The Unofficial Abit AN8 Ultra thread

[harobikes333]

Ok I've been looking at the abit ultra with the passive cooling. It looks pretty sweet and all but seeing Abit's financial state makes me wonder if they will be around to support the mobo. etc.

 

[BoomAM]

I wouldnt worry about Abits financial state. With the latest BIOS, i find that the AN8 Ultra has very few problems and supports every processor that is currently out or will be coming out on socket 939. So even if Abit does go belly up, which i doubt they will, you'll be fine.

 

[harobikes333]

thanks for the reply I've been considering the abit mobo that has passive cooling

 

[harobikes333]

Anyone have a link to the abit board with passive cooling since its outa stock ...?

 

[renethx]

There has been a rumor that AN8 (any version) is discontinued since last November. It seems that it is true. Find it at eBay.

 

[harobikes333]

because of abits financial state...?

 

[renethx]

I don't know. It may be normal for any motherboard. ABIT AT7-MAX2 first appeared at retail stores in Sep 2002 and disappeared from any store in Aug 2003.

 

[harobikes333]

U mean abit=gone...?

 

[renethx]

No, I don't say abit=gone. Another rumor (as of Jan 15) says that AT8 will be released soon.

 

[harobikes333]

Originally posted by: renethx
No, I don't say abit=gone. Another rumor says that AT8 will be released soon.

So should I wait for that to come out...?

 

[renethx]

Originally posted by: harobikes333
So should I wait for that to come out...?

If you have reasons to stick to ABIT, you may wait. Otherwise, there are many good boards available today.

 

[GTaudiophile]

Originally posted by: renethx
No, I don't say /Abit=gone. Another rumor says that AT8 will be released soon.

What is the AT8?

 

[renethx]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
What is the AT8?

AT8

 

[harobikes333]

I have no reason over any other mobo brand.... I just liked the passive cooling. Seeing that the new AM2 socket is coming out though in one month I think I'll wait before I go ahead and buy my 939 socket parts. Then the price may be lower?

 

[renethx]

Originally posted by: harobikes333
I have no reason over any other mobo brand.... I just liked the passive cooling. Seeing that the new AM2 socket is coming out though in one month I think I'll wait before I go ahead and buy my 939 socket parts. Then the price may be lower?

If you like passive cooling, then buy a NF4 board and replace the NB fan by Zalman ZM-NB47J. If you don't stick to NF4, then a GeForce 6150 board (for example MSI K8NGM2-FID) is a good passive cooling board that may be even better than NF4.

 

[GTaudiophile]

I thought the 6150 boards were lesser boards compared to NF4Ultra?

 

[renethx]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
I thought the 6150 boards were lesser boards compared to NF4Ultra?

Except for 8 USB vs 10 USB, GeForce 6150 is equivalent to NF4 Ultra in performance. It is even better in stability and reliability, plus onboard GPU.

 

[tjpark1111]

do you guys have any room to fit a scythe ninja on this board? is the heatpipe a bit too high and in the way of the ninja? thx.

 

[BoomAM]

lol. The 6150 boards ARE NF4U boards, just with an intergrated video chip.

 

[renethx]

Originally posted by: BoomAM
lol. The 6150 boards ARE NF4U boards, just with an intergrated video chip.

Wrong. Besides separated NB & SB and integrated GPU, there are other differences:

• Audio (HDA+AC'97 vs AC'97)
• USB (8 vs 10)
• PCI-E lanes (16x1+1x1 vs 16x1+1x3)

If you don't need extra USB and PCI-E lanes, GeForce 6150 is better.

Correction

GeForce 6150 supports two PCI Express x1 lanes. It's even better. Note that the left hand side of "vs" is for GeForce 6150 and the right hand side of "vs" is for nForce4 Ultra. Don't confuse!

 

[BoomAM]

Originally posted by: renethx

Originally posted by: BoomAM
lol. The 6150 boards ARE NF4U boards, just with an intergrated video chip.

Wrong. Besides separated NB & SB and integrated GPU, there are other differences:

• Audio (HDA+AC'97 vs AC'97)
• USB (8 vs 10)
• PCI-E lanes (16x1+1x1 vs 16x1+1x3)

If you don't need extra USB and PCI-E lanes, GeForce 6150 is better.

lol.
The audio aspect isnt decided by the chipset, its decided by the extra ICs that manufactueres add.
The NF4 chipset, all of them, support 10 USB2 channels. Its upto the manufacturer to decide how many to implement.
PCI-E lanes, im sorry your wrong there, you cant have a 3 lane PCI-E slot. Of course, your not entirely clear there, so if you want to reword that bit, then we can decide if your incorrect or not.

As for 'better'. Your asuming that everyone has the same needs as you.

Oh, and dont be so confrontational. It achieves nothing. Agrovates people, and if was a few members on here that i know of, then you would have been on the wrong end of an arguement. Lucky, im relativly relaxed about things.

 

[renethx]

Originally posted by: BoomAM
The audio aspect isnt decided by the chipset, its decided by the extra ICs that manufactueres add.
The NF4 chipset, all of them, support 10 USB2 channels. Its upto the manufacturer to decide how many to implement.
PCI-E lanes, im sorry your wrong there, you cant have a 3 lane PCI-E slot. Of course, your not entirely clear there, so if you want to reword that bit, then we can decide if your incorrect or not.

Wrong again. GeForce 6150 supports High-Definition Audio. The left side of "vs" is for GeForce 6150 and the right side for NF4U. This is clear from the "Audio" part. I wrote 8 USB for 6150 and 10 USB for NF4U, and 1 PCI-E x 1 lane for 6150 and 3 PCI-E x 1 lanes for NF4U. Everything is crystal clear. It seems that you lack the ability to read English correctly.

Originally posted by: BoomAM
As for 'better'. Your asuming that everyone has the same needs as you.

GeForce 6150 is better in that it comes with GPU and HD audio if you dont' need extra USB and PCI-E x1. The assumption is the "if" part, "If you don't need extra USB and PCI-E lanes" ("you" is a generic person). Needless to say, this does not imply at all that I am assuming that everyone has the same needs as me. Again you seem to lack the ability to understand a conditional statement. The statement

"If you don't need extra USB and PCI-E lanes, GeForce 6150 is better."

is logically 100% correct (unless IGP or HD Audio is considered as inferior to no IGP or AC'97).

Originally posted by: BoomAM
dont be so confrontational. It achieves nothing. Agrovates people,

I am sorry if my writing looked confrontational and aggravated you. I just wanted to correct imprecise statement.

 

[renethx]

Originally posted by: renethx
Besides separated NB & SB and integrated GPU, there are other differences:

• Audio (HDA+AC'97 vs AC'97)
• USB (8 vs 10)
• PCI-E lanes (16x1+1x1 vs 16x1+1x3)

Correction

GeForce 6150 supports two PCI Express x1 lanes. It's even better.

 

[BoomAM]

Wrong again. GeForce 6150 supports High-Definition Audio. The left side of "vs" is for GeForce 6150 and the right side for NF4U. This is clear from the "Audio" part. I wrote 8 USB for 6150 and 10 USB for NF4U, and 1 PCI-E x 1 lane for 6150 and 3 PCI-E x 1 lanes for NF4U. Everything is crystal clear. It seems that you lack the ability to read English correctly.

Im afriad your gonna have to agree to disagree with me here.
The actual nForce4 chipset is still part of the 6150 boards, as a south bridge, the only difference now is that the 'northbridge' has an integrated graphics chip. Its just been renamed.
The audio aspect are still seperate ICs, provided by the likes of Realtech or C-Media. The new nForce 6150 doesnt provide any audio whatsoever, just provides, like all other chipsets, a seperate data bus for the sound IC. Hence why some 'last' gen nForce boards were shipped with SB Live! Chips instead of the standard Realtech ones.
And the only reason PCI-E slots are more flexable on the 6150 boards is the fact that the 'NB' with the gfx chip also integrates a few more lanes & functions in addition to whats available on the 'SB'

GeForce 6150 is better in that it comes with GPU and HD audio if you dont' need extra USB and PCI-E x1. The assumption is the "if" part, "If you don't need extra USB and PCI-E lanes" ("you" is a generic person). Needless to say, this does not imply at all that I am assuming that everyone has the same needs as me. Again you seem to lack the ability to understand a conditional statement.

1.Dont start getting offensive and arsey just because i dont agree with your viewpoints.
2. Having an integrated GPU doesnt make the board better at all. It just means it has a integrated GPU, which to alot of enthusiasts, would be a waste of time & money.
3. For your HD Audio coment, see my previous statements.

 

[renethx]

Originally posted by: BoomAM
Im afriad your gonna have to agree to disagree with me here.

Sorry to say that, but you are clearly wrong to say that:

"PCI-E lanes, im sorry your wrong there, you cant have a 3 lane PCI-E slot. Of course, your not entirely clear there, so if you want to reword that bit, then we can decide if your incorrect or not. "

as I pointed out alreadey. I am afraid that you don't want to admit it. As for audio part, it's up to each person how interpret it. You don't have to explain such a trivial matter long.

Originally posted by: BoomAM
1. Dont start getting offensive and arsey just because i dont agree with your viewpoints.
2. Having an integrated GPU doesnt make the board better at all. It just means it has a integrated GPU, which to alot of enthusiasts, would be a waste of time & money.

I simply pointed out your false logical thinking. I have nothing offensive in mind. Again the statement:

"The statement

"If you don't need extra USB and PCI-E lanes, GeForce 6150 is better."

is logically 100% correct (unless IGP or HD Audio is considered as inferior to no IGP or AC'97)."

is logically 100% correct. Whether you agree or not with the assumption part "per se" is another matter, that is more or less a subjective matter. "alot of enthusiasts" is again very subject. A part of enthusiasts may think that way. A part of enthusiasts are welcoming IGP. Well, discussing it is just a waste of time... it also depends on how to define the word "enthusiast"...