The Unofficial ASUS P5N-E SLI 650i Board Thread

[CikaNovo]

Zip,I see you're running E4300 at 1512 FSB at 1.525V.What CPU cooler you use and what temps do you get at 1.525V?Is it Orthos stable at that speed?Max stable FSB for me is 1425 at 1.525V and temps go up to 79 C in CoreTemp,and 64 C in Probe II.

 

[CikaNovo]

Anybody has any experience with SATA DVD-RW optical drives on this mobo?

 

[NineInchNick]

Originally posted by: CikaNovo
Anybody has any experience with SATA DVD-RW optical drives on this mobo?

Yes. They work. (unlike many IDE drives - like NEC/Optidrive)

 

[imported_Zip]

im not actually using that frequency anymore, it was pretty stable but not orthos. I'm running 1490 orthos stable now. im getting 61C at burn and about 40C at idle, this is using the stock cooler and enabling Qfan in the bios (nice and quiet).

i have the +100mv option on aswell and im using a samsung 18x dvd-rw with lightscribe on an sata connection and its flawless

 

[Tuvoc]

Originally posted by: CikaNovo

EDIT:I've found the right one,it's RightMark CPU Clock/Power Utility version 2.2,and unfortunately it told me that my CPU is throttling at 3.2 ghz!

Yes, 2.2 is the right one, sorry about the wrong link

It's good that you've found out that it is throttling, no point in getting an extreme overclock if it then slows down because of the heat ! Kind of defeats the purpose

 

[CikaNovo]

Originally posted by: Tuvoc

Originally posted by: CikaNovo

EDIT:I've found the right one,it's RightMark CPU Clock/Power Utility version 2.2,and unfortunately it told me that my CPU is throttling at 3.2 ghz!

Yes, 2.2 is the right one, sorry about the wrong link

It's good that you've found out that it is throttling, no point in getting an extreme overclock if it then slows down because of the heat ! Kind of defeats the purpose

Exactly.Breaking speed records is OK,but I need stable and reliable computer for everyday use .

 

[dlxmax]

Originally posted by: CikaNovo
What voltages are you people using to get over 3.2 ghz on your cpu's?I need to pump 1.525 to my e4300 to be stable at that speed,and that's just to much.Cooling the northbridge gets me to 1450 FSB(3.26 ghz),but that requires 1.5v,and above 1520 FSB I can't even boot to Windows no matter what multiplier I use.Could better CPU cooler (Ninja perhaps) be of any help with this issue,and how much does thermalright's hr-05 for the northbridge helps with overclocking?

Your problem is your cooler, "Core2Duo E4300 @ 3.0, Zalman 7000B-AlCu". I had a Zalman 7000cu and gave it a shot, but that old technology was just not efficient at getting the heat away from a hot chip like a C2D. Get something better with heatpipes. We have the same chip, look at my sig.

Of course, you have to ask yourself if the price of a new cooler is worth 100mhz. IMHO, it's not.

Also, again E4300 owners, to the best of my knowlege, only the LATEST version of Core Temp is correctly reporting core temps. http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com/CoreTemp/

 

[Shampoo]

Hey guys.

Just wondering after seeing pictures of the review board, rev 1.01G, here on anandtech, if your CMOS chip is hard soldered onto the board or if it is indeed removable like most other motherboards.

Mine is a rev 1.01G like the one in the review, but is soldered onto the motherboard, not like the review board.

Maybe because anandtech got an engineering sample?

Strange. It'd have been nice if it was not soldered onto the board so if one killed the CMOS chip from a bad bios flash you could just hot flash it if one had the tool, as I do at work.

Cheers,
Mike

 

[dlxmax]

Originally posted by: Shampoo
Just wondering after seeing pictures of the review board, rev 1.01G, here on anandtech, if your CMOS chip is hard soldered onto the board or if it is indeed removable like most other motherboards

Mine's not socketed, and I don't believe anybody else's is socketed. But that shouldn't be much of a problem because of:

CrashFree BIOS 2
* Simple BIOS auto-recovery process
The CrashFree BIOS 2 feature now includes the BIOS auto-recovery function in a support CD. Users can reboot their system through the support CD when a bootable disk is not available and go through the simple BIOS auto-recovery process. ASUS motherboards now enable users to enjoy this protection feature without the need to pay for an optional ROM.

 

[CikaNovo]

Originally posted by: dlxmax

Your problem is your cooler, "Core2Duo E4300 @ 3.0, Zalman 7000B-AlCu". I had a Zalman 7000cu and gave it a shot, but that old technology was just not efficient at getting the heat away from a hot chip like a C2D. Get something better with heatpipes. We have the same chip, look at my sig.

Of course, you have to ask yourself if the price of a new cooler is worth 100mhz. IMHO, it's not.

Also, again E4300 owners, to the best of my knowlege, only the LATEST version of Core Temp is correctly reporting core temps. http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com/CoreTemp/
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I agree that 3 year old Zalman is not sufficient to cool core2duo,especialy when heavily overvolted and overclocked,and,yes, of course that additional 200-300 mhz is not worth 50 something $.The whole idea behind this build was not to spend fortune and still get a good computer,so it was decided that zalman stays(btw. I'm running zalman's fan at minimum rpm's).I see you have hr-05,has it improved your overclock?And about CPU temps and voltage,what temps you get with ninja(I assume it's cooled with only one 12 cm fan on max rpm) on your max oc,and at what voltage(cpu and nb voltage)?
As for coretemp 0.95,it crashes windows the moment I double click on its icon at desktop.Don't know why?That's why i use coretemp 0.94 beta,and as I understood that one is not showing correct temperature readings and neither does speedfan 4.32,right?Any other way to get PROPER temperature readings?

EDIT:Just figured it out,add 15 c to core 0 and core 1 temps,right?

 

[jfkon3]

Ok i have a problem with asus p5n-e sli mobo. If i install more than 1 stick of ram in the middle of loading xp or 1 sec into loading the login screen i get the blue screen of death. I want to install 1x1gig and 2x512 mb. if i install 1 stick it works. I have tested all of the ram on other computers and they work. the ram is ddr2 pc4200. Again please help.

 

[ArtfulCodger]

Ok, finally had a chance to fiddle with OCing a bit more and now have 2 x 1G G.skill modules that play the game..

So I've gone back to an 8x multiplier @ 420mhz fsb to get 3360 Orthos stable 15.297 Super Pi 1M...all with voltage set to auto....

vcore seems to be 1.213v according to CPU-Z and 1.5V for CPU core shown in PC Wizard 2007 voltages screen or 1.34V under the 'processor screen' in PC Wizard?????

Edit: oh and Speedfan reports Vcore 1 @ 1.5v Vcore 2 @ 3.36v (I haven't done all the config changes recommended on pge 92 yet for this)

Temps are 35 to 36C idle to around 60C in Orthos....

So is there any benefit to manually setting the voltages if I want to get to 3400 or higher?

also....stupid dum noob question...why doesn't changing the DDR rate from 800 in the BIOS actually change the FSB ie leave the QDR alone I changed the DDR rate to 820 and nothing changed so I assume we just change the QDR divided by 4 ie I'm at 420Mhz times 8 = 3360....see told you it was a dum question....

ooops or was I supposed to divide by 2 for DDR and still just enter 420?????

 

[NineInchNick]

Originally posted by: dlxmax

Also, again E4300 owners, to the best of my knowlege, only the LATEST version of Core Temp is correctly reporting core temps. http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com/CoreTemp/
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Please tell me that is not true. In that case my E4300 reaches 90 degrees in 30 seconds of orthos...

 

[imported_Zip]

me too! i thought my temps were safe, in probe they never go about 65 but they shoot straight past 90 in coretemp

 

[CikaNovo]

Originally posted by: NineInchNick

Originally posted by: dlxmax

Also, again E4300 owners, to the best of my knowlege, only the LATEST version of Core Temp is correctly reporting core temps. http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com/CoreTemp/

Please tell me that is not true. In that case my E4300 reaches 90 degrees in 30 seconds of orthos...[/quote]

Originally posted by: Zip
me too! i thought my temps were safe, in probe they never go about 65 but they shoot straight past 90 in coretemp

You two are being saved by thermal throttling.Download RM Clock Utility 2.2 http://cpu.rightmark.org/download.shtml, go to monitoring section and see for yourself.I just found out yesterday that my cpu is throttling.Basically,on stock cooling you're ok up to about 1.475 v(of course,it depends how good airflow is in your computer case).Anything above that,throtlling kicks in, saving your cpu.Hope this helps.

 

[imported_Zip]

thats what worries me. i use rmclock and after 2 mins of orthos it reads just under 90C but doesnt say there is any throttling at all. it stays firmly at my OC, i have c1e, eist and throttling enabled in the bios. surely that reading cant be right or my cpu would definately be throttled.

by the way, now im running 1.48v @ 3.3ghz

 

[CikaNovo]

Originally posted by: Zip
thats what worries me. i use rmclock and after 2 mins of orthos it reads just under 90C but doesnt say there is any throttling at all. it stays firmly at my OC, i have c1e, eist and throttling enabled in the bios. surely that reading cant be right or my cpu would definately be throttled.

by the way, now im running 1.48v @ 3.3ghz

If throttling occures than rm clock gives you warning in notification area and sound warning as well.If you're under 90 it's ok because it kicks in at about 95-98 C.

 

[SchoolBus]

has anyone tried OCZ2P8002GK Platinum XTC Edition memory with this board. As i already have my ram and need to find a board for it.

thanks

 

[eklock2000]

I used the search function on this thread and didn't find anything...although I'm sure it's been talked about.

It has been said that the passive cooling for this motherboard isn?t sufficient for any forays into overclocking land. That being said anyone care to chime in with suggestions/procedures for the types of active coolers to use and how to safely remove the passive cooling? Having never done this before (but I?ve read plenty), it seems that there are some plastic clips to ?break?/pinch and the whole setup comes off. Do the back of the chips need to be heated with say a hair dryer to loosen the thermal compound? All that being said, a few questions?

The southbridge seems to be located at the rear of the second PCIe slot. If you?re running SLI, what active cooling setup might work here?seems tight?

If you remove the cooling pipe setup, does that not leave the mosfets uncooled? Do they make aftermarket coolers for the mosfets? Or do you just rely on the CPU cooler to provide enough air flow to cool these?

Can you leave ?pieces? of the cooling pipe setup on the board? For instance, if you want to do active on the northbridge only, can you remove the pipes, cut out the northbridge and use thermal compound to reapply the mosfet and southbridge sections?

I know these are probably dumb questions but I?m hoping someone has done the ?trial & error? already for me. Any pics of your setups would probably help me tremendously.

Thanks,

EK2K

 

[nefariouscaine]

Originally posted by: eklock2000
I used the search function on this thread and didn't find anything...although I'm sure it's been talked about.

It has been said that the passive cooling for this motherboard isn?t sufficient for any forays into overclocking land. That being said anyone care to chime in with suggestions/procedures for the types of active coolers to use and how to safely remove the passive cooling? Having never done this before (but I?ve read plenty), it seems that there are some plastic clips to ?break?/pinch and the whole setup comes off. Do the back of the chips need to be heated with say a hair dryer to loosen the thermal compound? All that being said, a few questions?

The southbridge seems to be located at the rear of the second PCIe slot. If you?re running SLI, what active cooling setup might work here?seems tight?

If you remove the cooling pipe setup, does that not leave the mosfets uncooled? Do they make aftermarket coolers for the mosfets? Or do you just rely on the CPU cooler to provide enough air flow to cool these?

Can you leave ?pieces? of the cooling pipe setup on the board? For instance, if you want to do active on the northbridge only, can you remove the pipes, cut out the northbridge and use thermal compound to reapply the mosfet and southbridge sections?

I know these are probably dumb questions but I?m hoping someone has done the ?trial & error? already for me. Any pics of your setups would probably help me tremendously.

Thanks,

EK2K

You're talking about a cooling heat pipe set up on this board but there isn't one located on it - if you're talking about the 650 sli board with the heat pipe set up you're likely referring to the MSI Platinum board.
and as far as actively cooling the sb its all about how high the hsf is - i haven't done the research on that yet but i'm interested in it as well - the one made by vantec "should" work

 

[Tuvoc]

Can I ask a dumb question ?

What is the easy way to remove the battery on this board ? On every other board I've had, you just use a pen to press in a clip within the circular fitting, and the battery pops out. That procedure doesn't seem to work - I literally have to get underneath the battery and force it out, risking breaking the battery housing at the same time. Such that I won't remove it ever again, unless someone lets me know any special trick with it...

 

[nefariouscaine]

Originally posted by: Tuvoc
Can I ask a dumb question ?

What is the easy way to remove the battery on this board ? On every other board I've had, you just use a pen to press in a clip within the circular fitting, and the battery pops out. That procedure doesn't seem to work - I literally have to get underneath the battery and force it out, risking breaking the battery housing at the same time. Such that I won't remove it ever again, unless someone lets me know any special trick with it...

i think you got one that was messed up some how - i didn't have any problems with mine like that - i've had the battery out since pulling out - but i've saved my profiles which works fine

 

[darkshippo]

Schoolbus: As far as I know. All modules that OCZ has @ Pc6400 speed are based on Promos chips. I have the OCZ XTX Gold PC6400 1 GB modules. No problems so far.

 

[Santyclaws]

Got my rig up and running now. Temps seem a little high but I'll wait a few days before trying to reset the Heatsink fan assm. Core Temp reports 60C under full load, while Speedfan 4.32 reports the cores at 45C. Everything else seems ok at the moment. I'm running it stock for a few days running 2 instances of Folding @ Home. ( I already ran 24 hrs of memtest86+no errors and 12 hours of Orthos and I'm stable.)

When booting and it's running it's memory check I do notice that it ends with 2096128K OK installed memory 2097152K. If the memory checked ok, is there a problem with the Mobo? It seems like it's missing 1024K of memory somewhere. I'm still running the 0202 BIOS for now. Otherwise I have found no problems with this system yet.(knock on wood) Hopefully starting next week, I'll upgrade the BIOS to 0404 and start some Overclocking..

 

[CikaNovo]

Originally posted by: Santyclaws
Got my rig up and running now. Temps seem a little high but I'll wait a few days before trying to reset the Heatsink fan assm. Core Temp reports 60C under full load, while Speedfan 4.32 reports the cores at 45C. Everything else seems ok at the moment. I'm running it stock for a few days running 2 instances of Folding @ Home. ( I already ran 24 hrs of memtest86+no errors and 12 hours of Orthos and I'm stable.)

When booting and it's running it's memory check I do notice that it ends with 2096128K OK installed memory 2097152K. If the memory checked ok, is there a problem with the Mobo? It seems like it's missing 1024K of memory somewhere. I'm still running the 0202 BIOS for now. Otherwise I have found no problems with this system yet.(knock on wood) Hopefully starting next week, I'll upgrade the BIOS to 0404 and start some Overclocking..

45C Core Temps in Speedfan at full load?Those are good temps.At what room temp is that?