The Trump Tariffs thread

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China at 125% and EU at 20% with the rest of the world at 10% is still going to majorly raise prices on everything. Consumers will still get hit and are going to be angry.
Don't forget arbitrarily wiping out some chunk of people's wealth for shits and giggles.
 

DZero

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The only thing I'd consider right now is either selling more as stuff recovers, in anticipation of the next shit show, or continuing to have low price limit buy orders for the next collapse.

It doesn't matter how high they go. After a certain percent, it's basically a de facto trade ban.
Actually looks like a trade ban... heck, literally Trump blocked China's exports and won't be surprised if at the end blocks Vietnam and India eventually.

Also... this is so artificial....
 
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Actually looks like a trade ban... heck, literally Trump blocked China's exports and won't be surprised if at the end blocks Vietnam and India eventually.

Also... this is so artificial....
If I was a company, I'd just look to skirt country of origin things and just move stuff through a third country. With the Trump administration slashing through public sector workers, they wouldn't have the manpower to investigate or enforce against such shenanigans.

"It's not made in China. It's made in ugh... Vietnam, I mean India, stop asking questions."
 

K1052

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Except everything covered by the USMCA which was, well, almost everything.

Or are we back to going against the agreement this shit head himself negotiated?

Nobody knows which it means so far. Which is what you get setting trade policy Trump style. We'll see.
 

linkgoron

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Pretty weird that Apple etc have gone up so much when China tariffs are still on, but it's clear that everything is on fire. AMD up 19% lol, Nvidia 14%, Apple 11%. I assume that people are expecting Trump to back off of China as well.
 
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Pretty weird that Apple etc have gone up so much when China tariffs are still on, but it's clear that everything is on fire. AMD up 19% lol, Nvidia 14%, Apple 11%. I assume that people are expecting Trump to back off of China as well.

Hard to make sense of anything at the moment.
 

DZero

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Pretty weird that Apple etc have gone up so much when China tariffs are still on, but it's clear that everything is on fire. AMD up 19% lol, Nvidia 14%, Apple 11%. I assume that people are expecting Trump to back off of China as well.
Even Intel is at 16%, but still didn't recovered 5 days ago... so, is so artificial this thing... I am starting to fear what is the next move.
 

ivwshane

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Gotta love stock manipulation at the highest levels. This certainly has musks fingerprints all over it.
 

linkgoron

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Even Intel is at 16%, but still didn't recovered 5 days ago... so, is so artificial this thing... I am starting to fear what is the next move.
NDX and SPX are still lower (currently) than April 1st either way, but it'll probably go higher when Europe buys in as well.

Not sure what Trump's game is except grifting, because the market is just pure chaos right now.
 

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NDX and SPX are still lower (currently) than April 1st either way, but it'll probably go higher when Europe buys in as well.

Not sure what Trump's game is except grifting, because the market is just pure chaos right now.

I think most of us predicted a Trump declaration of victory based on some nonsense within a month followed by a suspension of most tariffs.

Meanwhile the rest of the world will be planning to reduce their dependence on the US both militarily and economically and there will be just one long term loser - America.

I just don't know if America can honestly be seen as a long term investment haven either after what transpired.
 
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Sheesh, I remember when all those Tory MPs and advisors got into trouble for betting on the date of the election. All these shenanigans with announcing tariffs, rolling them back, reannouncing them again, while the market shoots up and down like a yoyo, makes them look like complete amateurs.
 

SteveGrabowski

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The next president should be a Millennial. The rest of you cohorts can't be trusted.
Yeah Millennials have had to enter the job market deep into the derivatives crash of 2008 and then had what should have been their prime earning years crushed by Trump's treating the pandemic as a PR problem so they understand full well the taste of the capitalist boot America has shoved in their faces their entire adult lives. So I definitely trust them more than my Generation X that was the last to have education that wasn't cripplingly expensive and last to be able to enter a reasonable white collar job market after graduation.
 

Roger Wilco

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Trump the malleable.

When asked later about the reason for his decision, Trump told reporters, “Well, I thought that people were jumping a little bit out of line.”

“They were getting yippy, you know, they were getting a little bit yippy, a little bit afraid,” Trump said at the White House.
 
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