The United states in Bible prophecy....

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YoshiSato

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Originally posted by: FrancesBeansRevenge
The US will fall as a superpower, but it will fall at the hands of those in Washington before it falls at the hands of an outside force.

That's my point. We will lose a war, world opinion will change and countries won't put up with our crap any more.

We attack Iran, China or Korea can start something(say attack Tawian or South Korea), The US would be in no position to respond to a REAL military.
 

Cattlegod

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Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: Cattlegod
japan was hit with a huge nuclear disaster.

two small nukes like that aren't a "huge" nuclear disaster

nothing compared to a WWIII Soviet/USA exchange that would cause nuclear winter, etc, etc


exactly HOW was that not a nuclear disaster????

was 911 a disaster? yes it was, you will be called unamerican to say it wasn't, and that was only 3k people who died.

how many people died in the japanese nuclear disaster?
 

YoshiSato

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Originally posted by: Cattlegod
Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: Cattlegod
japan was hit with a huge nuclear disaster.

two small nukes like that aren't a "huge" nuclear disaster

nothing compared to a WWIII Soviet/USA exchange that would cause nuclear winter, etc, etc


exactly HOW was that not a nuclear disaster????

was 911 a disaster? yes it was, you will be called unamerican to say it wasn't, and that was only 3k people who died.

how many people died in the japanese nuclear disaster?[/q]


About 100k

More people died during the firebombing missions.
 

SagaLore

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Somewhere in it I think its says that Mexico will become the 51st state, but in a stroke of irony hispanic people will gain huge power in the government and Spanish will become the primary language.
 

kinev

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It is beleived that there are so many Christians living in the U.S. that the country won't be a factor in the end-times/Armaggedon. This is coming from a Pre-Trib. standpoint (i.e. Christians are taken up in the "Rapture" prior to the Tribulation). That's why there's no mention of the U.S., because the country will not be an influential factor.
 

JEDIYoda

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Thats what I figured except for a few of you most of you don`t have a clue or totally don`t and will never read the Bible...

I guess this subject was wat over most peoples heads!!

I would rather live my life as if there were a GOD and a Heaven.
Rather than live my life as if there were not a God or a Heaven and come to find out there was a God and I was totally screwed.

Have a good evening!!
 

ndruw

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Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
I have heard it said the United states is nowhere to be seen or heard of in Bible prophecy.

I have also heard it said the the United states is aluded to in many passages in Revelations. Primarily as being destroyed in the early stages of Armeggedon.

I have also heard it said by supposed Blble Scholars that the United states will be hit by iether a Nuclear disaster or multiple nautural disasters that will over whelm our economy and thus take us off the world stage so to speak as a super power.

Any ideas or suppositions......

I should care more about what the bible says, it's written by God for men...

Fixed. Read it. Good book.
 

Buck Naked

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Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Thats what I figured except for a few of you most of you don`t have a clue or totally don`t and will never read the Bible...

I guess this subject was wat over most peoples heads!!

I would rather live my life as if there were a GOD and a Heaven.
Rather than live my life as if there were not a God or a Heaven and come to find out there was a God and I was totally screwed.

Have a good evening!!

What does having a clue and reading the bible have to do with each other?
Your right this is wat over my head.
Live your life the way you want, and let others do the same.
 

Kenazo

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Come up with some actual prophecy that actually says what you've "heard it said".
 

Playmaker

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Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
I have heard it said the United states is nowhere to be seen or heard of in Bible prophecy.

I have also heard it said the the United states is aluded to in many passages in Revelations. Primarily as being destroyed in the early stages of Armeggedon.

I have also heard it said by supposed Blble Scholars that the United states will be hit by iether a Nuclear disaster or multiple nautural disasters that will over whelm our economy and thus take us off the world stage so to speak as a super power.

Any ideas or suppositions......

You do realize it's just a story, right? Kind of like Curious George Goes to the Beach. Try that instead.
 

sandorski

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A lot of it depends on how you view Prophecy. Ist it Literally going to happen the way described? Is it only Descriptive from the viewpoint of the original Receiver/Writer? Is it Coded, using other Scripture as a Decoder for what is meant?

All 3 of those views(and probably more) have been very popular through the ages and each will lead people to different conclusions. I lean towards the Descriptive, wherein the Receiver saw something(somehow) profound and beyond their understanding then tried to describe it. I also think that those before the events described can't really predict with 100% accuracy who all the players(the various Nations persons, etc described) are or more accurately, they can't predict the players beyond their Present Age.

IMO, the US, in light of what I just said, is a big player in Prophecy. No other Nation of this day can be compared to Babylon as the US is. In Prophecy "Babylon" is described as a dominant Economic and Cultural power that causes all others to adopt Its' ways. So as long as the US maintains its' current status it's the most likely candidate for that part of Prophecy. However, that assumes that Prophecy will be fulfilled or that it will be fulfilled in the relatively Present time.
 

preslove

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The moment someone brings up prophecies they get categorized as moronic-moonbat.
 

Howard

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Originally posted by: ndruw
Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
I have heard it said the United states is nowhere to be seen or heard of in Bible prophecy.

I have also heard it said the the United states is aluded to in many passages in Revelations. Primarily as being destroyed in the early stages of Armeggedon.

I have also heard it said by supposed Blble Scholars that the United states will be hit by iether a Nuclear disaster or multiple nautural disasters that will over whelm our economy and thus take us off the world stage so to speak as a super power.

Any ideas or suppositions......

I should care more about what the bible says, it's written by God for men...

Fixed. Read it. Good book.
lol
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
I have heard it said the United states is nowhere to be seen or heard of in Bible prophecy.

I have also heard it said the the United states is aluded to in many passages in Revelations. Primarily as being destroyed in the early stages of Armeggedon.

I have also heard it said by supposed Blble Scholars that the United states will be hit by iether a Nuclear disaster or multiple nautural disasters that will over whelm our economy and thus take us off the world stage so to speak as a super power.

Any ideas or suppositions......

Read it yourself and find out.
 

JackBurton

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The Bible - King James Version
Rev 12:4 - And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.


The Bible talks about dragons pulling a third part of the universe down to earth. I'm not a betting man, but I'm pretty sure that's not how the earth will end. That being said, The Bible has as much insight into the future as a Peter Pan book.
 

Playmaker

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Originally posted by: JackBurton
The Bible - King James Version
Rev 12:4 - And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.


The Bible talks about dragons pulling a third part of the universe down to earth. I'm not a betting man, but I'm pretty sure that's not how the earth will end. That being said, The Bible has as much insight into the future as a Peter Pan book.

My Curious George comparison was superior.
 

McGyver

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Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
I have heard it said the United states is nowhere to be seen or heard of in Bible prophecy.

I have also heard it said the the United states is aluded to in many passages in Revelations. Primarily as being destroyed in the early stages of Armeggedon.

I have also heard it said by supposed Blble Scholars that the United states will be hit by iether a Nuclear disaster or multiple nautural disasters that will over whelm our economy and thus take us off the world stage so to speak as a super power.

Any ideas or suppositions......

I could care less about what the bible says, it's written by men for men...

exactly, point taken.
 
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Originally posted by: YoshiSato
Originally posted by: FrancesBeansRevenge
The US will fall as a superpower, but it will fall at the hands of those in Washington before it falls at the hands of an outside force.

That's my point. We will lose a war, world opinion will change and countries won't put up with our crap any more.

We attack Iran, China or Korea can start something(say attack Tawian or South Korea), The US would be in no position to respond to a REAL military.

I don't think anyone has any idea what the United States would be capable of during draft time.
 

JEDIYoda

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Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
I have heard it said the United states is nowhere to be seen or heard of in Bible prophecy.

I have also heard it said the the United states is aluded to in many passages in Revelations. Primarily as being destroyed in the early stages of Armeggedon.

I have also heard it said by supposed Blble Scholars that the United states will be hit by iether a Nuclear disaster or multiple nautural disasters that will over whelm our economy and thus take us off the world stage so to speak as a super power.

Any ideas or suppositions......

Read it yourself and find out.

I have read it and I have my own ideas. I was asking for input from others!!

Obviously your too young to read. So you stoopd to assinine remarks instead!!

 

JEDIYoda

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Originally posted by: MDE
Shouldn't this be in P&R, er I mean P&N?


why?

This niether political nor is it news.

This a discussion concerning a question...

 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
I have read it and I have my own ideas. I was asking for input from others!!

Obviously your too young to read. So you stoopd to assinine remarks instead!!

:hsugh:

Whatever you say, chicken little.
 
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