Tariffs on China would have been great in the 90s to kill their manufacturing sector before it really got off the ground and save ours. Now they're stupid when there is little to save and China is a dominant manufacturer. Closing the fucking barn door thirty years after the horse ran out and all.
I’m waiting for someone on the right who isn’t a complete idiot. You know someone who knows that free trade doesn’t mean tariffs or penalties for having a trade deficit. Hell, give me someone who understands that trade deficits and understands that they aren’t necessarily a bad thing. I’m not holding my breath though.
You can’t even articulate what “winning” looks like, all you can do is parrot Trump talking points. Your dumb ass is complaining about losing jobs while Trump is firing thousands of high paid workers who he wants to replace with lower paying factory jobs that aren’t ever coming back unless we get rid of all trade, let alone “free trade”.
Say something dumb again, I dare you!
The issue is not taking down the "non proffitable" jobs, but affected the high proffitable ones!It's amazing how Trump and his brainwashed followers remain motivated by the same half-baked economic ideas Trump has always had: A fixation on trade deficits. It's rooted in the zero-sum notion that if we buy more from a country than we sell to them, we’re being “ripped off.” It’s been told repeatedly by economist after economist, expert after expert that trade deficits aren’t inherently bad - that they often reflect strong domestic demand or a robust service economy. Trump and his cult don't care. The misunderstanding is the point. And Trump will drag the global economy into a ditch rather than learn how it works.
Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent in his interview with Tucker Carlson:
“The president is reordering trade… we are shedding excess labor in the federal government… that will give us the labor we need for the new manufacturing.”
Sooooo! Are laid-off NIH cancer researchers really going to find jobs in the iPhone factories that are being relocated to America? This nonsense barely registers on the MAGA meter. Is this the vision? : Take NIH scientists, coders, artists, researchers, and teachers and force them into low-wage jobs doing whatever robots can’t yet do. Not because it’s efficient. Not because the work isn’t valuable. But because they are who the far right considers dangerous, people who know how the system works, and might challenge it.
Trump’s tariffs aren’t just bad economics. They’re part of a declaration of economic war on the America that didn’t vote for him. Destroying universities, starving higher education. It’s about political control. Education has always been a democratizing force. It creates citizens who are harder to intimidate, likely to demand fair treatment, and less willing to obey autocrats. It delays childbirth, disrupts patriarchal family structures, and builds civic coalitions that threaten right-wing hegemony. It's all under attack.
The MAGA worldview and "wokeness" is built on the grievances of conservative men: angry that women increasingly don’t want to date them, that younger generations are abandoning the religion that once gave them automatic status, that they are no longer guaranteed a high-paying job out of high school without having to compete with the “liberal nerds in college” or with immigrants, or with workers of color overseas. Trump’s tariffs are imagined as a cure-all: destroy the livelihoods of the educated men they resent, displace women from the professional fields where they thrive, and reassert dominance over a labor force they believe was rightfully theirs.
As far as I know China has refused all his calls since he was elected. They have no incentive to stop him from destroying America's position in the world.
LOL Now MAGA is not happy EU is actually building it's own defense industry to compete with Americans.. which means lower profits for American companies.
Rubio threatening EU that will not be seen in a good way but Trump and the EU reply with helping Russia and putting tariffs on the EU will not be seen in a good way by the EU.
To be honest, these 100 plus countries doesn't matter. There are only really three trading blocs worth talking about; the EU, China and India. The rest is rounding errors mostly.
Canada is a huge rounding error… same with Mexico.To be honest, these 100 plus countries doesn't matter. There are only really three trading blocs worth talking about; the EU, China and India. The rest is rounding errors mostly.
India seems to be folding to the Trump pressure. The EU and China won't fold so easily.
But its the uncertainty in the economic rules that governs everything now. No investments worth of any size will now be approved. Too much chaos. And as the video posted above by @biostud, the disparity in the prices and capability between Chinese manufacturers and American ones is vast. 800% pricing differential. Trump would have to put on 800% tariffs on China to get American manufacturers a boost. Otherwise he is just tinkering on the edge.
In reality he is trying to raise revenue to pay for his tax cuts for the rich folk. A former Australian Prime Minister;
Aussie tariffs funding Trump tax cuts: Morrison
Australian officials should be wary of offering compromises on trade barriers that US firms complain about as it may not move Donald Trump, former PM Scott Morrison says.www.afr.com
No it isn't. Total Chinese imports to the US in 2024 were 462 Billion. Total imports from Canada were 273 Billion. That's more than half. That is no rounding error.Canada is a huge rounding error…
Was my point…. To say only three regions matter is wrong.No it isn't. Total Chinese imports to the US in 2024 were 462 Billion. Total imports from Canada were 273 Billion. That's more than half. That is no rounding error.
Oh yeah! I heard people talking about getting enough Rs angry and courageous enough to flip and abandon the sinkiing T rump ship to get a veto-proof majority. I didn't realize that was a thing. Or they could really get some balls and impeach and convict him this time.Oops, I wasn’t thinking that Trump would never sign the senate tariff retraction even if it got through the house. Drat. In that sense I guess he unfortunately DOES. have a mandate in that he can do whatever the flock he wants.
The idea that somehow manufacturing wasn't happening in the US is completely devoid from reality. Lots of things are made here, just not cheap bs widgets. And we were seeing a manufacturing comeback with things like the CHIPS Act supporting domestic semiconductor.Tariffs on China would have been great in the 90s to kill their manufacturing sector before it really got off the ground and save ours. Now they're stupid when there is little to save and China is a dominant manufacturer. Closing the fucking barn door thirty years after the horse ran out and all.
The idea that somehow manufacturing wasn't happening in the US is completely devoid from reality. Lots of things are made here, just not cheap bs widgets. And we were seeing a manufacturing comeback with things like the CHIPS Act supporting domestic semiconductor.
In other news, it's fantastic to see everyone jerking off about "manufacturing jobs", as if other jobs are not Real Jobs™. People's ancestors would have killed to have so-called "email jobs" instead of having a place on the doohickey assembly floor.
The idea that somehow manufacturing wasn't happening in the US is completely devoid from reality. Lots of things are made here, just not cheap bs widgets. And we were seeing a manufacturing comeback with things like the CHIPS Act supporting domestic semiconductor.
In other news, it's fantastic to see everyone jerking off about "manufacturing jobs", as if other jobs are not Real Jobs™. People's ancestors would have killed to have so-called "email jobs" instead of having a place on the doohickey assembly floor.
Trump is the heir to the throne of the kingdom of idiots when it comes to economics.The IRA sent manufacturing construction through the roof. Trump is killing all that of course.
Oh yeah people are so well off with Uber jobs and Doordash jobs.The idea that somehow manufacturing wasn't happening in the US is completely devoid from reality. Lots of things are made here, just not cheap bs widgets. And we were seeing a manufacturing comeback with things like the CHIPS Act supporting domestic semiconductor.
In other news, it's fantastic to see everyone jerking off about "manufacturing jobs", as if other jobs are not Real Jobs™. People's ancestors would have killed to have so-called "email jobs" instead of having a place on the doohickey assembly floor.
Yes, it's not working for everyone. But also, most people are not working Uber and Doordash and we should stop pretending that everything was complete shit.Oh yeah people are so well off with Uber jobs and Doordash jobs.