The United States Does Not Negotiate With Terrorists

[Fern]

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Iran wants to export all the oil and natural gas they can, so nuclear energy is an excellent alternative to produce electricity locally and export the rest. Since the Iranian government is also heavily reliant on oil revenues, this would be a great investment path to pursue.

Yet they somehow choose a nuclear design that allows for nuke weapons. I'm pretty sure other countries offered to help Iran with nuke power, but since it was a design that couldn't be weaponized they declined.

Fern

 

[gevorg]

Since when did we start negotiating with terrorist states?

We're not with negotiating with terrorists, we want to officially arm them and fight together with them to overtake a government regime that doesn't play by our rules (see Syria). Who would have thought that US foreign policy would want to side with Al Qaeda and European terrorist mercenaries so soon after 9/11.

 

[Fern]

Seems to me Iran has wanted to talk for quite some time, but as is generally customary in ME type negotiations we weren't going to give that concession without getting some of our own. Well, we got nothing here.

Also, the Iranian president does not run Iran. Liberals were only too happy to point this out repeatedly when 'Iamadinerjacket' was running around spouting crazy sh!t. I.e., somebody at a lower level than Obama should be speaking to him. Bad protocol.

The IAEA estimates that Iran is on the verge of having a sufficient quantity of material for a bomb. I think Obama's may be getting played here: By engaging in talks it might work to prevent Israel from striking the nuke weapons facility. I.e., Iran is maneuvering Obama to be their personal defense shield.

Fern

 

[Fern]

We're not with negotiating with terrorists, we want to officially arm them and fight together with them to overtake a government regime that doesn't play by our rules (see Syria). Who would have thought that US foreign policy would want to side with Al Qaeda and European terrorist mercenaries so soon after 9/11.

Why would we want to arm Iran?

Heck, it's Iran who supports Syria as well as Hamas and Hezbollah.

We'd be arming and siding with Israel's biggest enemy.

In addition, we'd be aligning ourselves with the Shia side in the Muslim struggle (Shia v Sunni). This sort of policy shift would blow the crap out of ME relationships etc. Our strongest allies, as much as I dislike them, are Sunnis such as Saudi Arabia etc. and they have the 'good oil'. Iran's is polluted with sulfur and difficult to refine. There is a reason nobody wants their oil.

Fern

 

[gevorg]

^^^ I meant for Syria, the current top news crisis.

And no matter how much Iran is hated, you can't seriously label it "terrorist", unless you change the definition and include a whole bunch of countries there (all?).

 

[fstime]

Look up the history of Israel's nuclear program if you want to hear about shady and sneaky methods.

Also look at Pakistan, their government seems just as bad as Iran's and they despise their direct neighbor (India) and even have territorial disputes with them in Kashmir.

The truth is, nobody should possess nuclear weapons in that region.

How can the United States not expect other nations not to be hostile towards it. With all the dictators we installed in South America and around the world (including Iran), the playing of world police to benefit our country's (and corporate) interests, and obsession with war, you are going to always have someone who forever distrusts you.

 

[SheHateMe]

So why don't you get out of your Armchair and fix the problem since you seem to know what to do?


Internet folk...

 

[yllus]

First: Foreign leaders of nations aren't terrorists, even if they do actively and rather blatantly sponsor them. There is almost never any harm in talking to them.

Second: Iran will possess a nuclear weapon within the next five or maximum ten years unless a proper full-scale invasion or revolution occurs. No amount of tough talkin' by Mr. Reagan or any other supposed luminary of foreign policy (I suppose having sold weapons to Iran, maybe he'd have the inside track with them) would have mattered. Or would you rather that Mr. Reagan actually blow Iran to hell contrary to the advice of all senior military advisors and common sense? Haven't you just been through one instance of your president talking trash and then not being able to back it up?

 

[GarfieldtheCat]

I'm bringing forth a concern, which I feel is important. Obama scares me and I don't feel like we're in good hands on this issue.

I guess that concern warrants a typical left wing personal attack.

No, that concern just shows how incredibly ignorant you are about the facts....left or right have nothing to do with the facts you don't know.

As pointed out, Reagan deal with Iran. So way to expose your ignorance.

 

[IronWing]

Since when did we start negotiating with terrorist states? We have the wrong president for this. We should all be very afraid of this tool.

Since day one, even before day one.

Until the American Declaration of Independence in 1776, British treaties with the North African states protected American ships from the Barbary corsairs. Morocco, which in 1777 was the first independent nation to publicly recognize the United States, became in 1784 the first Barbary power to seize an American vessel after independence. The Barbary threat led directly to the creation of the United States Navy in March 1794. While the United States managed to secure peace treaties, these obliged it to pay tribute for protection from attack. Payments in ransom and tribute to the Barbary states amounted to 20% of United States government annual expenditures in 1800.[21] The First Barbary War in 1801 and the Second Barbary War in 1815 led to more favorable peace terms ending the payment of tribute. However, Algiers broke the 1805 peace treaty after only two years, and subsequently refused to implement the 1815 treaty until compelled to do so by Britain in 1816.

- Wikipedia

Also, Reagan sold weapons to Iran in exchange for hostages. He also organized, trained, and paid terrorist mercenaries to commit war crimes in Nicaragua. Reagan was a douchebag's douchebag.