And as usual, you're lying.Except every socialist, communist , progressive and most Democrats.
About as specific as needed.
That's specific.
I recognize that I or a member of my family could become ill with disease that could wipe me out financially. I recognize that medical bankruptcy is nonexistent in other 1st world nations and is the leading type of bankruptcy in America. I watched my in-laws be wiped out with medical issues, it took them a few years but they were able to transition from middle class to impoverished poor people. They died with nothing other than medical bills. You live in a fantasy world where you think medical issues only affect bad people or liberals and thus you will never be affected. You could not be more wrong.
Socialized medicine is an absolute benefit to middle class people and also to corporations which are saddled with paying for it.
Glenn, we were at one time equivalent to Europe. Now look at us. It is troubling though that it is also growing in Europe as well.
Would you care to provide some evidence or are you happy to have your assertion labelled as bullshit?
I already posted some reasons earlier. People like you that just insist it won't work even though it works just fine in many other countries. You know, skull-fucked conservatives that can't even distinguish fact from fiction anymore.Right after you explain why it can't work in a single state.
http://www.scimagojr.com/countryrank.php?order=itp&ord=desc
The problem with providing evidence is that it usually hardens resistance to competing ideas. But it seems plausible that the US is bearing more than its share in the realm of innovation.
Anyone stupid enough to label it as bullshit is ignorant.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3728884/
Its more than just defensive medicine though. There is also the fact that US hospitals often have very new hardware that may be equally as effective but more expensive as its new.
Would you care to point out anything from that article that backs up your assertion? Because while saying that medical professionals in America are commonly engaging in ligitation avoidance tactics by arranging referrals that are unlikely to be necessary and this would logically increase the cost of healthcare in America is a reasonably logical assertion, this article does not provide any basis for the assertion you made. European healthcare institutions are not even mentioned in this article, let alone any cost analysis comparisons, so how on earth did you think it provided sufficient base for your assertion? The article even says that similar behaviour was noted in a Japanese study.
For example, the Labour government in the UK changed the system by which the NHS trusts were being judged to provide good performance to a system which favoured making excessive referrals. Guess what happened? More referrals, more unnecessary scans, etc. For me to then claim that the change in policy is the cause of the spikes in the UK's graph line would be similarly without base.
You're an Idiot.
Insurance status of patients has also added to the keenness to use resources. It was clearly seen in various researches that hospital patients with private insurance stay in hospitals longer and receive many procedures compared to patients with Medicaid coverage or patients who lack health insurance
Would you care to point out anything from that article that backs up your assertion? Because while saying that medical professionals in America are commonly engaging in ligitation avoidance tactics by arranging referrals that are unlikely to be necessary and this would logically increase the cost of healthcare in America is a reasonably logical assertion, this article does not provide any basis for the assertion you made. European healthcare institutions are not even mentioned in this article, let alone any cost analysis comparisons, so how on earth did you think it provided sufficient base for your assertion? The article even says that similar behaviour was noted in a Japanese study.
For example, the Labour government in the UK changed the system by which the NHS trusts were being judged to provide good performance to a system which favoured making excessive referrals. Guess what happened? More referrals, more unnecessary scans, etc. For me to then claim that the change in policy is the cause of the spikes in the UK's graph line would be similarly without base.
The old and tired tort reform idea. Prescription drug prices eclipse that without even trying.Defensive medicine is not driving our health care costs as malpractice related costs including it are responsible for about 2.5% of our total health care costs. We are also not the only place that practices defensive medicine of sorts/
https://www.medpagetoday.com/PracticeManagement/Medicolegal/22051
The idea that it's a significant driver of costs is a popular fiction that people who don't know what they are talking about often latch on to.
You're an Idiot.
You're an Idiot.
It is scary, yes. One problem is that single-payer, or things that look like they are going that way, contradict some of the classical liberal precepts that the US was founded on. Of course, the same could be said of other extant programs, but a massive takeover of healthcare is just a bridge too far for many citizens, and there are rational reasons to think that way. Individualist ideology still runs deep and strong in the heartland, refusal to deal with this fact continues to doom many modern liberal proposals. But the environment of extreme partisanship in which we now live make innovative solutions tailored to the unique nature of American society improbable, so we struggle along with a patched up mess. It's really too bad we can't come together and do some out-of-box thinking to alleviate the looming disaster. I've thought that the government might do better to start helping through (much) more publicly owned infrastructure, which would not arouse as much controversy, since it's already an accepted role.But that chart is terrifying isn't it? As a share of GDP it has tripled in the United States. The trajectory is extremely stable and consistently in the same direction. The system has got to blow up. If it triples in the next 40 years, health care will be then be at 54% of GDP which would ruin the country.
Republicans have absolute shit to offer in way of solving this. Absolutely nothing to offer other than hate and obstruction for the ACA. Absolutely nothing to offer in the face of the clear and present danger of runaway of healthcare costs.
Does this mean you've finally ran out of BS to spout? We can only hope.
This is stupid, but fine.
Tell me, does anyone notice a theme?
https://www.oecd.org/unitedstates/49084355.pdf
It amazes me how I take a few hours away for a forum, and idiots start to assume that me not responding means I have no argument. The US in many areas of healthcare does far more. There is far more out there to find as well, but I have a life outside of a tech forum. Gasp, how could it be?
It was just some wishful thinking......
Keep on spamming away.
I always forget how internet rich you are.If you liberals want to personally guarantee from your own pockets that everyone "personally benefits" from universal healthcare with a direct transfer payment to me if I don't "personally benefit" then I'd support it. But you won't because you know damn well that folks like me are the ones you plan to fleece to pay for it all and we won't come out ahead in any way, shape, or form.
That’s from six years ago.This is stupid, but fine.
Tell me, does anyone notice a theme?
https://www.oecd.org/unitedstates/49084355.pdf
It amazes me how I take a few hours away for a forum, and idiots start to assume that me not responding means I have no argument. The US in many areas of healthcare does far more. There is far more out there to find as well, but I have a life outside of a tech forum. Gasp, how could it be?
On a per capita basis that looks to me like the US isn't pulling it's weight. Australia has 1/13 the population and is producing 1/9 the citable documents. The UK has 1/5 the population and 1/4 the citable articles.
http://www.scimagojr.com/countryrank.php?order=itp&ord=desc
The problem with providing evidence is that it usually hardens resistance to competing ideas. But it seems plausible that the US is bearing more than its share in the realm of innovation.
Collective bargaining arrangements present in many universal healthcare systems greatly help reduce the cost of medicines and procedures. My government doesn't care nearly as much as I personally do whether I get treatment, therefore they are prepared to pay far less for it than I would as an individual.The old and tired tort reform idea. Prescription drug prices eclipse that without even trying.
This is stupid, but fine.
It amazes me how I take a few hours away for a forum, and idiots start to assume that me not responding means I have no argument. The US in many areas of healthcare does far more. There is far more out there to find as well, but I have a life outside of a tech forum. Gasp, how could it be?