The United states in Bible prophecy....

[DainBramaged]

Personally, I think it is quite typical of us Americans to assume that we are important enough to be in the Bible.

 

[Yossarian]

Originally posted by: ndruw

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
I have heard it said the United states is nowhere to be seen or heard of in Bible prophecy.

I have also heard it said the the United states is aluded to in many passages in Revelations. Primarily as being destroyed in the early stages of Armeggedon.

I have also heard it said by supposed Blble Scholars that the United states will be hit by iether a Nuclear disaster or multiple nautural disasters that will over whelm our economy and thus take us off the world stage so to speak as a super power.

Any ideas or suppositions......

I should care more about what the bible says, it's written by God for men...

Fixed. Read it. Good book.

it's true, I got his autograph at a book signing at Barnes & Noble last week

 

[Hepafleb]

Originally posted by: JackBurton
The Bible - King James Version

Rev 12:4 - And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

The Bible talks about dragons pulling a third part of the universe down to earth. I'm not a betting man, but I'm pretty sure that's not how the earth will end. That being said, The Bible has as much insight into the future as a Peter Pan book.

You seem a little bitter.

 

[AntaresVI]

Originally posted by: Hepafleb

Originally posted by: JackBurton
The Bible - King James Version

Rev 12:4 - And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

The Bible talks about dragons pulling a third part of the universe down to earth. I'm not a betting man, but I'm pretty sure that's not how the earth will end. That being said, The Bible has as much insight into the future as a Peter Pan book.

You seem a little bitter.

Well, if you think about it, the Book of Revelation was just one of a number of writings in the category of "apocalyptic literature." This one happened to get into the Christian canon because the dominant early Christian group (the proto-Orthodox) found it to be close to their own beliefs in many ways. Still, though, the book itself was more of a "hang in there" message to the 7 Asia Minor churches mentioned. It's clear that a lot of the symbolism points to the Romans, who at the time were, by and large, persecuting Christians for their faith. The horns on the Beast of Babylon, for example, are indicative of emperors (Nero being the reigning one in Revelations), and the Whore of Babylon is Rome itself, "drunk on the blood of the martyrs (persecuted christians). Also, there are a lot of inconsistencies in the text itself - for example, the stars and sun are destroyed with the breaking of the sixth seal, but the world goes on (there are seven seals). This, obviously, is impossible.

In sum, Revelation is but one of innumerable apocalyptic texts, and really cannot be seen as any sort of accurate or likely prediction of the nature of the end times.

Just my $0.02.

 

[aswedc]

Well, if you think about it, the Book of Revelation was just one of a number of writings in the category of "apocalyptic literature." This one happened to get into the Christian canon because the dominant early Christian group (the proto-Orthodox) found it to be close to their own beliefs in many ways. Still, though, the book itself was more of a "hang in there" message to the 7 Asia Minor churches mentioned. It's clear that a lot of the symbolism points to the Romans, who at the time were, by and large, persecuting Christians for their faith. The horns on the Beast of Babylon, for example, are indicative of emperors (Nero being the reigning one in Revelations), and the Whore of Babylon is Rome itself, "drunk on the blood of the martyrs (persecuted christians). Also, there are a lot of inconsistencies in the text itself - for example, the stars and sun are destroyed with the breaking of the sixth seal, but the world goes on (there are seven seals). This, obviously, is impossible.

In sum, Revelation is but one of innumerable apocalyptic texts, and really cannot be seen as any sort of accurate or likely prediction of the nature of the end times.

Just my $0.02.

When did you become such a Bible expert?

 

[AntaresVI]

Originally posted by: aswedc

Well, if you think about it, the Book of Revelation was just one of a number of writings in the category of "apocalyptic literature." This one happened to get into the Christian canon because the dominant early Christian group (the proto-Orthodox) found it to be close to their own beliefs in many ways. Still, though, the book itself was more of a "hang in there" message to the 7 Asia Minor churches mentioned. It's clear that a lot of the symbolism points to the Romans, who at the time were, by and large, persecuting Christians for their faith. The horns on the Beast of Babylon, for example, are indicative of emperors (Nero being the reigning one in Revelations), and the Whore of Babylon is Rome itself, "drunk on the blood of the martyrs (persecuted christians). Also, there are a lot of inconsistencies in the text itself - for example, the stars and sun are destroyed with the breaking of the sixth seal, but the world goes on (there are seven seals). This, obviously, is impossible.

In sum, Revelation is but one of innumerable apocalyptic texts, and really cannot be seen as any sort of accurate or likely prediction of the nature of the end times.

Just my $0.02.

When did you become such a Bible expert?

haha i'm actually minoring in REL these days

edit: comparative study, not divinity.

 

[foghorn67]

I am pretty much a poster boy American patriot. But it's awfully arrogant to think that the US will have a huge role in the 'end times'.
We could have a role, or we may not. The important part is, it's going to end near where it all started. I would worry more about personal salvation (an every day struggle) then America's role.
But it is fun to think about.
On the other hand, like an earlier poster said...there was no words for the 'United States of America', maybe we will be around?
The word dinosaur wasn't in the Bible, hence no dinosaurs mentioned. but there were descriptions of similiar animals or beasts. Maybe the Bible hints at the US in the same manner?
Their is the argument of the 'Eagle'. Most people think that is us (US), but most think that is the tribe of Danh.
Magog is seen as Russia...can't think of anything else at the moment.

 

[So]

What if the 'end of times' just means the end of the civilizations that were in the bible in the ME...i.e. U.S. + China + USSR finally get fed up and just toast the whole region, rendering it uninhabitable for the forseeable future.

Just a random thought. (Not that I buy any of it, but it amused me momentarily)

 

[Playmaker]

Originally posted by: Hepafleb

Originally posted by: JackBurton
The Bible - King James Version

Rev 12:4 - And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

The Bible talks about dragons pulling a third part of the universe down to earth. I'm not a betting man, but I'm pretty sure that's not how the earth will end. That being said, The Bible has as much insight into the future as a Peter Pan book.

You seem a little bitter.

Hmm, I'm not sure how his post could be construed as bitter.

I think the word you were looking for was realistic.

 

[shoRunner]

oh yeah its in 5th Timothy 5:19 "and the US WTFPWNS all, the end"

 

[KarmaPolice]

WE ALL GONNA DIE!

 

[Raduque]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Thats what I figured except for a few of you most of you don`t have a clue or totally don`t and will never read the Bible...

I guess this subject was wat over most peoples heads!!

I would rather live my life as if there were a GOD and a Heaven.
Rather than live my life as if there were not a God or a Heaven and come to find out there was a God and I was totally screwed.

Have a good evening!!

And I thank your God you fixed your sig.

 

[Duddy]

The dollar is supposed to collapse after the opening of the Iranian Oil Boarse next week.

 

[0roo0roo]

according to the most recent prophet...the us is the holy land
mormonism ftw? lol

 

[walkur]

1.Big asteriod
2.BOOM
3.Major floods, climate change
4.Goverments slowly losing control
5.Goverments fall
6.People Die
7.people band together
8.new nations form
(repeat of steps 4 - 8 may happen quite a lot)

 

[Bassyhead]

Originally posted by: JackBurton
The Bible - King James Version

Rev 12:4 - And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

The Bible talks about dragons pulling a third part of the universe down to earth. I'm not a betting man, but I'm pretty sure that's not how the earth will end. That being said, The Bible has as much insight into the future as a Peter Pan book.

Nice reading comprehension. The woman is Mary, the Child Jesus, the dragon King Herod who wanted to immediately destroy the infant motivated by Satan. According to Hebrew tradition, a third of all angels in heaven fell along with Satan.

 

[cKGunslinger]

"Hokay, here's tha Earf.. daayum it's a sweet Earf.."

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
I have heard it said the United states is nowhere to be seen or heard of in Bible prophecy.

I have also heard it said the the United states is aluded to in many passages in Revelations. Primarily as being destroyed in the early stages of Armeggedon.

I have also heard it said by supposed Blble Scholars that the United states will be hit by iether a Nuclear disaster or multiple nautural disasters that will over whelm our economy and thus take us off the world stage so to speak as a super power.

Any ideas or suppositions......

None of the above. It's just being sold out to the highest bidders.

 

[GeneValgene]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
according to the most recent prophet...the us is the holy land
mormonism ftw? lol

QFT

mormonism FTW hehehe