the truth about INTEL vs AMD

NOS440

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A tbird can't touch a P-3 clock for clock in games and thats the plain truth. The reason for this is what people don't seem to understand or refuse to except. Its all because of SSE and Intel great support for it. If AMD would get off there dead A$$ and develop a compiler to optimize the strength of there processor than they would win. AMD doesn't do this because people are buying there chip more than ever and rather than go the extra mile for there customers they are just sucking in the profits. This type of behavoir will bring there demise in the long run !!!
 

Tonec

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Buy a cheap duron/tbird combo and invest the money saved in a higher end video card. That will do far more to increase fps than sse instructions.
 

mikelou26

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so
there we go rights?

THEN WHY ARE PEOPLE STILL SAYING AMD KILLS INTEL? IN EVERYTHING?

WHY IS THAT?
DO PEOPLE REALLY HATE INTEL OR SOMETHING?
 

NOS440

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Well I already have the best video card and a P-3 and have also had Athlons and I think the P-3 is much better all around CPU for me anyway's.

Yes alot of people do hate intel but thats normal for those with little minds to hate the guy on top
 

Mikewarrior2

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Noooo!!! You brought out the resident Intel Zealot on this forum.

There is no point arguing with NOS440. He has intel's supposed superiority ingrained into his brain that he will not believe anything that says otherwise.


Mike
 

mikelou26

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amd COSTS cheaper ( my next machine will be amd BASED)
and also the motherboard and the VIA chip set for AMD is buggy

BUT doesnt PERFORM AS well as INTEL

 

NOS440

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People that base there buying decision on the cost are just cutting themself short the CPU accounts for a small percentage of your total system cost But does the most work. I would think it would be the last place a Educated Person would cut costs.
 

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I think they both are great, although I would agree Intel has a slight edge when it comes games. I think Intel is a little more compatible with older and newer hardware, too. For the price/performance ratio, AMD kills Intel. Intel's Pentium 4 is looking really sweet, but I think they better start lowering their chip prices, or more and more people will be making the switch to AMD.
 

Dexion

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Mikelou: You seem to be a person with few words and few facts. Although Intel does perform slightly better clock for clock, the difference between them are almost unnoticable. If you look at the benchmarks for both Quake and UT, both are within each other +5/-5 FPS, which has LITTLE advantage. One thing that those benchmarks don't test are, non-game performance 3D Rendering FPU-crunching applications such as 3D Studio Max 3.0 or SPECviewperf. In those benchmarks, the Athlon Tbird makes a huge difference blowing away the P3 whereas the Intel 1Ghz never loses the Tbird far behind. What really BLOWS away the INTEL is the price. At less than 2% difference in performance and more than 20% gain in some 3D applications(3DSMAX) its already a good processor, and at only 55% the cost($252 on Pricewatch) of the P3 1Ghz($454), it just doesn't make sense to purchase the Intel.

Many unexperienced hardware users "think" that the VIA chipset isn't as stable, which is infact untrue! If you look at the products that VIA produces, they make chipsets for both platforms; Intel and AMD with motherboard manufacturers such as ASUS, MSI, and Abit using their technology. Infact, a few months ago many of the overclockers where raving about the Asus P3V4X which is a VIA chipset P3 platform Slot 1 board. To say that VIA is unstable, is very incorrect.




 

Dexion

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NOS440 If you were truly educated, I suggest you read some reviews comparing the processors. Thunderbird 1Gz Mind you that this review was written when the processor came out, a 1Ghz goes for $252 on pricewatch. If you want to pay more, then buy the worlds fastest(usuable) processor Tbird 1.2Ghz for $492(only $40 more than a P3 1Ghz).
 

NOS440

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Sure I'll go out and buy a 1.2 ghz processor that can barely keep up with my existing P-3 at the game I play the most Quake 3....... LOL!!!!!!! funny besides my current processor cost me 260.00 and runs at 1107 mhz (without having to repencil it once a week) and will kick the sh!t out of any TBird !!!!!!!!!! Oh and let me add this is all on a VIA chipset Motherboard !!!!!
 

Dexion

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Well your overclocked CPU doesn't mean anything. Your just one of the lucky ones that picked up a gem that can go 1.1Ghz, I'm sure there aren't many. However, this doesn't mean that nobody can get an extremely overclockable AMD counterpart. I'm sure there are a few Tbird 750s@1.2Ghz(that paid much less than $220 for the processor) on this forum and I bet ya that he would still beat ya 5-10 fps at the same resolution and with the same Vid card. Whats the point? Nothing!!! 5-10 fps increase won't make you frag more in the game. Get real. If you were to buy a system now, who wouldn't get a Duron or a Tbird? Price/performance is what counts.

As for pencilling, its so simple to mark the pins! If you feel its a hassle, just use a permanent conductive pen.

 

NOS440

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There is no point just my oppinion isn't that what these forums are for to share opinions and experiences??? Its not that hard to find 180 to 200 dollar chips from intel that overclock 30 to 60 percent in fact its very likely that a 700 will go at least 900 by just a Quick bios adjustment. Yes mine is a jewel and a ton of these jewels are soon to be out the cC0 steppings rule !!!!! You will all see soon.
 

Dexion

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<< funny besides my current processor cost me 260.00 and runs at 1107 mhz (without having to repencil it once a week) and will kick the sh!t out of any TBird !!!!!!! >>



funny, it won't beat a Tbird 1.2Ghz! And don't forget that some people have already OCed it to 1.3-1.4ghz. You can always try and buy a 1Ghz and go for the same! too bad it won't go farther than 1.13Ghz. LOL!

 

mikelou26

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dexion

everything
that u said
about the price/ performance
i have already
STATED

BEFORE
I SAID VIA chip SET FOR AMD is buggy

geese man
READ



 

Dexion

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<< Its not that hard to find 180 to 200 dollar chips from intel that overclock 30 to 60 percent in fact its very likely that a 700 will go at least 900 by just a Quick bios adjustment. >>



Well I can easily find a Tbird 900 for $165 that guarantees 900MHZ without voiding the warranty! Better yet, you can use a pencil(laying on your desk) and unlock the processor and go for 1.1Ghz with a quick bios Adjustment. hmm.. whats better?
 

NOS440

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And still be slower than a 1 ghz Oced P-3 700 I might add. price price is that all you guy's worry about Daaaaaaaaaa
 

NOS440

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I really don't want to go any faster than my system is now there is no reason at this point and time. Also I would like to hear from all these guy's stabily running there Tbird at 1.4 ghz I think your dreaming.
 
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