The Trump Tariffs thread

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uclaLabrat

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China cuts off all US beef imports, 2.5 billion a year, America's third largest export market for beef. Getting its beef from Australia instead lolol

so much winning!

So this means local prices will plummet due to oversupply, right? Right?
 

RnR_au

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We don't have much meat to spare to sell to China. In the recent Qld floods its estimated that Qld farmers lost over 140000 head of cattle and sheep.
 
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dainthomas

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It's just bizarre. I can't keep up - is there a timeline/summary of all the pronouncements so far? And has he flip-flopped again since this post yesterday?

Also, is anyone actually collecting any of these tariffs in the brief intervals between his announcing them and rescinding/suspending/delaying them/denying they ever existed? Does the infrastructure for collecting them even exist, and how do those responsible for them manage to keep pace with the constantly-changing rules?

Nobody has been collecting anything because of some system issue. But prices are still up.
 
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iRONic

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Also, is anyone actually collecting any of these tariffs in the brief intervals between his announcing them and rescinding/suspending/delaying them/denying they ever existed? Does the infrastructure for collecting them even exist, and how do those responsible for them manage to keep pace with the constantly-changing rules?
Post #2297 right up there says:


“Thanks to a technical glitch, Donald Trump’s tariffs haven’t even been collected at U.S. ports.

On Friday, U.S. Customs and Border Protection reported that an entry code in the U.S. system for American ships to use to have their freight exempted from tariffs isn’t working, and “the issue is being reviewed.” As a result, no tariffs are being collected by the U.S. government for the time being.“

“If there were doubts about the tariffs being a wise policy, those have increased several times over the fact that U.S. authorities can’t even implement them.“
 

Muse

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Forcing the Chinese to eat mutton?!?!

Trump has them right where he wants them!
Trump is being very two-faced (who's surprised?). Saw a short clip on TV yesterday in which he was saying he doesn't blame China for the problems but Americans for off-shoring to China. But since I'm reading him saying that the Chinese are treating us worse than anybody.
 

cmcartman

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China cuts off all US beef imports, 2.5 billion a year, America's third largest export market for beef. Getting its beef from Australia instead lolol

so much winning!

"Before Donald Trump's "Liberation Day" tariff hikes, American beef exporters were already facing problems with their third-largest market.

According to the US Meat Export Federation, American pork and poultry plants had their export registrations with China renewed on March 16, but China "had still not renewed the eligibility of any US beef establishments".

"The majority of US beef production is now ineligible for China," it said."


They skipped pork because of Smithfield, they're entirely Chinese owned.


Haven't been following the thread, but China has been using bogus registration requirements on certain imports since the end of last year.
 
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pmv

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Post #2297 right up there says:


“Thanks to a technical glitch, Donald Trump’s tariffs haven’t even been collected at U.S. ports.

On Friday, U.S. Customs and Border Protection reported that an entry code in the U.S. system for American ships to use to have their freight exempted from tariffs isn’t working, and “the issue is being reviewed.” As a result, no tariffs are being collected by the U.S. government for the time being.“

“If there were doubts about the tariffs being a wise policy, those have increased several times over the fact that U.S. authorities can’t even implement them.“

So the whole thing is purely performative? Trump making pronouncements that don't actually mean anything? Other than, of course, causing wild oscillations in the stock market.

Or are some tariffs being collected, just in random and inconsistent ways? I could imagine some organisations are dutifully transferring the money to the government, even if the government hasn't got the systems in place to register that it's being received.

Just a complete clownshow.
 
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K1052

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China Orders Halts to Boeing Jet Deliveries as Trade War Expands

China has ordered its airlines not to take any further deliveries of Boeing Co. jets as part of the tit-for-tat trade war that’s seen US President Donald Trump levy tariffs of as high as 145% on Chinese goods, according to people familiar with the matter.
Beijing has also asked that Chinese carriers halt any purchases of aircraft-related equipment and parts from US companies, the people said, asking not to be identified discussing matters that are private.

Been a rough few years for Boeing and that’s not gonna help.
 
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Josh128

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Pete Hegseth just said China could disable or destroy the entire US global aircraft carrier fleet in less than 20 minutes with its latest hypersonic missile tech. Said the US loses the "war games" simulations against China that the Pentagon puts on, every time.

I think the reason for all this nonsense is that this admin recognizes China is now firmly ahead of the US in many regards and this is Trumps idiotic way to try to curb their progress?
 
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dank69

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Pete Hegseth just said China could disable or destroy the entire US global aircraft carrier fleet in less than 20 minutes with its latest hypersonic missile tech. Said the US loses the "war games" simulations against China that the Pentagon puts on, every time.

I think the reason for all this nonsense is that this admin recognizes China is now firmly ahead of the US in many regards and this is Trumps idiotic way to try to curb thier progress?
Pete Hegseth said... well that can be immediately dismissed as a lie then, can't it?

The guy is bat shit crazy, at this point there should be zero doubt of that.
There has been zero doubt about that since his days on The Apprentice. Anyone believing otherwise was lying to themselves.
 

Panino Manino

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Pete Hegseth just said China could disable or destroy the entire US global aircraft carrier fleet in less than 20 minutes with its latest hypersonic missile tech. Said the US loses the "war games" simulations against China that the Pentagon puts on, every time.

I think the reason for all this nonsense is that this admin recognizes China is now firmly ahead of the US in many regards and this is Trumps idiotic way to try to curb their progress?

If only this were true... What a dream! China destroying murrica in a hour!

But remember the "nuclear deficit" lie?
That's how they justify the one trillion military budget.
 
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dank69

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If only this were true... What a dream! China destroying murrica in a hour!

But remember the "nuclear deficit" lie?
That's how they justify the one trillion military budget.
Yeah our expiring hardware from the 90s is enough to stop Russia but China, China stands a chance. We only outspend them what? 10 to 1?
 
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