countries, calling them tariffs when they were simply trade deficits. They either came back with, oh but Trump knows what hes doing or "where did you see that, it must be fake news".

I, a Catholic Christian and center right in my politics, mentioned to my best friend, a Protestant Christian (who has since become even more radicalized in far-right propaganda) that there are some extremely strong similarities between the description of the anti-Christ in the books of Daniel and Revelation and Trump, and he was so offended he basically said we need to stop talking about this or we will not continue to be friends. I mentioned this in the first Trump term! Not from reading it online or any other source, just from reading it in the bible and being an expert nooticer, lol. My friend is extremely intelligent, is a very good programmer versed in multiple code languages, designs and builds electronics, and can read and somewhat write in Japanese and German. Yet he believes Sandy Hook was a hoax, vaccine bad, 2020 election was stolen, you name it. I cant wrap my head around it. I dont blindly trust any politician, let alone worship them.
There are smart people who will go blindly to war since they in fact are emotionally weak.
 

Muse

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DZero

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