The Trump Tariffs thread

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sdifox

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I still cannot fathom, even after a decade, how an average American adult human being could listen to or read a word that comes out of Trump and think, “Yep. There is a smart guy who’s on top of his economic game for America and Americans. That’s my man!”
Because they are as dumb as Donny?
 
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K1052

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West coast cargo traffic has collapsed.

Chinese freight ship traffic to busiest U.S. ports, Los Angeles, Long Beach, sees steep drop

For the week ending May 3, the number of freight vessels leaving China and headed to the Southern California ports, the main U.S. ports receiving Chinese freight and other Asian trade, is down 29% week-over-week, according to Port Optimizer, a tracking system for ships. Year-over-year, the data shows a 44% drop in vessels scheduled to arrive the week of May 4-May 10.

This data is updated on a daily basis based on the vessel manifests declaring the port destination. These vessels are either scheduled to leave Asia or are already on the water and headed to these ports.

Twelve vessels are scheduled to come in this week, down from 22 the week of April 20. Measured in shipping containers, a total of 62,568 TEUs (twenty-foot equivalent units) are arriving the week of May 4-May 10, versus 120,608 TEUs as recently as the week of April 20-April 26.

The fallout from the ocean freight slowdown is beginning to hit ground transport linked to ports.

“We are at a tipping point on the West Coast,” said Ken Adamo, chief of analytics at DAT Freight & Analytics. “Looking at how many truck loads are available versus trucks, we’ve seen a precipitous drop, over 700,000 loads have evaporated nationally in the past week compared to two weeks prior,” he said.
 
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Josh128

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lol, all stupid bluster. Trump folded on phones and PCs/electronics in less than a week, without end users ever having to pay a penny more than usual. I called it weeks ago. Trump will drop or drastically reduce the tariffs at the first sign of blowback by the public or the slightest concession by China, then again claim hes the best thing that ever happened to the economy.
 

ch33zw1z

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lol, all stupid bluster. Trump folded on phones and PCs/electronics in less than a week, without end users ever having to pay a penny more than usual. I called it weeks ago. Trump will drop or drastically reduce the tariffs at the first sign of blowback by the public or the slightest concession by China, then again claim hes the best thing that ever happened to the economy.

So woke
 

Josh128

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Woke is the new "I dont suck off politicians, but call out their BS regardless of their persuasion" ?? Since when?

You act as if Trump didnt drop the reciprocal tariffs on all countries besides China less than a week after he announced them, and exempted iphones and PC equipment from Chinas reciprocal tariffs just days after escalating them, lol. Since when did that not happen??
 

ch33zw1z

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Woke is the new "I dont suck off politicians, but call out their BS regardless of their persuasion" ?? Since when?

You act as if Trump didnt drop the reciprocal tariffs on all countries besides China less than a week after he announced them, and exempted iphones and PC equipment from Chinas reciprocal tariffs just days after escalating them, lol. Since when did that not happen??

🤷‍♂️ the beauty of buzz words for conservatives is they can mean anything.
 

RnR_au

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I still cannot fathom, even after a decade, how an average American adult human being could listen to or read a word that comes out of Trump and think, “Yep. There is a smart guy who’s on top of his economic game for America and Americans. That’s my man!”

Read 'Deer Hunting with Jesus' by Joe Bageant. Came out in 2006 after the Bush election and in my humble opinion is still very much relevant.
In Deer Hunting With Jesus, Bageant discusses how the Democratic Party lost the political support of poor rural whites and how the Republican Party has convinced them to "vote against their own economic self-interest". The book is mainly centered on his hometown of Winchester.

This book sold decently in Australia, so much so that;
After Bageant's death, his Australian publisher asked Bageant's literary executor, Ken Smith, to select and edit about 80,000 words of his essays. The book was published in November 2011 as Waltzing at the Doomsday Ball: The Best of Joe Bageant.[12] That posthumous collection was available only in Australia, New Zealand, and South Africa where, according to Smith, it sold reasonably well. According to Smith, "no American publisher is yet interested in a book by a redneck socialist—and that says a lot about American culture and the US book business."

Personally I've only been able to read the book in short sessions as it drives up my anger levels, despite me not having visited America ever. Its description of an effective feudal society at the local level in the 21st century in a first world country is utterly baffling.
 
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K1052

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Look at this bitch flail


The absolute shitstorm that's going to hit the US this summer when all kinds of stuff that people and companies don't know comes from China goes missing will be one for the history books. Xi just gonna sit there and watch.
 
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MrSquished

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Literally the absolute worst deal maker in the world. All the guy does is bloviate about having all the cards and all the gold, and then bluffs, and then backs down like a little because he doesn't have a good hand. What a fucking joke. I mean a lot of us here knew this but Jesus Christ seeing it in action on such a scale is impressive.
 

K1052

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Literally the absolute worst deal maker in the world. All the guy does is bloviate about having all the cards and all the gold, and then bluffs, and then backs down like a little bitch. What a fucking joke. I mean a lot of us here knew this but Jesus Christ singing in action on such a scale is impressive

He's clumsily trying to lure the Chinese into negotiations. I'm skeptical they will take the bait.
 

MrSquished

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He's clumsily trying to lure the Chinese into negotiations. I'm skeptical they will take the bait.
I don't think they will I think they realize they have the better hands and Trump needs to be showed up. I hope they drag this out because that's what this country needs to see via experience. It sucks that us and millions of other actual decent human beings will also have to suffer, but just that's just the way it has to go down unfortunately.
 
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Indus

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He's clumsily trying to lure the Chinese into negotiations. I'm skeptical they will take the bait.

He doesn't know the Chinese at all.

Only their blood will wipe the insult off.

For insulting them they will insist on him and his administration to show up for either castration or execution.

And that's how they proceed when they are in a war. The defeated enemies are made to choose between castration or execution!

So we're gonna be in this for 4 years at a very minimum!
 

K1052

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I don't think they will I think they realize they have the better hands and Trump needs to be showed up. I hope they drag this out because that's what this country needs to see via experience. It sucks that us and millions of other actual decent human beings will also have to suffer, but just that's just the way it has to go down unfortunately.

China can take more pain than we can on this front. Once inventory depletes over here people are going to lose their minds and Trump will have to go to them begging.


He doesn't know the Chinese at all.

Only their blood will wipe the insult off.

For insulting them they will insist on him and his administration to show up for either castration or execution.

And that's how they proceed when they are in a war. The defeated enemies are made to choose between castration or execution!

So we're gonna be in this for 4 years at a very minimum!

I think there is a deal to be done but at this point it's more likely to be on their terms than ours. For whatever that is worth since any Trump deal is basically meaningless.
 
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VRAMdemon

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He was handed a steadily climbing market, inflation numbers were finally starting to settle and adjust, he could have grabbed a hold of that shooting star and let it carry him into the history books.

Instead, he shot both of his feet clean off with a double barrel shotgun. I haven’t seen a self-own like this in….well, ever!

Trump tanked the good economy that Obama handed to him in his last term. The difference this time is that he's tanking the economy in record time, and more spectacularly than the last time. He's that fucking dumb that he didn't learn from his own fucked up history.

Remember during the campaign Trump said the stock market was doing great because investors thought he would be elected. That aged well.

Trump is showing the world (again!) why he is a failed businessman. All he does is cause chaos whatever he touches. He literally torched a good running economy to a now a likely recession, layoffs, raising prices, tariffs and rising interest rates. In normal times you wouldn't blame a President alone for the state of the economy but as usual Trump is the exception to the rule.
 

QueBert

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This is an outstanding video explaining why "making shit in America" might sound like a great idea to some, but isn't fesable at all. And she breaks everything down so even MAGAts should be able to follow along. I know they wouldn't care tho lol.
 
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