The Trump Tariffs thread

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cytg111

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So while China's budget is only 2/3'rds of US, China has the advantage of being a regime. No one is going to topple Xi, meanwhile a week into Tariff la-la land and the rank and file of Trumtards were about ready to set his hair on fire.
Xi just has to wait it out, Trump will strangle himself.
 

fskimospy

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So while China's budget is only 2/3'rds of US, China has the advantage of being a regime. No one is going to topple Xi, meanwhile a week into Tariff la-la land and the rank and file of Trumtards were about ready to set his hair on fire.
Xi just has to wait it out, Trump will strangle himself.
That and China knows the rest of the world no longer trusts the US and so this is a long term play for trade dominance by China.

Trump is just so fucking stupid it hurts. Even if a trade war was a good idea (and it's ABSOLUTELY NOT) a smart person would pick one or two countries to go after, they would not declare war on the entire world.
 

cytg111

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That and China knows the rest of the world no longer trusts the US and so this is a long term play for trade dominance by China.

Trump is just so fucking stupid it hurts. Even if a trade war was a good idea (and it's ABSOLUTELY NOT) a smart person would pick one or two countries to go after, they would not declare war on the entire world.
I mean even if it WAS the plan to go round the table you'd still pick em one at a time.
This is death by a thousand self-inflicted wounds.

All the traders and trade shows I listen to in Europe is the same, US(well Trump) cant be trusted and no one is going to move manufacturing there, cause shit may change again tomorrow or six months from now. It's just a toxic environment for investment money.
 

fskimospy

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I mean even if it WAS the plan to go round the table you'd still pick em one at a time.
This is death by a thousand self-inflicted wounds.

All the traders and trade shows I listen to in Europe is the same, US(well Trump) cant be trusted and no one is going to move manufacturing there, cause shit may change again tomorrow or six months from now. It's just a toxic environment for investment money.
Exactly, and this is common sense.

Tax and regulatory policy in the US is very obviously subject to the whims of a mentally ill criminal. What sane business would expose themselves to that sort of risk?
 
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Saylick

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This whole situation that Trump put us in is so fucked. If I were Xi, why wouldn’t I use my leverage to publicly embarrass Trump when he finally capitulates? Make Trump publicly apologize and back off or the pain continues, which he won’t willingly want to do but I honestly think China holds the cards here. The only thing a bully like Trump understands is power, so to put him in his place you gotta fight fire with fire. I don’t want the US to lose its hegemony but at the same time someone needs to show Trump in the only way he understands that he’s not as powerful as he thinks he is.
 

biostud

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I mean even if it WAS the plan to go round the table you'd still pick em one at a time.
This is death by a thousand self-inflicted wounds.

All the traders and trade shows I listen to in Europe is the same, US(well Trump) cant be trusted and no one is going to move manufacturing there, cause shit may change again tomorrow or six months from now. It's just a toxic environment for investment money.
If China were the target, you really should have EU, Canada, Mexico, Japan, South Korea etc. working together with a common strategy.
 
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Indus

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If China were the target, you really should have EU, Canada, Mexico, Japan, South Korea etc. working together with a common strategy.

For the Republicans.. non male, non Christian, non straight and non white America is the target.

The ideal scenario for this is be like Hungary.. take over the government, beat down on dissent, get rid of free and fair elections and be horrible to the bad people.

Hopefully they kill themselves or leave so they don't have to march them into sterlization clinics or gas chambers.

Only then will they be strong enough with the dark side to create JESUSLAND!


If you think I'm just ranting.. just look at who/ what they're targetting in their policies. Does it look like their policies towards China even make any sense?
 
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Indus

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Did not expect to see this on bsky

 

Indus

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There was a time we used to say when the history books are written.. it will not be flattering for him..

But realistically who's gonna read them? Not MAGA! And they'll likely be banned from Amazon too.
 

DaaQ

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Tossing this here
Reindustrialization is not the goal.
Goal is to shift population away from traditional population centers to red states.

Reintroduction of factory towns in abandoned flyover states is the sales pitch and is more about a very specific goal of setting up "economic zones" run by private entities instead of public where laws and government are run by a very specific class of citizen.

State level laws crafted around far right circle perks working together with corporate towns to create low level jobs where wages are just enough to promote starting families.
Create education institutions specializing skills required to fill out the workforce and align with religious dogma of the red state government.

They want to recreate the 1970s so that they can enjoy old school country music while ruling over a poorly educated, yet highly skilled work force who are easily manipulated.
This post reminded me of Racoon City and Umbrella. For starters.
The other memory it sparked was the movie, Don't worry Darling. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10731256/
 

outriding

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Can we stop saying that every horrible thing is some sort of distraction?

Trump is not destroying the world economy to distract you from something else. He’s just insane and dumb and doesn’t know any better.

That’s exactly what trump wants you to think

He has clearly outsmarted you

I for one know he is a grandmaster at 4d chess
 

K1052

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I think the original 20% tariff that was put on before he went totally nuts still applies. But not the rest of the insanity.

Not great news for all the small/medium businesses who cannot lobby Republicans and bribe the president. If they need any components or items from China they are still super fucked.
 

allisolm

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After days of the admin sending people to go on TV saying we're going to make iPhones in the US the admin has exempted smartphones from the tariffs:

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Phones and computers. Electronics.

"Electronics imported to the United States will be exempt from President Donald Trump’s sweeping tariffs, according to a US Customs and Border Protection notice posted on Friday." CNN

edit: sorry. I left out the link to the notice. Have added it.

Here is the U.S. Customs and Borders notice defining the exemptions but I'm not going to look up all those numbers.


 
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Muse

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After days of the admin sending people to go on TV saying we're going to make iPhones in the US the admin has exempted smartphones from the tariffs:

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Tariff poker. iPhones going from $1200 to $3500 was a WTF moment for the public. People with brains were saying making iPhones in the USA wasn't something they deem doable in sensible timeframe.
Phones and computers. Electronics.

"Electronics imported to the United States will be exempt from President Donald Trump’s sweeping tariffs, according to a US Customs and Border Protection notice posted on Friday." CNN

Here is the U.S. Customs and Borders notice defining the exemptions but I'm not going to look up all those numbers.
We are in flop-flip city.
 

Indus

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Phones and computers. Electronics.

"Electronics imported to the United States will be exempt from President Donald Trump’s sweeping tariffs, according to a US Customs and Border Protection notice posted on Friday." CNN

Here is the U.S. Customs and Borders notice defining the exemptions but I'm not going to look up all those numbers.

So Microwaves and Instant Pots are exempt because they're "electronics"?
 

Panino Manino

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Phones and computers. Electronics.

"Electronics imported to the United States will be exempt from President Donald Trump’s sweeping tariffs, according to a US Customs and Border Protection notice posted on Friday." CNN

Here is the U.S. Customs and Borders notice defining the exemptions but I'm not going to look up all those numbers.

Orange man is so weak, after Chinese oficiais having said that they don't about losing the murrican market.
 
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